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theassassin
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Originally posted by Firenze
Heavyweight
This player is hard to block. Each level of Heavyweight gives a +2% bonus to knocking down his blocker when breaking a block.


Problem with this VA is that if you're not shedding/breaking blocks...you won't get a bonus.

Plus, it's only a 30% to knocking down the other guy...we have no idea what our original knockdown chance is...and how the 30% will add on.


+1 excellent post
 
dewatson12
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Even if it is nerfed, it is still better than workout warrior now...

And I think that Bort nerfed the D Lines speed at which they shed blocks

Across the whole line in this last game, my teams D linemen were just a tad slower than before. The DEs who got faster and more agile, looked slower than last year

Part of the problems with DTs is that I believe they have been nerfed
 
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Bort is also looking into an issue with D-Linemen not engaging with O-Linemen so heavyweight won't have a chance to kick in in thse situations.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2507622

Would be nice if that gets resolved.
 
Kayoh
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I <3 Heavyweight
 
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Originally posted by Kayoh
I <3 Heavyweight


 
Rage Kinard
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Heavyweight is great when you already have a significant advantage over your opponent.
 
quidjibo
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what if you already knock the Olineguy down after you shed a block w/o using Heavyweight?
my DT does that a lot
would using Heavyweight benefit him much more?
Last edited Apr 19, 2009 20:13:47
 
pottsman
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Originally posted by quidjibo
what if you already knock the Olineguy down after you shed a block w/o using Heavyweight?
my DT does that a lot
would using Heavyweight benefit him much more?


Yes. About 30% more.
 
Rage Kinard
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Originally posted by pottsman
Originally posted by quidjibo

what if you already knock the Olineguy down after you shed a block w/o using Heavyweight?
my DT does that a lot
would using Heavyweight benefit him much more?


Yes. About 30% more.



Originally posted by = Rage Kinard

Heavyweight is great when you already have a significant advantage over your opponent.

 
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Originally posted by pottsman
Originally posted by quidjibo

what if you already knock the Olineguy down after you shed a block w/o using Heavyweight?
my DT does that a lot
would using Heavyweight benefit him much more?


Yes. About 30% more.


lol
 
dewatson12
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Heavyweight is awesome

My DT's best game ever today

2 sacks and 2 hurries against high lvl 30's O linemen with my lvl 30 DT.

Outleveled by 8 by the LG who has 80+ STR/BLK with 50+ AGL

I really just bulled him over several times and knocked him down (I think)...I think that was heavyweight working
examples (I'm at DT) :
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=551603&pbp_id=1421337 (hurry, watch the LG/C try to block)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=551603&pbp_id=1426166 (hurry, http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=389873 - the center i killed)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=551603&pbp_id=1425766 (sack, I think that was agility)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=551603&pbp_id=1426262 (sack, str + agility i think)

awesome game that I think can show that heavyweight kinda does work
 
Rage Kinard
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Originally posted by dewatson12
Heavyweight is awesome

My DT's best game ever today

2 sacks and 2 hurries against high lvl 30's O linemen with my lvl 30 DT.

Outleveled by 8 by the LG who has 80+ STR/BLK with 50+ AGL

I really just bulled him over several times and knocked him down (I think)...I think that was heavyweight working
examples (I'm at DT) :
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=551603&pbp_id=1421337 (hurry, watch the LG/C try to block)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=551603&pbp_id=1426166 (hurry, http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=389873 - the center i killed)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=551603&pbp_id=1425766 (sack, I think that was agility)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=551603&pbp_id=1426262 (sack, str + agility i think)

awesome game that I think can show that heavyweight kinda does work


http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=782661
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=389873

Both are low agility/speed OL. Plus, it happened way late into the play. Good coverage, and a QB probably set to aggressive throw away.
 
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Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Originally posted by dewatson12

Heavyweight is awesome

My DT's best game ever today

2 sacks and 2 hurries against high lvl 30's O linemen with my lvl 30 DT.

Outleveled by 8 by the LG who has 80+ STR/BLK with 50+ AGL

I really just bulled him over several times and knocked him down (I think)...I think that was heavyweight working
examples (I'm at DT) :
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=551603&pbp_id=1421337 (hurry, watch the LG/C try to block)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=551603&pbp_id=1426166 (hurry, http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=389873 - the center i killed)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=551603&pbp_id=1425766 (sack, I think that was agility)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=551603&pbp_id=1426262 (sack, str + agility i think)

awesome game that I think can show that heavyweight kinda does work


http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=782661
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=389873

Both are low agility/speed OL. Plus, it happened way late into the play. Good coverage, and a QB probably set to aggressive throw away.


So what does speed/agility have to do with being pushed over?
 
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