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Forum > Position Talk > Safety Club > So... Is soft capping strength getting anymore popular these days for SS?
mogs01gt
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by mogs01gt
SS need to tackle, PD's mean nothing as an SS since that is not their primary role. If the teams DC wants them to play the FS role, that if fine but that is not the norm for other teams.
you are the dumbest person on here if you truly believe this. P.D.'s mean everything for a s.s.
I guess S.S's aren't suppose to force fumbles, get defensive touchdowns, or safeties either right? Stats which I have more of than you as well. He has more TFL this season, than you have for a career. HAHAH your S.S. pretty much sucks.
My SS blows yours away on every aspect. I have almost always played against characters 5+ levels higher every season. Of course anyone can pad stats and play against lower lever players like you have been. Look at the league your SS plays in, its not even competitive. Fame is a direct reflection on the leagues you have played in. Its of hard to get TFL when the DC doesnt have the SS play that role.
Yes, PD mean nothing on an SS. Im the retarded, ok. So since I believe tackling is important on an SS, I think FF arent important in your mind? Arent FF's apart of tackling?? LOL
I've read a lot of your posts, you really need banned from the forums. You never have anything helpful to say other than flaming individuals.
Originally posted by mogs01gt
SS need to tackle, PD's mean nothing as an SS since that is not their primary role. If the teams DC wants them to play the FS role, that if fine but that is not the norm for other teams.
you are the dumbest person on here if you truly believe this. P.D.'s mean everything for a s.s.
I guess S.S's aren't suppose to force fumbles, get defensive touchdowns, or safeties either right? Stats which I have more of than you as well. He has more TFL this season, than you have for a career. HAHAH your S.S. pretty much sucks.
My SS blows yours away on every aspect. I have almost always played against characters 5+ levels higher every season. Of course anyone can pad stats and play against lower lever players like you have been. Look at the league your SS plays in, its not even competitive. Fame is a direct reflection on the leagues you have played in. Its of hard to get TFL when the DC doesnt have the SS play that role.
Yes, PD mean nothing on an SS. Im the retarded, ok. So since I believe tackling is important on an SS, I think FF arent important in your mind? Arent FF's apart of tackling?? LOL
I've read a lot of your posts, you really need banned from the forums. You never have anything helpful to say other than flaming individuals.
Last edited Jan 23, 2009 09:07:27
The Fromunda Cheeseheads
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Originally posted by mogs01gt
Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by mogs01gt
SS need to tackle, PD's mean nothing as an SS since that is not their primary role. If the teams DC wants them to play the FS role, that if fine but that is not the norm for other teams.
you are the dumbest person on here if you truly believe this. P.D.'s mean everything for a s.s.
I guess S.S's aren't suppose to force fumbles, get defensive touchdowns, or safeties either right? Stats which I have more of than you as well. He has more TFL this season, than you have for a career. HAHAH your S.S. pretty much sucks.
My SS blows yours away on every aspect. I have almost always played against characters 5+ levels higher every season. Of course anyone can pad stats and play against lower lever players like you have been. Look at the league your SS plays in, its not even competitive. Fame is a direct reflection on the leagues you have played in. Its of hard to get TFL when the DC doesnt have the SS play that role.
Yes, PD mean nothing on an SS. Im the retarded, ok. So since I believe tackling is important on an SS, I think FF arent important in your mind? Arent FF's apart of tackling?? LOL
I've read a lot of your posts, you really need banned from the forums. You never have anything helpful to say other than flaming individuals.
A) Underdog is an asshole, but B) he is not wrong. Also, C) you are not the dumbest person on here and D) your SS does not blow him away in ANY respect other than tackles to missed tackles ratio (1 in 52 tackles--last season about 15% of your tackles were missed), so you've improved at least in the MTKs). But otherwise he dominates you in every category.
Someone cue the retard running in the special olympics pic about arguing on the internet. Neither of you are doing anything other than entertaining the rest of us, because neither of you are gonna 'win' this argument (i.e. convince the other that they are wrong).
As for me, I'm only participating because I'm bored as hell and trying to egg this on. It's really fun to read other people argue, and poorly i might add. There is only one way to defeat a flamer. Never give them a response. Responding only encourages further responses. Now, I'm not encouraging this to stop because I like reading other people get into flamewars. But if you want to 'beat' them, get over whatever it is they said and don't give them the satisfaction of a response. They will go find other fish in the pond to throw firecrackers at.
Sometimes i get into an argument just because I can.
Okay, you both may resume your wasted, but entertaining, efforts.
Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by mogs01gt
SS need to tackle, PD's mean nothing as an SS since that is not their primary role. If the teams DC wants them to play the FS role, that if fine but that is not the norm for other teams.
you are the dumbest person on here if you truly believe this. P.D.'s mean everything for a s.s.
I guess S.S's aren't suppose to force fumbles, get defensive touchdowns, or safeties either right? Stats which I have more of than you as well. He has more TFL this season, than you have for a career. HAHAH your S.S. pretty much sucks.
My SS blows yours away on every aspect. I have almost always played against characters 5+ levels higher every season. Of course anyone can pad stats and play against lower lever players like you have been. Look at the league your SS plays in, its not even competitive. Fame is a direct reflection on the leagues you have played in. Its of hard to get TFL when the DC doesnt have the SS play that role.
Yes, PD mean nothing on an SS. Im the retarded, ok. So since I believe tackling is important on an SS, I think FF arent important in your mind? Arent FF's apart of tackling?? LOL
I've read a lot of your posts, you really need banned from the forums. You never have anything helpful to say other than flaming individuals.
A) Underdog is an asshole, but B) he is not wrong. Also, C) you are not the dumbest person on here and D) your SS does not blow him away in ANY respect other than tackles to missed tackles ratio (1 in 52 tackles--last season about 15% of your tackles were missed), so you've improved at least in the MTKs). But otherwise he dominates you in every category.
Someone cue the retard running in the special olympics pic about arguing on the internet. Neither of you are doing anything other than entertaining the rest of us, because neither of you are gonna 'win' this argument (i.e. convince the other that they are wrong).
As for me, I'm only participating because I'm bored as hell and trying to egg this on. It's really fun to read other people argue, and poorly i might add. There is only one way to defeat a flamer. Never give them a response. Responding only encourages further responses. Now, I'm not encouraging this to stop because I like reading other people get into flamewars. But if you want to 'beat' them, get over whatever it is they said and don't give them the satisfaction of a response. They will go find other fish in the pond to throw firecrackers at.
Sometimes i get into an argument just because I can.
Okay, you both may resume your wasted, but entertaining, efforts.
mogs01gt
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Originally posted by The Fromunda Cheeseheads
Originally posted by mogs01gt
Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by mogs01gt
S need to tackle, PD's mean nothing as an SS since that is not their primary role. If the teams DC wants them to play the FS role, that if fine but that is not the norm for other teams.
you are the dumbest person on here if you truly believe this. P.D.'s mean everything for a s.s.
I guess S.S's aren't suppose to force fumbles, get defensive touchdowns, or safeties either right? Stats which I have more of than you as well. He has more TFL this season, than you have for a career. HAHAH your S.S. pretty much sucks.
My SS blows yours away on every aspect. I have almost always played against characters 5+ levels higher every season. Of course anyone can pad stats and play against lower lever players like you have been. Look at the league your SS plays in, its not even competitive. Fame is a direct reflection on the leagues you have played in. Its of hard to get TFL when the DC doesnt have the SS play that role.
Yes, PD mean nothing on an SS. Im the retarded, ok. So since I believe tackling is important on an SS, I think FF arent important in your mind? Arent FF's apart of tackling?? LOL
I've read a lot of your posts, you really need banned from the forums. You never have anything helpful to say other than flaming individuals.
A) Underdog is an asshole, but B) he is not wrong. Also, C) you are not the dumbest person on here and D) your SS does not blow him away in ANY respect other than tackles to missed tackles ratio (1 in 52 tackles--last season about 15% of your tackles were missed), so you've improved at least in the MTKs). But otherwise he dominates you in every category.
Someone cue the retard running in the special olympics pic about arguing on the internet. Neither of you are doing anything other than entertaining the rest of us, because neither of you are gonna 'win' this argument (i.e. convince the other that they are wrong).
As for me, I'm only participating because I'm bored as hell and trying to egg this on. It's really fun to read other people argue, and poorly i might add. There is only one way to defeat a flamer. Never give them a response. Responding only encourages further responses. Now, I'm not encouraging this to stop because I like reading other people get into flamewars. But if you want to 'beat' them, get over whatever it is they said and don't give them the satisfaction of a response. They will go find other fish in the pond to throw firecrackers at.
Sometimes i get into an argument just because I can.
Okay, you both may resume your wasted, but entertaining, efforts.
Its called padding stats. I prefer to stay in competitive leagues.
Originally posted by mogs01gt
Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by mogs01gt
S need to tackle, PD's mean nothing as an SS since that is not their primary role. If the teams DC wants them to play the FS role, that if fine but that is not the norm for other teams.
you are the dumbest person on here if you truly believe this. P.D.'s mean everything for a s.s.
I guess S.S's aren't suppose to force fumbles, get defensive touchdowns, or safeties either right? Stats which I have more of than you as well. He has more TFL this season, than you have for a career. HAHAH your S.S. pretty much sucks.
My SS blows yours away on every aspect. I have almost always played against characters 5+ levels higher every season. Of course anyone can pad stats and play against lower lever players like you have been. Look at the league your SS plays in, its not even competitive. Fame is a direct reflection on the leagues you have played in. Its of hard to get TFL when the DC doesnt have the SS play that role.
Yes, PD mean nothing on an SS. Im the retarded, ok. So since I believe tackling is important on an SS, I think FF arent important in your mind? Arent FF's apart of tackling?? LOL
I've read a lot of your posts, you really need banned from the forums. You never have anything helpful to say other than flaming individuals.
A) Underdog is an asshole, but B) he is not wrong. Also, C) you are not the dumbest person on here and D) your SS does not blow him away in ANY respect other than tackles to missed tackles ratio (1 in 52 tackles--last season about 15% of your tackles were missed), so you've improved at least in the MTKs). But otherwise he dominates you in every category.
Someone cue the retard running in the special olympics pic about arguing on the internet. Neither of you are doing anything other than entertaining the rest of us, because neither of you are gonna 'win' this argument (i.e. convince the other that they are wrong).
As for me, I'm only participating because I'm bored as hell and trying to egg this on. It's really fun to read other people argue, and poorly i might add. There is only one way to defeat a flamer. Never give them a response. Responding only encourages further responses. Now, I'm not encouraging this to stop because I like reading other people get into flamewars. But if you want to 'beat' them, get over whatever it is they said and don't give them the satisfaction of a response. They will go find other fish in the pond to throw firecrackers at.
Sometimes i get into an argument just because I can.
Okay, you both may resume your wasted, but entertaining, efforts.
Its called padding stats. I prefer to stay in competitive leagues.
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Back on subject....
After losing this game pretty much purely to a power back breaking tackles... (and a pretty decent O-line)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=366365
Im pretty convinced that Safeties along with everyone else on defense except CBs need str.
We had the best SS in the league last year but that game he had 2 tackles and 6 missed tackles. He was in the right spot a good amount of the time but just got ran over. His str is above 50. Most of the guys with missed tackles have above 50. Im guessing the guys that ran over us had over 80-90+ str. Im telling my guys to work towards another 10-15 str (depending on position) over the course of the next season. That should be MUCH easier than those 2 getting 10-15 more str (costs more at their level for those not thinking quick today)
After losing this game pretty much purely to a power back breaking tackles... (and a pretty decent O-line)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=366365
Im pretty convinced that Safeties along with everyone else on defense except CBs need str.
We had the best SS in the league last year but that game he had 2 tackles and 6 missed tackles. He was in the right spot a good amount of the time but just got ran over. His str is above 50. Most of the guys with missed tackles have above 50. Im guessing the guys that ran over us had over 80-90+ str. Im telling my guys to work towards another 10-15 str (depending on position) over the course of the next season. That should be MUCH easier than those 2 getting 10-15 more str (costs more at their level for those not thinking quick today)
frescoelmo
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I might just soft cap strength/tackling at least to 50... They should be relative to each other and from what I've seen, jackhammer VA works pretty well regardless of if you're in the box or in coverage.
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