Warrior General Games

After watching 13 games this season here are some selected highlights and my comments on my build, both good and bad. He was run on 100, 100% of the time. I have come to the conclusion by watching my build that there are three main problems which has hampered the effectiveness of the Super Elusive build. I posted these at the bottom of the post.

MY build
Physical Attributes
Strength: 34.17
Speed: 94.39
Agility: 74.22
Jumping: 34.7
Stamina: 40.43
Vision: 54.31
Confidence: 41.11

Football Skills
Blocking: 16.7
Catching: 35.71
Tackling: 7
Throwing: 16.7
Carrying: 50.38
Kicking: 8
Punting: 7

Special Abilities
Elusive Back Abilities
Quick Cut: 10
Head Fake: 5
First Step: 6
Juke: 6
Spin: 3

Power Back Abilities
Cover Up: 2
Lower the Shoulder: 0
Stiff Arm: 0
Power Through: 0
Dive for Yardage: 0

Veteran Abilities
Quick: 15
Track Star: 15
Quick Feet: 2

Game 1- http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=389494

I am happy it was implemented but there are some obvious problems...here are some cool looking plays but my hb seems to be running slow as hell for 100+ speed and 70+ agi. stat padding game so do not expect much out of the defense

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389494&pbp_id=1798974 (funny)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389494&pbp_id=1801266 ( wtf? he is terrified)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389494&pbp_id=1804341 (common problem... )
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389494&pbp_id=1809130 (is he drunk, can he not run in a straight line)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389494&pbp_id=1811765 (the one time he wants to make contact)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389494&pbp_id=1813013 (beats the guy then runs out of bounds)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389494&pbp_id=1813856 (good looking play but not running with 100+ speed)

my conclusion is that super elusive is fun to watch and probably is good for some builds but it just seems like to me that I am missing about 15 speed.

Game 2- http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=389314

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389314&pbp_id=2714264 (avoiding the edge)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389314&pbp_id=2714362 (same problem as the week before
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389314&pbp_id=2717186 (more of the same)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389314&pbp_id=2718886 (spin with more of that cut back)

conclusions- pitches are not working well with levi

Game 3- http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=389315

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389315&pbp_id=3655791 (bowed out run again)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389315&pbp_id=3664168 (straight outa bounds)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389315&pbp_id=3664549 (bowed/ run straight out of bounds)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389315&pbp_id=3668090 (ok cuts)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389315&pbp_id=3679471 (still do not know why I do this)

pitches are still killing his running game

Game 4- http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=389316

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=389316- good qb draw
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389316&pbp_id=4592012- quick out of the back Field
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389316&pbp_id=4592978- defense is just too fast to break the edge
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389316&pbp_id=4595410- cuts inside the line interior seem to be working but lacking burst afterword
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389316&pbp_id=4595710- out of the back field
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389316&pbp_id=4597811- cuts look good to get first down
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389316&pbp_id=4598136- picking apart holes but cannot seem to break the long one
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389316&pbp_id=4598377- finally worked his way for a 10+ touch

conclusions- Well built players are not being confused by the fakes. I need to up Levis speed in order to counter LBs that are overly fast.

game 6- http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=389317&mode=pbp

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389317&pbp_id=7397414 still bowing out
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389317&pbp_id=7397504 pathing seems to be good, no hesitation
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389317&pbp_id=7403858 seems to finally be cutting up without much hesitation

conclusion- looked good and in my opinion it appears updates may have been made on pathing

game 7- http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=389318&mode=pbp

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389318&pbp_id=8324514 cuts with head fake?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389318&pbp_id=8328828 what else are these games for?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389318&pbp_id=8332008 is this a vision check? One of the best cutbacks
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389318&pbp_id=8333019 good cuts in the interior
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389318&pbp_id=8337368 broken ankles and gone
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389318&pbp_id=8343352 no idea whats happening here?

conclusion- any back looks good in blowout games... but there were some strange plays in this game.


Game 8- http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=389319

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389319&pbp_id=9258271 cuts continue to look good
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389319&pbp_id=9259944 corners making good reads
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389319&pbp_id=9260126 Linebackers and safties knew where i was goin
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389319&pbp_id=9261336 quick cut and head fake gained 2 yards?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389319&pbp_id=9261570 too much hesitation
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389319&pbp_id=9262563 one of the better runs this game
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389319&pbp_id=9263803 very good run with many cuts
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389319&pbp_id=9267007 another good run with many cross ups

conclusion- against a team we beat easily only significant gains were performed in clean up time... not too impressive but looked fair overall

Game 9 - http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=389320&mode=pbp

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389320&pbp_id=10207043- despite the ever growing fb blocking problems my build is able to stay behind him
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389320&pbp_id=10208551- Speed linebackers are still way too overpowered against elusive backs
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389320&pbp_id=10212173- it is called super elusive but the running out of bounds on third and short, should and needs to stop.

conclusion- speed linebackers still reign over super elusive backs. Even on good blocking super elusive faults create stupid scenarios such as the one above.

Game 10- http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=389321

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389321&pbp_id=11133968- SS is either head faked or something but catches on too quickly
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389321&pbp_id=11134001- fullback pathing continues to be a major problem for backs who cannot break tackles
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389321&pbp_id=11135440- good looking 10 yard td run where the olb sits down
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389321&pbp_id=11136155- draw play looks too much like a pinball machine
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389321&pbp_id=11136838- with blocking like this my build might as well be a slow moving hb because his cuts are doing very little
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389321&pbp_id=11138610- the hesitation here should be longer. Both defenders should have a longer delay.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389321&pbp_id=11139817- as above significant longer time needs to be applied when falling down. Also a large reduction in speed.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389321&pbp_id=11142454- an instance where super elusive looks good
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389321&pbp_id=11144824- something is at work here, the FS barely reacted, not sure what though.

conclusions- not a blowout game but close enough. When quick cut and juke activate the results are too minuscule. The lag time needs to be enhanced as well as significant speed needs to be lost.

Game 11- http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=389259

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389259&pbp_id=12072984- rolb making a tackle after falling down?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389259&pbp_id=12075538- classic run out of bounds
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389259&pbp_id=12077503- unnoticed missed tackle?

conclusion- fast defenses swarmed my build

Game 12- http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=389301&mode=pbp

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389301&pbp_id=13008387- ran out way to quickly
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389301&pbp_id=13011528- pulsing of cb? he should either be up or down, not doing updowns
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389301&pbp_id=13016016- coming in and out of cuts seems to be taking forever

conclusion- blow out games do not provide much on defensive analysis but it still shows whats wrong offensively

Game 13- http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=389276&mode=pbp

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389276&pbp_id=13953741- if the cb falls, chances of breaking that tackle should skyrocket
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389276&pbp_id=13954222- still doesnt know where the sideline is
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389276&pbp_id=13959220- wow he must have stuck the ball out
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389276&pbp_id=13959397- ..............
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389276&pbp_id=13961505- why right out of bounds when we are winning the game instead of coming back inside?

Game 14- http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=389322

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389322&pbp_id=14853094- as in the week before, the SS should have a longer lag time
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389322&pbp_id=14855175- why are the FS and MLB blinking? if they are falling down why are they not loosing speed
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389322&pbp_id=14858509- again, reaction time by the SS is too quick

conclusion- until the reaction time for defenders is lessened super elusive will never be truly effective



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After watching a whole season running on complete super elusive the entire time I have come to the conclusion that there are three main problems with Super Elusive
1. Running out of bounds when extra yards can be gained
2. Running away from contact before LOS is crossed, seen in the many bowed out runs.
3. Defenders recover way too quickly when they are faked. In order to make elusive backs effective, more lag time needs to be applied to defenders when they are faked. Also a reduction in their speed is necessary.

He was run on -100? You're aware super elusive is 100 and fully power is -100 right?

Originally posted by Mysterio
He was run on -100? You're aware super elusive is 100 and fully power is -100 right?

yea typo, he was on super elusive the whole time

What's his vision if you don't mind me asking? First capped vision might not be enough to keep from going out of bounds. Also could be a confidence issue. That would take care of 1 and 2. I agree with you on 3 though. I wonder if it's a vison check sort of thing. Most LB's and people in the secondary have good vision.

posted my build

Your build looks very similar to my lvl 37. Especially for the speed/agility/vision. I've been running on super elusive all season, but sadly don't get many carries. I've seen some signs of greatness and other signs like you've shown where he just runs out of bounds. When I boost him next season I'm trying to figure out if I should go more speed or pump vision.

Thank you for taking the time to not only document your research, but for sharing it.

i have had problems running out of bounds even while not on SE sadly

running out of bounds happens no matter what setting you're on. i've been messing with my running settings all season on a handful of players and they keep running out of bounds when defenders are > 5 yds away

yea this is it

Great post.

Thanks for sharing your analysis

Bort stated somewhere that you need at least 60 vision for Super Elusive to work properly... i would recommend getting that to about 70, then you will see some serious gains

hes actually looking for a team right now