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Hello,

I’m a new player, joined 4 days ago and made a LB.

I have a few questions,

1st. Is my plan to train up the Speed, Agility and Vision (In that order) to the soft-cap (48?) using training to around 19 and then using skill points to get to 48 a good idea then just training on other stats with my training points and using the new skill points on the Speed, Agility and Vision stats?

2nd. In the early stages of my career what gear bonus’ should I be aiming at? Speed, Agility etc...

3rd. In looking at the LB ads and Teams looking for LB’s on the forum for information, it seems like a lot of players are never picked up by a human team after leaving their D-League team from levels 7-13. What stats should I be aiming for in reaching these levels to be picked up by a team at a normal salary and get not necessarily a starting spot but some reasonable game time, what are the ‘coaches’ looking for in their LB recruits.


Thanks for your help.

Devilous

yes if you cap speed agility and vision by level 13. you will be more sought after, because it will look like you know what you're doing to a certain extent.

use intense training as much as possible. start off training spd/sta and spd/agi. When speed is to 25 or so cap it. Then train agi/vis, when agi is 20-25 cap it. Use equipment in stamina in the D leagues, don't train it up a lot, but do train it up 1-2 points.

Like they both said, capped speed agility and vision will EASILY get you a top job in a capped league (assuming there are capped leagues next year). If there are no new capped leagues, your build will still be good enough to get a job, probably as a backup on a good team with starters in the mid 20s.

And like Darren said, in the d-league, stamina equipment. It'll get you more PT now, which means more EXP.

Only problem is that you created in mid-season. At season's end, you'll be level 5 or something, not good enough to get out of the d-league, and you'll probably be level 11 or 12 when you get kicked out of the D's (and that will be after the level cap moves up to 16). You'll still get a job, just the timing might make it a bit hard. If you really want one, look in the "teams looking for players" forum and sign up for a slowbuild team for next season now.

i like using the speed/agility and vision/confidence intense combos. not to say stamina isn't important, but in the lower leagues u can get by with less. and like they said, u can just do your eq in stamina.

Originally posted by Darren McFadden
use intense training as much as possible.Wouldn't you softcap an attribute quicker if you did normal training for just that stat everyday? Sure, intense trains two stats at once, but you can only do it every 2-3 days. Wouldn't the long term gain be better to do normal training on one stat (i.e. speed to 25-30), softcap it, then move onto the next stat? I've never done the math projected over several seasons, but I would think you'd reach your 1st caps sooner with this method.

I also don't necessarily agree w/ the equipment in stamina either. My d-league LB has gotten 68 (last game), 79, 66, 48, 37, 37, 30, 32, 39 & 38 snaps this season, all giving him 400+ XP. His stamina is a whopping 12.98. If it were a competitive league where you were worried about their late-game performance, then stamina might be important. But in the D-leagues, no one cares about that. It's all about snaps in the D-Leagues and my guy sees plenty of them (even if he's almost in a coma at the end of the game w/ 10 energy).

Originally posted by joemiken
Originally posted by Darren McFadden

use intense training as much as possible.Wouldn't you softcap an attribute quicker if you did normal training for just that stat everyday? Sure, intense trains two stats at once, but you can only do it every 2-3 days. Wouldn't the long term gain be better to do normal training on one stat (i.e. speed to 25-30), softcap it, then move onto the next stat? I've never done the math projected over several seasons, but I would think you'd reach your 1st caps sooner with this method.

true, but then you don't get the bonus tokens for extra SPs or to updrage AEQ. its a tradeoff. i prefer the bonus tokens myself

Originally posted by UMRocks
true, but then you don't get the bonus tokens for extra SPs or to updrage AEQ. its a tradeoff. i prefer the bonus tokens myself

Since I have yet to find a AEQ worth a damn for LBs, this isn't a big concern to me. lol

Plus, I can always gain Bonus Tokens in his 2nd/3rd seasons. Right now, I'm more concerned about getting my stats built up.

Originally posted by joemiken
Originally posted by Darren McFadden

use intense training as much as possible.Wouldn't you softcap an attribute quicker if you did normal training for just that stat everyday? Sure, intense trains two stats at once, but you can only do it every 2-3 days. Wouldn't the long term gain be better to do normal training on one stat (i.e. speed to 25-30), softcap it, then move onto the next stat? I've never done the math projected over several seasons, but I would think you'd reach your 1st caps sooner with this method.

you would soft cap the 1st faster. the 2nd would take longer. since both are important, how fast you get the first capped is not critical, particularly if you are getting speed capped first, before agility, as speed is actually a minor for linebackers (smaller level bonus).

you are also underestimating the value of bonus tokens. to get +3 over the equivalent level eq in a stat that's over 60 is worth 9 SPs. when you get to level 40 you would damn near kill somebody for that.

Originally posted by joemiken
Originally posted by UMRocks

true, but then you don't get the bonus tokens for extra SPs or to updrage AEQ. its a tradeoff. i prefer the bonus tokens myself

Since I have yet to find a AEQ worth a damn for LBs, this isn't a big concern to me. lol

Plus, I can always gain Bonus Tokens in his 2nd/3rd seasons. Right now, I'm more concerned about getting my stats built up.

I think you still want to train on intense. You can use those Bonus Tokens for 4 permanent SPs in your first season. You can't get a 4 SP advantage from training normal in that same time period.

Originally posted by Darren McFadden
you would soft cap the 1st faster. the 2nd would take longer. since both are important, how fast you get the first capped is not critical, particularly if you are getting speed capped first, before agility, as speed is actually a minor for linebackers (smaller level bonus).

I see what you're saying and in hindsight, I should've held onto my SPs until I had enough to get to the 2nd cap (42 if I train to 30).

Originally posted by
you are also underestimating the value of bonus tokens. to get +3 over the equivalent level eq in a stat that's over 60 is worth 9 SPs. when you get to level 40 you would damn near kill somebody for that.

I understand that, but that's 6 seasons down the road and I'll have plenty of time to generate BTs (I've got 4+ on both my L40 guys now). The 4 extra SP from token boosts is tempting though. I'd have to sit and figure up how much (if any) advantage those 4SP would be over training an attribute twice as much though. Anyone got the training % gains vs. attribute values handy?

To kinda add onto the discussion above, for my slow-building LB right now I trained intense for speed/agility until speed was softcapped, then trained just agility (for shopping tokens) until that was capped, then trained just vision. Now I'm intense training strength/tackling while getting the three primaries to their second caps; all bonus tokens will go towards upgrading advanced equipment.

Remember, you don't need to use your shopping tokens right away, and any number will transfer between seasons; it's the bonus tokens that you need to stash away to carry them over. Right now I've got a ton of shopping tokens that I'm going to hold on to until my LB hits level 30, then I'm going shopping. By that time I should have an assload of bonus tokens stored up in a whatevers piece that can be used to immediately upgrade any reasonable piece that I find. I should have at least 32 bonus tokens saved up by that time so my LB will be a monster once he hits level 30.

Originally posted by wallysmith
To kinda add onto the discussion above, for my slow-building LB right now I trained intense for speed/agility until speed was softcapped, then trained just agility (for shopping tokens) until that was capped, then trained just vision. Now I'm intense training strength/tackling while getting the three primaries to their second caps; all bonus tokens will go towards upgrading advanced equipment.

Remember, you don't need to use your shopping tokens right away, and any number will transfer between seasons; it's the bonus tokens that you need to stash away to carry them over. Right now I've got a ton of shopping tokens that I'm going to hold on to until my LB hits level 30, then I'm going shopping. By that time I should have an assload of bonus tokens stored up in a whatevers piece that can be used to immediately upgrade any reasonable piece that I find. I should have at least 32 bonus tokens saved up by that time so my LB will be a monster once he hits level 30.

did you really wait to spend SP's till speed and agility were trained up to 48?!?!
i've been thinking about trying that but don't know if i'd have the patience. sounds like a great plan though

Originally posted by joemiken

I understand that, but that's 6 seasons down the road and I'll have plenty of time to generate BTs (I've got 4+ on both my L40 guys now).

Yes you will have "plenty of time" but the point is....bonus tokens for EQ are so good, that you always want as many of them as possible. Although it is somewhat hard to find good eq for a linebacker. Remember that it's only 1 SP you get from cashing in the token, not +1 to an attribute. Big difference.

Check GLBwiki.com for % gains for attribute points, I don't know if it's there or not but I have seen such a chart before.

Originally posted by UMRocks


did you really wait to spend SP's till speed and agility were trained up to 48?!?!
i've been thinking about trying that but don't know if i'd have the patience. sounds like a great plan though

Naw, that would take forever, haha. Just standard slow-building methods: save all SP's and train your primary attributes until the amount of saved SP's is enough to softcap it. Wash, rinse, repeat.

There are other threads out there that go into slow-building in more detail, but I left those out in my earlier post as that wasn't the point I was getting at.