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shaun123987
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Originally posted by Sarg01
Originally posted by shaun123987

Yes so I guess my stats are worse than his? /sarcasm


Your stats are irrelevant. Winchester's position is that confidence is not a primary attribute. Assuming Winchester does not have high confidence, his argument can be made conclusively if people consider his stats to be quality stats - since the lack of confidence failed to cripple him.


Yeah I understand what you mean. My QB used to be on a bad team with not so good confidence (check my season 3) and once I raised confidence and got another team I did much better than on the old team. But I guess if low confidence works, then it works. My guy has strength and confidence equal so I don't think either of them are dominant over the other.
 
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Well it doesn't matter for me, because I now laugh at all who try to make QB's now a days. My confidence is soft capped, and my strength is somewhat close to soft capped. My QB was not that good when I had confidence lower than strength, because I didn't think confidence mattered, then when I softed capped confidence, I am having the best season ever. My choice is still with confidence.

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aliuking
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Originally posted by JocularFX
Well it doesn't matter for me, because I now laugh at all who try to make QB's now a days. My confidence is soft capped, and my strength is somewhat close to soft capped. My QB was not that good when I had confidence lower than strength, because I didn't think confidence mattered, then when I softed capped confidence, I am having the best season ever. My choice is still with confidence.

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Without either your QB will be limited, either you are stuck as a dink or dunk QB or you have to be on a team that overmatches their competition to not get blasted for the low confidence
 
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Originally posted by aliuking

Without either your QB will be limited, either you are stuck as a dink or dunk QB or you have to be on a team that overmatches their competition to not get blasted for the low confidence


Looking at my QBs stats so far, would you call me a dink and dunk QB? Low strength equaling dink and dunk is a bullshit myth. Plenty of my TDs and yards have been from big plays. It has much more to do with your receivers then your strength.
 
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str is good, but if you start throwing picks or wr dropping balls or several incompletes in a row your qb production goes in the tank. where confidence prevents or slows down the tanking process.
 
winchester
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Originally posted by tsosumi
str is good, but if you start throwing picks or wr dropping balls or several incompletes in a row your qb production goes in the tank. where confidence prevents or slows down the tanking process.


How do you know this? I have never seen a true answer from bort or anyone about this. I think this is one of the big assumptions everyone has about it. Everyone talks about how there QB is better once they boosted and put points into confidence, but hell you boosted and I am sure you also put more points into throwing then you did confidence. If you tank during a game I am sure its because the other team is actually better or they had a better gameplan then you had going in. You can not expect your LVL 27 QB to go in and put up big numbers against LVL 33 CB, why would he.

 
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Speed
Agilty
throwing
vision
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quarterbag
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Originally posted by winchester
Confidence is way OVERRATED. Now I am not saying do not put any into it but mine is nowhere close to the soft cap and I am fine. I think strength is actually more important then vision, but everyone is different.

1. Throwing
2. Strength
3. SA



you can't see, you can't throw

 
Staceman
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Confidence can make or break your QB against the tougher teams. If your WR's start dropping, you can head down hill really quick. Drops, incompletes, INT's all hurt a QB's confidence, the only thing that helps is TD's...there are far more negatives than positives to draw upon. A strong running team and a few early drops can doom your QB. We have gone to a 2 QB rotation and see a big difference. If drops are spread out, both QB's do well. If 1 QB gets more drops/inc's, then they have a horrible game, but the other QB will have a big game. At our levels (32/33) the XP levels out anyway, so we both still get max XP. We may not top the charts any more (my qb was #2 or #3 almost every year), but our team has only lost 1 regular season game in the last 3 seasons and went undefeated last year....and lead out league (AA#2) with an easy coast into the playoffs..where we will probably be favored...
 
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Originally posted by Staceman
Confidence can make or break your QB against the tougher teams. If your WR's start dropping, you can head down hill really quick. Drops, incompletes, INT's all hurt a QB's confidence, the only thing that helps is TD's...there are far more negatives than positives to draw upon. A strong running team and a few early drops can doom your QB. We have gone to a 2 QB rotation and see a big difference. If drops are spread out, both QB's do well. If 1 QB gets more drops/inc's, then they have a horrible game, but the other QB will have a big game. At our levels (32/33) the XP levels out anyway, so we both still get max XP. We may not top the charts any more (my qb was #2 or #3 almost every year), but our team has only lost 1 regular season game in the last 3 seasons and went undefeated last year....and lead out league (AA#2) with an easy coast into the playoffs..where we will probably be favored...


Everyone has there own there own opinion, but you have lost the same amount of playoff games as we have over those 3 seasons (not being an ass), we just not boost till the playoffs and just wanted a top 3 spot. How do you know 35 is not considered high confidence? We use 2 QBs too, and the backup is just a LVL 25 and does a great job. We play higher LVL guys every game and we get sacked a lot. Why are we not throwing a ton of picks and just getting beat every game because of our QB confidence? If it was such a big deal we would get smoked. Maybe instead of worrying about confidence, you put points into throwing, you would not have all the drops to so called make your QB tank. Everyone has there own opinion and that is why people can say what they think works. For ME, it’s not confidence. I would rather have a ton of throwing and strength any day over confidence.
 
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Originally posted by jbiller
Originally posted by aliuking


Without either your QB will be limited, either you are stuck as a dink or dunk QB or you have to be on a team that overmatches their competition to not get blasted for the low confidence


Looking at my QBs stats so far, would you call me a dink and dunk QB? Low strength equaling dink and dunk is a bullshit myth. Plenty of my TDs and yards have been from big plays. It has much more to do with your receivers then your strength.


About half of your TDs are 10-15 yard passes and a blown coverage giving you the long TD plays, and I've seen about 7 of your TD plays, now I am not saying dink and dunk is bad, if you have superior talent then it won't matter, likewise if you are at a high enough level the strength will have to go up anyway just due to the need to get the most out of your SPs
 
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My QB has soft capped strength vision and throwing. I've just trained and put the additional point left over by raising the soft cap in Confidence. I think my qb is doing fairly well with just 38 con.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=625377

I wouldn't say it's over rated, i just think it is situational. I think the biggest impact it has is completions while getting hurried.
 
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Originally posted by aliuking

About half of your TDs are 10-15 yard passes and a blown coverage giving you the long TD plays, and I've seen about 7 of your TD plays, now I am not saying dink and dunk is bad, if you have superior talent then it won't matter, likewise if you are at a high enough level the strength will have to go up anyway just due to the need to get the most out of your SPs


You can't find the blown coverage if you can't see it, and having good WRs is an easy way to get blown coverage. Like I said before, good WRs are the main piece to a good quick strike passing attack. And my average for yards per touchdown pass is 31.34375 yards.

 
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