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CapnEnnui
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I have yet to see these skills trigger on any back on my team or my opponent's team. I see power through all the time but I haven't seen these once. Are these skills that bad? Does it not report them activating or something? Have you guys seen them, and how often?
 
Jack Del Rio
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haven't seen them
 
RMiller517
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these aren't "triggering" skills. bort said that he'd put in "power through" when power through is the reason that you've broken a tackle (because it has both an innate +break tackle % and also a chance to simply roll and break the tackle)

lower shoulder and stiff arm are simply +break tackle %, so any time you break a tackle, its part of the whole equation on why you broke it.
 
CapnEnnui
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Originally posted by rmiller517
these aren't "triggering" skills. bort said that he'd put in "power through" when power through is the reason that you've broken a tackle (because it has both an innate +break tackle % and also a chance to simply roll and break the tackle)

lower shoulder and stiff arm are simply +break tackle %, so any time you break a tackle, its part of the whole equation on why you broke it.


OK, I figured it was like this... but I could've sworn Bort said those skills would show up too. Guess he changed it.
 
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Originally posted by Bort
- Power Through, Stiff Arm, and other "break tackle" SA's show up on the pbp, since these would be easy for any fan to pick out too. It will say something like [Missed tackle: so and so (Power Through)]


 
Riggs_Inator
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Stiff Arm is triggered, but Lower Shoulder is a flat Break Tackle % afaik. Doesn't activate, just gives a better chance of breaking tackles.

Never seen a "Missed Tackle (Stiff Arm)" though.
 
CapnEnnui
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Originally posted by Riggs_Inator
Stiff Arm is triggered, but Lower Shoulder is a flat Break Tackle % afaik. Doesn't activate, just gives a better chance of breaking tackles.

Never seen a "Missed Tackle (Stiff Arm)" though.


Someone asked him if "others" meant lower shoulder and he said yes.
 
Splat
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I have yet to see my 11 in stiff arm trigger if it's supposed to be visible.
 
CapnEnnui
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Originally posted by Splat
I have yet to see my 11 in stiff arm trigger if it's supposed to be visible.


ugh. i hope it's not visible. otherwise it just sucks.
 
paul2008
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lower the shoulder on bpb
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=337685&pbp_id=6978525

first one i've ever seen
the build is open, he's got a 0 in the SA

I guess that means putting points in it is worthless

 
ssaints4ever
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Originally posted by paul2008
I guess that means putting points in it is worthless


you stick to that theory lulz

 
CapnEnnui
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Originally posted by ssaints4ever
Originally posted by paul2008

I guess that means putting points in it is worthless


you stick to that theory lulz



Seriously though. Why the hell doesn't it show up much at all, then? Why did it show up for someone without it? I've still never seen it until that link, I still only see Power Through and I'm still not sure it and Stiff Arm aren't bugged. Why else do they not show up except when you don't have it?
 


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