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Anarcho
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He is my hybrid DE/OLB. I can't seem to get him to perform the way I want him to. He always takes forever to get off the snap. I've changed his EQ around and I haven't seen any change.

I've tried another DE at ROLB and he did much better. The other DE has 6 levels on my player, but their Vision and First Step are the same. The other DE gets off the snap very quickly and actually looks like a ROLB. My player looks like you could have put a DT there.

Any advice from a LB standpoint?

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 60.61
Speed: 98.61
Agility: 70.66
Jumping: 35.38
Stamina: 38.3
Vision: 44.66
Confidence: 36.51

Football Skills
Blocking: 16.59
Catching: 8
Tackling: 45.68
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Containment Abilities
Swat Ball: 0
Wall: 0
Strong Base: 0
Diving Tackle: 0
Monster Hit: 0

Pass Rusher Abilities
First Step: 7
Change Direction: 4
Shed Blocks: 7
Tunnel Vision: 8
Big Sack: 1

Veteran Abilities
Quick: 15
Track Star: 5
 
ahnonamis
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What's the agility/speed of the other guy?
 
Anarcho
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88/82.

I've moved my equipment around to get my guy to 87/82, but it's still the same result.

Granted, the other guy has significantly more VAs than I do (all in Speed/Agility), but does Speed/Agility have that big of an impact on your ability to jump the snap? I know it impacts how quickly you move, but would it really impact how many ticks it takes to start moving?
 
jason_s122
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Maybe find something with a "First Step" SA. Since thats not a LB SA then that can be wasteful.
 
Anarcho
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Originally posted by jason_s122
Maybe find something with a "First Step" SA. Since thats not a LB SA then that can be wasteful.


I'm not sure I'm getting your point.

 
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Originally posted by jason_s122
Maybe find something with a "First Step" SA. Since thats not a LB SA then that can be wasteful.



I just got a piece of first step SA gear on my LB. He's more of a coverage LB than a blitzing LB, but I don't think of it as a waste.
 
BSUblemler
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what about vision? Won't softcapping it help?
 
Anarcho
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Originally posted by BSUblemler
what about vision? Won't softcapping it help?


Yeah, I'm working on it. But I still have better vision than the other DE who does pretty well at ROLB.
 
kipperkalle
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dunno. My LB is somewhat similar to yours speed and agility wise, but has more vision (63+) and it's not like he gets going that much faster compared to when his vision was 48
 
Jazzpelli
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Originally posted by BSUblemler
what about vision? Won't softcapping it help?


If he's taking forever to get off the snap, you seeing that he is failing the vision check. Need to get vision much higher. Soft cap minimum.
 
UMRocks
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vision! love the build otherwise, but get vision to 60 - you need more vis at LB than on the D-Line. it helps for much more than the vision check as a LBer
 
hee163
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Originally posted by Jazzpelli
Originally posted by BSUblemler

what about vision? Won't softcapping it help?


If he's taking forever to get off the snap, you seeing that he is failing the vision check. Need to get vision much higher. Soft cap minimum.


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Originally posted by UMRocks
vision! love the build otherwise, but get vision to 60 - you need more vis at LB than on the D-Line. it helps for much more than the vision check as a LBer


Yes
 
Viscount
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I wouldn't bother with a "Tweener" in GLB especially with the out of position penalty.
 
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Originally posted by Viscount
I wouldn't bother with a "Tweener" in GLB especially with the out of position penalty.


Yeah, otherwise your DE playing LB couldn't amass attributes that high so soon. The ancillary categories needed for a quality OLB aren't developed and the overinflated DE incremental gains are at least offset by the oop penalty.

If you find a way to carve a niche and make it work, then by all means keep trying. You might stumble onto a particular exploit in some play or coverage/player assignment.
 
Anarcho
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Originally posted by Viscount
I wouldn't bother with a "Tweener" in GLB especially with the out of position penalty.


Considering that Bort said there is next to no OOP for DE to OLB, I figured I'd give it a try.
 


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