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Jah King
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Recently I have been thinking and thinking on how to build my future LILB for a strictly 3-4 scheme where ill be taking on a guard on almost every run play. I will be getting help with a pure NT and Containment LDE but check out an idea I have for a level 16 LILB.

Im giving rough estimates and not including level gains with a super slow build player. I know almost every experienced GLB says don't worry that much about strength for LB because it's a waste but Going by the book isnt exciting so give good thought to this approach.

Level 16 LILB(Natural NO EQ):

Strength 63
Speed 48
Agility 61

Level 16 LILB(12 EQ + 6 Custom = 18)


Strength 63
Speed 66(48 Natural)
Agility 61

I think it looks interesting and think it is a unique style of build for a LILB but If I was going strictly Strength and Agility is it better just to keep speed to 48 and add all the equipment between strength and agility


 
Rashida
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Part of it depends on what your immediate plans for strength are. Another consideration is how long you plan on being on a team with a 3-4. If it's your own team, that's one thing, but if you're playing on someone else's team, you can never be sure where you'll end up in future seasons.

Personally, if I were you, I'd take speed to at LEAST 68 natural anyway in the long run, regardless of LB position. I do think you're right though in putting the EQ into speed. All the strength and agility in the world does nothing if your speed isn't high enough to actually get to the RB or get a significant run blitz.
 
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If I was intending to build an ILB for the 3-4 I'd probably cap strength and agility before speed, and leave speed at 61. I'd look for around 80 strength and agility around the late 30s and probably end up trying shed block. You may be best off finding shed block AEQ and not taking it past 4 natural. Then 4 in monster hit and some high number in DLG eventually. With strength and agility around 68-70 and an even split in eq you'd have 80-85 str/agi and you could tinker somewhat to get the best results by maybe switching one piece of eq around. The trouble may be getting vision, jumping, and tackling high enough though.
 
Jah King
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Originally posted by Rashida
Part of it depends on what your immediate plans for strength are. Another consideration is how long you plan on being on a team with a 3-4. If it's your own team, that's one thing, but if you're playing on someone else's team, you can never be sure where you'll end up in future seasons.

Personally, if I were you, I'd take speed to at LEAST 68 natural anyway in the long run, regardless of LB position. I do think you're right though in putting the EQ into speed. All the strength and agility in the world does nothing if your speed isn't high enough to actually get to the RB or get a significant run blitz.


Well yea I will be getting a team and my main reason is to go strictly 3-4 and have fast linebackers around my LILB along with strong linemen to take on blocks to free up my ILB on running plays.

With more power backs coming out I believe my ILB will sure up the middle and as being the DC I will be making sure the OLB's and RILB will be guarding the outside rush. In a 3-4 you need to rely on other teammates to be more effective.

 
Anebriated
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I went with something similar with my LB. He did pretty well as the MLB in a 4-3. Heres his stats at 23

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1081502&playoffs=0

Physical Attributes
Strength: 68.11(65.11)
Speed: 51.38
Agility: 70.11(61.11)
Jumping: 16.38
Stamina: 28.11
Vision: 21.11
Confidence: 19.11

Football Skills
Blocking: 15.38
Catching: 15.38
Tackling: 32.11
 
Blamo
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I would much rather build him around moar agility than have strength that high. Something ridiculous like the 78 cap in agility, 40/60 strength (that's up to you), and still at least 60 speed. But instead of putting all of the equipment into speed, I'd put half into speed and half into agility. Basically build him like a pass rushing DT from a few seasons ago.
 
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Your going to need more speed imo. Otherwise pursuit will be to slow on screens and pitches
 
Jah King
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Wow finally we have great replies to a thread instead of quick sarcastic remarks...lol

Also thanks for showing your build Anbriated

Blamo: I am going for a pass rushing DT build for my LILB. The only true problem I see with my build idea is that I would have to work on tackling or vision eventually and I hope that doesn't hurt my build. I do plan on capping speed at 60 after i get both strength and agility 2nd capped.

I will be in cap leagues for the most part so I believe a more balanced build would best suit my Linebacker and because of my position i would need strength to take on the guard without being pancaked
 
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NP, I think we are along the same line of thinking with our builds. Its like having another DT behind the DTs...

Imo hold off on tackling/vision until you have your str/agi/spd where you want them, for me its 68/68/61, i just started training tackling up as I put SPs into the main stats.
 
Jah King
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Originally posted by Anebriated
NP, I think we are along the same line of thinking with our builds. Its like having another DT behind the DTs...

Imo hold off on tackling/vision until you have your str/agi/spd where you want them, for me its 68/68/61, i just started training tackling up as I put SPs into the main stats.


Just like I was planning and after I get the speed to 60 that's where I wonder to go vision or tackling.

I plan on being the DC of the team so I can make sure he will be very effective in my scheme. For the most part its going to be a run focus defense and I'll be sending my LILB on blitzes to crash the line of scrimmage. In a 3-4 it's not a blitz but ill still be sending him. I will have him in on every two wide receiver sets.

I know ill be lacking some pass coverage abilities with lesser speed but I truly believe 3-4's are best against outside runs and I can sure up the middle with my strong ILB.
 
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You might think we lack coverage skills with the build but its actually pretty solid. Even with almost no vision I dont have many issues dropping into coverage. Just FYI I plan on going tackling first, get it to 48 and then do the same with vision. Ill see how it does but im mainly going tackle first to increase the range he can make tackles in.
 
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here are my ILB builds in progress. Going two different directions with them and we'll see how it goes. They're both experimental and definitely not going with the current thought processes or plans on ILB builds. These are for 3-4 BTW.

Trail of Fire
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1330593
went with 2capping vision first. then going agility -> speed -> tackling -> strength

Heaven Alive
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1330601
went with 2capping agility first then going vision -> speed -> tackling -> strength maybe... or maybe I'll see what is really better between tackling and strength and just ignore strength and go jumping perhaps?

I'm actually building a 3-4 defense that'll work together so these builds are meant to work in conjunction with one another... so look at them THAT way...

also building a blitzing ROLB and a CB clone LOLB. But those are still huge question marks right now.

Last edited Apr 3, 2009 12:10:12
 
Jah King
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Misled I appreciate getting a look at the builds and there both interesting.

I like how trail of fire is looking early with how he sees the plays early on.

Heaven is more intriguing seeing how agility and vision go hand in hand by getting a jump early on snaps

I do believe ILB's need some strength early on but vision is also helpful it seems with Trail
 
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Sure, no problem. They're going to remain open probably until they either join a slow build team that asks for such or probably lvl 30 or so. As most of these guys won't start reaching their potential until then.
 


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