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Originally posted by foppa9601

Also, just because the scouting or match up's show balance, it does not factor in boosted equipment. I have seen level 25 teams blow the socks off level 30 teams.


Very good point that I was not previously aware of. That's news to me.

On the flip side, we do have three Lv 32 players who are fully upgraded, so I'm not sure who had the advantage in the last game.

Either way you guys deserve credit, as I said before. I could tell the scouting was great.
 
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What makes this league difficult isn't just the levels of the teams out there. The game planning that goes on is very, very good. In a lot of cases, you can go back through the games (not just your team, but everyone) and realize opposing coordinators designed their plays to obtain a certain result, or exploit something they saw in game films, trends, etc.

Even down to the point of setting individual tactics. If, for example, Rocky Mountain took every one of their tacklers and set them to power tackling, it should result in more balls on the ground. If your returner's carrying number is weak, increased fumbles is the inevitable result. Not saying that's actually the case, but just another example of where else to look beyond chemistry issues.
 
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Originally posted by reggiefrom40
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The couple questions I have to you is, how is your team's confidence? Do your players all have low confidence numbers?


I will admit confidence never really crossed my mind. I thought about morale, and that wasn't too bad but we do have quite a few players with low confidence numbers but I figured most every team had that.

Anyway that is interesting and you might be onto something there.

I'm not a huge fan of confidence in the first place but if everybody is really low it could have alot to do with the quicksand problem.
 
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Here's something GwennA posted on another thread that I think applies to the fumbling issues on Special Teams returns:

"I disagree. This is a huge deal when, in addition to people getting a jump, blockers aren't bothering to even try and block the wings on special teams. Fumbles by a returner from 2-3 defenders getting clean, running shots at them have been a huge factor in a few games already.
Special teams is a part of the game too, and just like it would be a big deal to play if blitzing linebackers were able to get a jump on the play past the LOS and go unblocked, this should be addressed." - as posted by GwennA
 
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Originally posted by JC769
Originally posted by reggiefrom40

Originally posted by JC769



The couple questions I have to you is, how is your team's confidence? Do your players all have low confidence numbers?


I will admit confidence never really crossed my mind. I thought about morale, and that wasn't too bad but we do have quite a few players with low confidence numbers but I figured most every team had that.

Anyway that is interesting and you might be onto something there.

I'm not a huge fan of confidence in the first place but if everybody is really low it could have alot to do with the quicksand problem.


Bort has stated repeatedly that Confidence is the most underrated stat in the game. You have to think realisticaly, cause thats how Bort is building this game in his own mind. You can have a Bull Rushing DE with 70 strength, 50 agility and 50 speed, but if his confidence is 19 or 20, hes self-esteem is to low and hes afraid of the big bad O-Lineman.
 
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Originally posted by Morphius

Bort has stated repeatedly that Confidence is the most underrated stat in the game. You have to think realisticaly, cause thats how Bort is building this game in his own mind. You can have a Bull Rushing DE with 70 strength, 50 agility and 50 speed, but if his confidence is 19 or 20, hes self-esteem is to low and hes afraid of the big bad O-Lineman.


I don't think confidence plays a role there. My DT has low confidence and leads his league in hurries and sacks by a DT.

Confidence has more to do with morale. If a DT is pancaked, his morale drops. If he has low confidence, it drops a lot. Morale gives a boost to stats, so if he has really low morale because of low CONF, he has lower effective strength and agility, leading to another likely pancake or missed tackle, further lowering morale. So if your DT has high enough STR that he'll rarely be pancaked (though in this league, that's close to 100), you don't really need high CONF. On the other hand, a quick DT needs high CONF because he's going to get pancaked frequently because of his build.

Where CONF really kicks in is in the passing game. When a QB throws a pick, if he has low conf, he has a good chance of throwing another pick in the next drive. When a WR drops a pass, he has a good chance of dropping the next pass. When a CB gets beat deep, he has a good chance of getting beat deep the next play.





 
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Originally posted by matta
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Bort has stated repeatedly that Confidence is the most underrated stat in the game. You have to think realisticaly, cause thats how Bort is building this game in his own mind. You can have a Bull Rushing DE with 70 strength, 50 agility and 50 speed, but if his confidence is 19 or 20, hes self-esteem is to low and hes afraid of the big bad O-Lineman.


I don't think confidence plays a role there. My DT has low confidence and leads his league in hurries and sacks by a DT.

Confidence has more to do with morale. If a DT is pancaked, his morale drops. If he has low confidence, it drops a lot. Morale gives a boost to stats, so if he has really low morale because of low CONF, he has lower effective strength and agility, leading to another likely pancake or missed tackle, further lowering morale. So if your DT has high enough STR that he'll rarely be pancaked (though in this league, that's close to 100), you don't really need high CONF. On the other hand, a quick DT needs high CONF because he's going to get pancaked frequently because of his build.

Where CONF really kicks in is in the passing game. When a QB throws a pick, if he has low conf, he has a good chance of throwing another pick in the next drive. When a WR drops a pass, he has a good chance of dropping the next pass. When a CB gets beat deep, he has a good chance of getting beat deep the next play.


I'm just speaking from my own experience with my DE I have in another league. He sucked and did nothing stat wise. No hurries or sacks. Then I upped his confidence from like 17 to 30 and he started doing a lot better. I agree that Confidence affects Morale in the all ways you're talking about. I'm just saying it plays a part in other ways as well. Especially as Bort balances out the game season by season making it harder and harder to just ignore a certain stat and say "nah, you don't really need that".
 
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Originally posted by Morphius

I'm just speaking from my own experience with my DE I have in another league. He sucked and did nothing stat wise. No hurries or sacks. Then I upped his confidence from like 17 to 30 and he started doing a lot better. I agree that Confidence affects Morale in the all ways you're talking about. I'm just saying it plays a part in other ways as well. Especially as Bort balances out the game season by season making it harder and harder to just ignore a certain stat and say "nah, you don't really need that".


Yeah, I agree that it plays a big role. I was just disagreeing at how it plays a role. None of us really know for sure, but I've never seen a low confidence DT or DE respond poorly until he's pancaked.

Which makes sense why you see it with a DE - contrary to popular belief, the OT's get more pancakes than the G's because people build DT's with high STR to stop the run game, while DE's are primarily built with high AGL and SPD as pass rushers.

 
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Originally posted by matta
Originally posted by Morphius

I'm just speaking from my own experience with my DE I have in another league. He sucked and did nothing stat wise. No hurries or sacks. Then I upped his confidence from like 17 to 30 and he started doing a lot better. I agree that Confidence affects Morale in the all ways you're talking about. I'm just saying it plays a part in other ways as well. Especially as Bort balances out the game season by season making it harder and harder to just ignore a certain stat and say "nah, you don't really need that".

Yeah, I agree that it plays a big role. I was just disagreeing at how it plays a role. None of us really know for sure, but I've never seen a low confidence DT or DE respond poorly until he's pancaked.

Which makes sense why you see it with a DE - contrary to popular belief, the OT's get more pancakes than the G's because people build DT's with high STR to stop the run game, while DE's are primarily built with high AGL and SPD as pass rushers.


I can't believe this came from matta!?!?! I would have expected to hear you say you have to increase your Punting!
 
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Originally posted by matta

Which makes sense why you see it with a DE - contrary to popular belief, the OT's get more pancakes than the G's because people build DT's with high STR to stop the run game, while DE's are primarily built with high AGL and SPD as pass rushers.


That makes a lot of sense and I think that's an accurate assessment.
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