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Absolut Zero
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Originally posted by secondeye
Originally posted by Absolut Zero

Didn't Bort say somewhere that height and weight are used to calculate subtle bonus's to certain stats.

6'0 and 180 would be the best for speed. 6'4 and 200+ would be the best for possession.

The next wave of big name WR's are looking to be 5'10 and under. Eddie Royal, Lance Moore, Desean Jackson, Donnie Avery, Devin Hester. Dwayne Bowe is the only potential breakout receiver that's big.


Calvin Johnson, Marcus Crabtree, Vincent Jackson, and Brandon Marshall disagree.


Crabtree isn't in the league yet. Marshall should have had a great season this year, but he regressed for some reason. Vincent Jackson won't ever be a star. Calvin Johnson already is, he's one of those borderline pro-bowl types that are young, with Roddy White.
 
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Originally posted by Absolut Zero
Originally posted by secondeye

Originally posted by Absolut Zero


Didn't Bort say somewhere that height and weight are used to calculate subtle bonus's to certain stats.

6'0 and 180 would be the best for speed. 6'4 and 200+ would be the best for possession.

The next wave of big name WR's are looking to be 5'10 and under. Eddie Royal, Lance Moore, Desean Jackson, Donnie Avery, Devin Hester. Dwayne Bowe is the only potential breakout receiver that's big.


Calvin Johnson, Marcus Crabtree, Vincent Jackson, and Brandon Marshall disagree.


Crabtree isn't in the league yet. Marshall should have had a great season this year, but he regressed for some reason. Vincent Jackson won't ever be a star. Calvin Johnson already is, he's one of those borderline pro-bowl types that are young, with Roddy White.


WTF are you talking about? Marshall did no regressing this season. He had 2 more catches, 60 less yards and 1 less TDs in 1 less game this season compared to last season
 
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Originally posted by BroncosBeTheBest
Originally posted by Absolut Zero

Originally posted by secondeye


Originally posted by Absolut Zero



Didn't Bort say somewhere that height and weight are used to calculate subtle bonus's to certain stats.

6'0 and 180 would be the best for speed. 6'4 and 200+ would be the best for possession.

The next wave of big name WR's are looking to be 5'10 and under. Eddie Royal, Lance Moore, Desean Jackson, Donnie Avery, Devin Hester. Dwayne Bowe is the only potential breakout receiver that's big.


Calvin Johnson, Marcus Crabtree, Vincent Jackson, and Brandon Marshall disagree.


Crabtree isn't in the league yet. Marshall should have had a great season this year, but he regressed for some reason. Vincent Jackson won't ever be a star. Calvin Johnson already is, he's one of those borderline pro-bowl types that are young, with Roddy White.


WTF are you talking about? Marshall did no regressing this season. He had 2 more catches, 60 less yards and 1 less TDs in 1 less game this season compared to last season


I think he's referring to how he caught 18 passes his first game, then didn't improve on it the rest of the season.

....lol. That is a pretty ridiculous statement. He had a great season.
 
Jack Del Rio
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Originally posted by boom!
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Height shouldn't make a difference in movement. Wind resistance? lol


Oh but it does. You've obviously never seen Randy Moss try to juke as compared to Wes Welker. And you've obviously never seen Randy Moss run a go route as compared to Wes Welker. Size can make all the difference.

In general, tall guys have a speed advantage and the small guys have an agility advantage.

To put it another way, think Randy Johnson and Tim Lincicum in baseball. Because of Randy Johnson's superior height, he has a lot more leverage on the ball than Lincicum. His movement to the plate is much more gentle and he doesn't have to work as hard to get 98 mph. But on the other hand Lincicum's motion is much more violent because he doesn't have that natural leverage.

Or how about this. A taller players center of gravity is higher off the ground than a smaller player. For him to turn, he has to be much more under control to avoid falling. The smaller player doesn't have to worry about that nearly as much because of some complex physics that go into balance in the human body.

Basically, height does matter.


All the high and mighty shit in you first paragraph aside, I was talking about GLB. Given a 6'4" 180lb WR and a 6'0" 180lb WR, what do you actually think the speed/acceleration penalty on that is, if any?
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Mob-6
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Originally posted by Jack Del Rio


All the high and mighty shit in you first paragraph aside, I was talking about GLB. Given a 6'4" 180lb WR and a 6'0" 180lb WR, what do you actually think the speed/acceleration penalty on that is, if any?


If I had to guess:

Height * Speed/Acceleration boost * Jumping boost
6'0 * 2% * 0%
6'1" * 1% * 1%
6'2" * 0% * 2%
6'3 * -1% * 3%
6'4 * -2% * 4%


Weight * Speed/Acceleration boost * Break tackle boost
180-189 * 2% * 0%
190-200 *1% * 5%
200-210 *0%* 10%





I used asterisks as spaces because the spaces were condensed for some reason pushing everything together.
Last edited Jan 14, 2009 06:43:37
 
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Originally posted by Mob-6
Originally posted by Jack Del Rio



All the high and mighty shit in you first paragraph aside, I was talking about GLB. Given a 6'4" 180lb WR and a 6'0" 180lb WR, what do you actually think the speed/acceleration penalty on that is, if any?


If I had to guess:

Height * Speed/Acceleration boost * Jumping boost
6'0 * 2% * 0%
6'1" * 1% * 1%
6'2" * 0% * 2%
6'3 * -1% * 3%
6'4 * -2% * 4%


Weight * Speed/Acceleration boost * Break tackle boost
180-189 * 1% * 0%
190-200 *2% * 5%
200-210 *3%* 10%





I used asterisks as spaces because the spaces were condensed for some reason pushing everything together.


Fail for having heavy=faster tbh
 
Mob-6
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Oops, your right, I switched those around. Heavier is supposed to be slower.


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