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Slimer
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Slimer

Lol... have to laugh... everyone keep posting what you have and whether you think it's important or not, but no one gives a reason!

My opinion is that it is important. You figure vision will help a HB see the holes opening up, see the defenders in front of him, and see potential blockers to use.

My question about vision is will it help with fumbling (to an extent) as well? You figure, if you have poor vision, you don't see those around you, opening yourself up to being blind-sided (and more likely to cough it up). If you see all that's going on around you, you're less likely to be surprised from a hit, allowing you to hang onto the ball...

Thoughts?

BTW.. I would think that you'd want to soft cap vision, eventually... I'm talking in your 30's...


Sounds like it. But do you really think This game is so advanced it would look at whether or not you can feel the defenders around you and hold onto the ball better, because you have higher vision. I don't know, That would be logical, and cool.



Well, I figure the game is logical and runs via algorithms, so I wouldn't put it past Bort to add vision into the fumbling formula... no matter now small... don't know though... this game is pretty advanced in that sense...
 
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Originally posted by Slimer
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by Slimer


Lol... have to laugh... everyone keep posting what you have and whether you think it's important or not, but no one gives a reason!

My opinion is that it is important. You figure vision will help a HB see the holes opening up, see the defenders in front of him, and see potential blockers to use.

My question about vision is will it help with fumbling (to an extent) as well? You figure, if you have poor vision, you don't see those around you, opening yourself up to being blind-sided (and more likely to cough it up). If you see all that's going on around you, you're less likely to be surprised from a hit, allowing you to hang onto the ball...

Thoughts?

BTW.. I would think that you'd want to soft cap vision, eventually... I'm talking in your 30's...


Sounds like it. But do you really think This game is so advanced it would look at whether or not you can feel the defenders around you and hold onto the ball better, because you have higher vision. I don't know, That would be logical, and cool.



Well, I figure the game is logical and runs via algorithms, so I wouldn't put it past Bort to add vision into the fumbling formula... no matter now small... don't know though... this game is pretty advanced in that sense...


True.
 
Canadaleaf
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Canadaleaf

i have 30 vision, imo its not to important


What do you run on? Combo?


ya elusive running sucks
 
LarryB
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Originally posted by Canadaleaf
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by Canadaleaf


i have 30 vision, imo its not to important


What do you run on? Combo?


ya elusive running sucks


If you ran on elusive (which really doesn't suck anymore!) 30 vision wouldn't be enough.

OP running on...
Elusive: cap it
Combo: you're fine with 35-40ish
Power: Vision? Save points to spend on strength. If you can't see them when you obliterate them you'll pity them less and keep running.
 
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Originally posted by Slimer
Lol... have to laugh... everyone keep posting what you have and whether you think it's important or not, but no one gives a reason!

My opinion is that it is important. You figure vision will help a HB see the holes opening up, see the defenders in front of him, and see potential blockers to use.

My question about vision is will it help with fumbling (to an extent) as well? You figure, if you have poor vision, you don't see those around you, opening yourself up to being blind-sided (and more likely to cough it up). If you see all that's going on around you, you're less likely to be surprised from a hit, allowing you to hang onto the ball...

Thoughts?

BTW.. I would think that you'd want to soft cap vision, eventually... I'm talking in your 30's...


This game isn't a perfect simulation of reality. That being said, I still believe vision is one of the most overrated stats in the game.

I certainly wouldn't pass up on more SPEED or AGILITY to put SP's into vision.
 
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Originally posted by taurran
This game isn't a perfect simulation of reality. That being said, I still believe vision is one of the most overrated stats in the game.

I certainly wouldn't pass up on more SPEED or AGILITY to put SP's into vision.


I would once they get to the 3-1 cap.
 
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Originally posted by Slimer
Lol... have to laugh... everyone keep posting what you have and whether you think it's important or not, but no one gives a reason!

My opinion is that it is important. You figure vision will help a HB see the holes opening up, see the defenders in front of him, and see potential blockers to use.

My question about vision is will it help with fumbling (to an extent) as well? You figure, if you have poor vision, you don't see those around you, opening yourself up to being blind-sided (and more likely to cough it up). If you see all that's going on around you, you're less likely to be surprised from a hit, allowing you to hang onto the ball...

Thoughts?

BTW.. I would think that you'd want to soft cap vision, eventually... I'm talking in your 30's...


I believe vision does help a bit with fumbles. If you can avoid "quality hits" by the defense, that can only help.
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Slimer
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Originally posted by taurran
Originally posted by Slimer

Lol... have to laugh... everyone keep posting what you have and whether you think it's important or not, but no one gives a reason!

My opinion is that it is important. You figure vision will help a HB see the holes opening up, see the defenders in front of him, and see potential blockers to use.

My question about vision is will it help with fumbling (to an extent) as well? You figure, if you have poor vision, you don't see those around you, opening yourself up to being blind-sided (and more likely to cough it up). If you see all that's going on around you, you're less likely to be surprised from a hit, allowing you to hang onto the ball...

Thoughts?

BTW.. I would think that you'd want to soft cap vision, eventually... I'm talking in your 30's...




This game isn't a perfect simulation of reality. That being said, I still believe vision is one of the most overrated stats in the game.

I certainly wouldn't pass up on more SPEED or AGILITY to put SP's into vision.


While I agree with your comment about GLB not being a realistic simulation of reality, I do think that there are realistic quantities that Bort uses to program the simulation... and adding a "pinch" of vision into whether a player fumbles or not is something that i can see included... or will be included.

Vision being overrated? If you don't have a good view of the playing field, how would you know how to react? I think vision would affect reaction time...
 
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