Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Marioman9

Look at the games where the stats come from.. Blowing out a team can definitely lead to increased stats, and that is the case there. You are not a shutdown corner if you are thrown to that many times to begin with. Who knows though, I haven't watched the replays, maybe quite a few tackles are on the run game, or Special Teams. Regardless, there is not much of an argument.

A couple of points:

- The QB is going to throw it to someone 95% of the time, so even if coverage is absolutely perfect, a CB might get thrown on as long as the rest of the secondary is also locked on their guy. This is especially true since QBs make vision checks to "see" a WR, and if they fail decrease their options even more, no matter how wide open the missed guy is.

- A PD or INT is clearly a superior result for the team than not being targetted at all, since not being targetted just means the pass went to someone else, potentially for a completion.

- The team that latter corner was on didn't play a close game all season, so its hard to discard the stats entirely. It's not like he performed poorly against equal talent -- it's that there was no such talent in that expansion league.

Originally posted by kostitsyn
I kinda understand how it works and i like the champ bailey comparison, but as every season ends seeing the rankings and all it's kinda annoying never even be close to be in it. For trophy I understand you dont get stats you casnt get trophy, but where's the recognition? In CPL Final 1 PD that's it.

I think it was back in season 2, There was one guy with 150 tackles 100 PD and 10 INT. That's like my career stats/2.

When I see players with 95 PD I really wonder how they do it...

I have a guy on defense who had 99 PDs. Our run defense is so good that teams pass a lot on us. He gets put on their top WR so it can happen. One funny thing is that our offense is potent and average numbers of plays is around 60 for all the defensive players.

Their are a lot of things that factor into the stats. Believe me, I love seeing my CB gets stats. In his best game, he had 3 INTs (with 1 INT TD returns) and 7 PDs. Great game right, but the WR who he was matched up against had 10 catches for 113 yards and 1 TD.

Did a poll and it was about 50/50 who had the better game and alot of agents who I personally knew and respected their opinions thought that the WR had the better day.

Originally posted by Sarg01
Originally posted by Marioman9


Look at the games where the stats come from.. Blowing out a team can definitely lead to increased stats, and that is the case there. You are not a shutdown corner if you are thrown to that many times to begin with. Who knows though, I haven't watched the replays, maybe quite a few tackles are on the run game, or Special Teams. Regardless, there is not much of an argument.

A couple of points:

- The QB is going to throw it to someone 95% of the time, so even if coverage is absolutely perfect, a CB might get thrown on as long as the rest of the secondary is also locked on their guy. This is especially true since QBs make vision checks to "see" a WR, and if they fail decrease their options even more, no matter how wide open the missed guy is.

- A PD or INT is clearly a superior result for the team than not being targetted at all, since not being targetted just means the pass went to someone else, potentially for a completion.

- The team that latter corner was on didn't play a close game all season, so its hard to discard the stats entirely. It's not like he performed poorly against equal talent -- it's that there was no such talent in that expansion league.

I can't argue with either of those first 2 points, as you are right on with those. That probably means that the rest of the secondary is just as good, I would think, so that is a plus to the team and player. And I was actually referring mainly towards the second guy, as the first guy does have some pretty good numbers in some close games/losses.

From what I have seen with my guy getting thrown at usually depends on:

- Is he in single coverage or does he have help?
- Who are the other CBs on the field?
- Coverage style (though it seemed to matter less last year)

I typically base how well my guys play on:

- 3rd Down Stops (PD, Int, tackle short of 1st down)
- Amount of plays where they are completely beat (I don't feel too bad if my dot is right on top of the WR and he still makes the catch)