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When is it justifiable to sink more SPs into Super Vision vs. boosting natural vision? I hate that I have to invest in sticky hands to get to SV.

My SV is at the 4 cap and vision is at the 3 cap.

If vision is at the 3 cap, push SV up to about 6 or 7 base.

Thanks, I'm just a little torn on it because I do have to use some SPs to bump sticky hands and I don't really know how the "play reading" bonus works with SV vs regular vision and how that's going to play out.

sticky hands means interceptions. What's wrong with that?

Catching has little to do with INTs. You first have to defend the pass and read the play, which are by far the hardest steps. Once you make the play on the ball, you need minimal catching to actually come down with the pick.

Originally posted by CG
Catching has little to do with INTs. You first have to defend the pass and read the play, which are by far the hardest steps. Once you make the play on the ball, you need minimal catching to actually come down with the pick.

+1

Originally posted by CG
Catching has little to do with INTs. You first have to defend the pass and read the play, which are by far the hardest steps. Once you make the play on the ball, you need minimal catching to actually come down with the pick.

Actually it does. Bort has stated that defenders have a swat ball and INT radius. What might increase that INT radius? Catching.

On a side note, check out this CB with high SAs, he's got quite a few SAs in USA Pro: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=26673

Originally posted by Viscount
Originally posted by CG

Catching has little to do with INTs. You first have to defend the pass and read the play, which are by far the hardest steps. Once you make the play on the ball, you need minimal catching to actually come down with the pick.

Actually it does. Bort has stated that defenders have a swat ball and INT radius. What might increase that INT radius? Catching.

On a side note, check out this CB with high SAs, he's got quite a few SAs in USA Pro: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=26673

Then again, he gets most of his interceptions from weak competition.

Originally posted by Viscount
Originally posted by CG

Catching has little to do with INTs. You first have to defend the pass and read the play, which are by far the hardest steps. Once you make the play on the ball, you need minimal catching to actually come down with the pick.

Actually it does. Bort has stated that defenders have a swat ball and INT radius. What might increase that INT radius? Catching.

On a side note, check out this CB with high SAs, he's got quite a few SAs in USA Pro: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=26673

Catching isn't irrelevant, but you have to read the play first (vision, SV, confidence, who knows), make a break on the ball (agility, speed), defend the pass (jumping, vision, agility, strength, confidence), or make the int (vision, catching, jumping).

Sticky hands may have a small part to do with that, but I'd be shocked if he pulled more than 1 to 2 of those INTs out of traffic as opposed to making a clean break on the ball and snagging a wide open pick.

Originally posted by CG
Originally posted by Viscount

Originally posted by CG


Catching has little to do with INTs. You first have to defend the pass and read the play, which are by far the hardest steps. Once you make the play on the ball, you need minimal catching to actually come down with the pick.

Actually it does. Bort has stated that defenders have a swat ball and INT radius. What might increase that INT radius? Catching.

On a side note, check out this CB with high SAs, he's got quite a few SAs in USA Pro: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=26673

Catching isn't irrelevant, but you have to read the play first (vision, SV, confidence, who knows), make a break on the ball (agility, speed), defend the pass (jumping, vision, agility, strength, confidence), or make the int (vision, catching, jumping).

Sticky hands may have a small part to do with that, but I'd be shocked if he pulled more than 1 to 2 of those INTs out of traffic as opposed to making a clean break on the ball and snagging a wide open pick.

Well Bort has also said that defenders get their swat/INT roll before WRs get their "can I catch it" roll and then get a 2nd roll if the WR doesn't catch it, so traffic wouldn't matter as much.

Check out this INT against Cobra Kai where he's behind the WR:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=272055&pbp_id=9104368

The ball isn't going to the WR he's covering here but he still manages to jump the route:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=210247&pbp_id=2209427

That first one looks like catching would be important, second looks like super vision all the way. I had a hunch that most of the guys hauling in picks had high SV.. just didn't know how high heh.

I'm not out and out opposed to using SAs.. just want to make sure that I have high enough base vision to make more SV worth it.

Originally posted by CG

I'm not out and out opposed to using SAs.. just want to make sure that I have high enough base vision to make more SV worth it.

Very true. But I still wonder exactly how much is enough vision.

Originally posted by CG
Catching has little to do with INTs. You first have to defend the pass and read the play, which are by far the hardest steps. Once you make the play on the ball, you need minimal catching to actually come down with the pick.

A few seasons ago a team had 2x more INT's than any other team and would get the picks against good teams. I'm now a GM of that team and I realized that the reason was that there CB's all had 40+ catching. I've since trained my CB's catching. I don't think I'll ever waste SP's into catching. I'd rather get PD's and just shut him down. Int's are nice though