Warrior General Games

Originally posted by kingofgod
Build is open.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=596110

Field General AEQ must be pretty sweet to have.

Originally posted by Viscount
Hey kingofgod has your QB's strength been 87 all season or did you move some equipment mid-season? I remember last season your QB's strength was at about 69.

I switched my Equipment after the first regular game of the season. He blew it. Then I was reading a thread on the main forums saying they wished a QB would try putting all his equipment onto strength to see how it did so I tried it in a scrimmage and he did pretty good so I kept it.

Originally posted by Sharrow
Originally posted by Mstr_October

Can anyone explain the reason the HB is over looked on this play? Now granted, the HB had been targeted quite a bit on this play during the course of the game, but I am just wondering what goes into 'target progression'. It would be different if the HB wasn't the designed target for this play, but as we all know, he is. Was he ever covered?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=378617&pbp_id=8629057

His vision is not 90, but is over 70 and I would tend to believe that even 48 vision 'should' be able to see this man.

Meh, Loldots I guess.

QB's run a vision check roll to see each of their reads; if they fail the check then the receiver goes completely unnoticed. I have no idea how a QB could miss seeing their 1st read though, that wouldn't make any sense.

It happens all the time on the HB streak play. I dont know why. My guess would be that the vision check happens when the HB is going through the line of scrimmage so he is registered as covered since there are defenders around him. That is the only reason I can think of though.

And yes, the Field Gen AE is quiet nice, especially since it came with a little +1 strength

Originally posted by mgbl3
Originally posted by kingofgod


Its the only thing we have to compare though.

I ran the game scout script which shows the amount of Pds a qb has and divided by how many attempts we had.

Also, I wasnt doing this to prove my Qb is better then yours. I am trying to prove that strength is more important then vision.


I agree it's more important than vision. I'm just not convinced it's more important than throwing.

It not that much more important then throwing. The gap i have on my Qb is too much but I dont want to sacrifice the strength to get throwing higher. My ideal Qb would be 95 strength 85 throwing 70 vision. I think that would be unstoppable, maybe more vision, but that depends on Borts new update he is going to put in.

So my ranking would be
Strength>Throwing>>Vision>Confidence

It really depends one what type of QB you are building/offense you are running.

Originally posted by Sharrow
I also don't think you guys are adding much comparing two QB's stats. Someone said that "that's the only way we can compare them"; well just because that's the only way you can compare them doesn't mean it's a quality comparison. You can compare the size of the moon and the size of your ass, but what's the point? There are just way too many variables to make one single comparison between two quarterbacks any kind of a reliable method to determine anything. Tactics, receiver quality, pocket protection, pass defense quality, etc. and the list goes on. I don't think you can even begin to compare QB stats unless they are in the same league and in the same conference and even then it's not reliable.



One produces in a much tougher league, being outleveled by up to 10 levels a game, the other is mediocre in a league where his team outlevels the competition. You be the judge of talent on that one.

Originally posted by ImTheScientist
It really depends one what type of QB you are building/offense you are running.

A good one..

Originally posted by Cadillac2106
Originally posted by Sharrow

I also don't think you guys are adding much comparing two QB's stats. Someone said that "that's the only way we can compare them"; well just because that's the only way you can compare them doesn't mean it's a quality comparison. You can compare the size of the moon and the size of your ass, but what's the point? There are just way too many variables to make one single comparison between two quarterbacks any kind of a reliable method to determine anything. Tactics, receiver quality, pocket protection, pass defense quality, etc. and the list goes on. I don't think you can even begin to compare QB stats unless they are in the same league and in the same conference and even then it's not reliable.



One produces in a much tougher league, being outleveled by up to 10 levels a game, the other is mediocre in a league where his team outlevels the competition. You be the judge of talent on that one.

levels aren't a good indicator of player quality.

Originally posted by mueller
Originally posted by Cadillac2106

Originally posted by Sharrow


I also don't think you guys are adding much comparing two QB's stats. Someone said that "that's the only way we can compare them"; well just because that's the only way you can compare them doesn't mean it's a quality comparison. You can compare the size of the moon and the size of your ass, but what's the point? There are just way too many variables to make one single comparison between two quarterbacks any kind of a reliable method to determine anything. Tactics, receiver quality, pocket protection, pass defense quality, etc. and the list goes on. I don't think you can even begin to compare QB stats unless they are in the same league and in the same conference and even then it's not reliable.



One produces in a much tougher league, being outleveled by up to 10 levels a game, the other is mediocre in a league where his team outlevels the competition. You be the judge of talent on that one.

levels aren't a good indicator of player quality.

When those levels are on a top AAA from an owner who knows what they're doing it's a decent indicator. Not great I know, but with vet points a ton a crap builds are easily salvaged

Does anyone have any solid evidence that having 90 vision is better than having 49? I'm not saying there isn't a difference, I would just like to see some proof that spending all those points on vision is worth it.

This is aside from the changes that Bort will be making to the leading code requiring more vision, as I realize that sounds like it will make vision a lot more valuable. I am wondering about right now, before those changes go in.

Here's another question, does having a high strength on your QB (80+ like Sean has) lead to fewer sacks? Do the low strength, high spd/agi DEs have more trouble sacking you? Is it possible to pancake them?

Originally posted by GameDCoder
Does anyone have any solid evidence that having 90 vision is better than having 49? I'm not saying there isn't a difference, I would just like to see some proof that spending all those points on vision is worth it.

This is aside from the changes that Bort will be making to the leading code requiring more vision, as I realize that sounds like it will make vision a lot more valuable. I am wondering about right now, before those changes go in.

Here's another question, does having a high strength on your QB (80+ like Sean has) lead to fewer sacks? Do the low strength, high spd/agi DEs have more trouble sacking you? Is it possible to pancake them?


I havent notice him break any tackles in the pocket. He does get pancakes every once in awhile. He has nine so far this season

I bet if I pumped turn shoulder some he would be very hard to sack, but as of now I plan on leaving it at 2