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Originally posted by Craelath
Originally posted by MattMan Firespot

Originally posted by Craelath


Originally posted by MattMan Firespot



Originally posted by Craelath




Originally posted by brock86





Maybe if we all compared how we did against said gutted teams? I just played one..

2 Picks (both returned for TDs)
1 recovered fumble, also returned for a TD
6 Deflections, IIRC 4 vs my WR and 2 vs the TE
8 Tackles, IIRC 2 on the run/pitch, 5 on my WR, and the last on the TE

The most interesting thing to take away from that is how bad Aggressive is nowadays. I only broke even on Tackles vs PD+Picks, and that's against mostly CPU players 8 levels lower than me.


Gutted team, does not count. Deflections, picks, and tackles are all overrated at the cornerback position. Game by game breakdowns of coverage is all that really matters. My corner plays the entire time, provides air tight coverage, and has only given up four receptions so far this year. And I still think 2.0 catches allowed per game is high.


If you could duplicate yourself, and date her, would you?


That's funny, but to date, no one has gone so far as to look extensively at what really matters for a cornerback. That's providing shut down coverage on whoever you're covering. All I'm trying to do is show people how absolutely meaning less stats are to having a great game as a cornerback. Even in the NFL, possibly even the CFL (I'm quite unfamiliar with their stats), stats for a cornerback don't matter. Most of the time the players with big interception numbers are the ones gambling for the ball, sacrificing their coverage responsibility to try to get on ESPN. Ideally, Bort would add these couple stats, which really do matter, to defense, but I don't see it happening, so I've made it my mission to show people how absolutely overrated stats are. Now, if someone were to come here with a legit breakdown of a game where they were on for 80 plays against someone 28 levels higher, and was only thrown at three times with two defelctions and an incomplete, then awesome. Not only would that have been an incredible game from a coverage standpoint, one far greater than any I've posted, but someone would finally show that they get it. They understand a one pass deflected game has the potential to be infinitely greater than six deflections.



I think you underestimate the intelligence of the people in this thread, or, atleast one of em. The thread title is 'The Best Individual Show'...Noone asked you to come in here and be 'that guy' who seems upset with the world because he doesnt get enough attention or for some weird personal issue.
This thread was supposed to be enjoyable for people, thank you for ruining it with your filth.
You've made it a mission to inform CBs that their stats are meaningless?? You need a role model, and a life.

And before you spew your nonsense, maybe you should watch people game tape before you make assumptions...As if any CB with stats isnt a shutdown CB...GTFO loser.


By definition, you can't be a "shut down" corner if you had 16 passes deflected in a game.


You are an idiot.
 
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Originally posted by MattMan Firespot
Originally posted by Craelath

Originally posted by MattMan Firespot


Originally posted by Craelath



Originally posted by MattMan Firespot




Originally posted by Craelath





Originally posted by brock86






Maybe if we all compared how we did against said gutted teams? I just played one..

2 Picks (both returned for TDs)
1 recovered fumble, also returned for a TD
6 Deflections, IIRC 4 vs my WR and 2 vs the TE
8 Tackles, IIRC 2 on the run/pitch, 5 on my WR, and the last on the TE

The most interesting thing to take away from that is how bad Aggressive is nowadays. I only broke even on Tackles vs PD+Picks, and that's against mostly CPU players 8 levels lower than me.


Gutted team, does not count. Deflections, picks, and tackles are all overrated at the cornerback position. Game by game breakdowns of coverage is all that really matters. My corner plays the entire time, provides air tight coverage, and has only given up four receptions so far this year. And I still think 2.0 catches allowed per game is high.


If you could duplicate yourself, and date her, would you?


That's funny, but to date, no one has gone so far as to look extensively at what really matters for a cornerback. That's providing shut down coverage on whoever you're covering. All I'm trying to do is show people how absolutely meaning less stats are to having a great game as a cornerback. Even in the NFL, possibly even the CFL (I'm quite unfamiliar with their stats), stats for a cornerback don't matter. Most of the time the players with big interception numbers are the ones gambling for the ball, sacrificing their coverage responsibility to try to get on ESPN. Ideally, Bort would add these couple stats, which really do matter, to defense, but I don't see it happening, so I've made it my mission to show people how absolutely overrated stats are. Now, if someone were to come here with a legit breakdown of a game where they were on for 80 plays against someone 28 levels higher, and was only thrown at three times with two defelctions and an incomplete, then awesome. Not only would that have been an incredible game from a coverage standpoint, one far greater than any I've posted, but someone would finally show that they get it. They understand a one pass deflected game has the potential to be infinitely greater than six deflections.



I think you underestimate the intelligence of the people in this thread, or, atleast one of em. The thread title is 'The Best Individual Show'...Noone asked you to come in here and be 'that guy' who seems upset with the world because he doesnt get enough attention or for some weird personal issue.
This thread was supposed to be enjoyable for people, thank you for ruining it with your filth.
You've made it a mission to inform CBs that their stats are meaningless?? You need a role model, and a life.

And before you spew your nonsense, maybe you should watch people game tape before you make assumptions...As if any CB with stats isnt a shutdown CB...GTFO loser.


By definition, you can't be a "shut down" corner if you had 16 passes deflected in a game.


You are an idiot.


This, my friends, is clearly the best comment in the history of the internet. Bookmark it, for it is awesome. Now, kindly explain how you can be a "shutdown" corner when you've been targeted 16 times. You seem to be twisting it into some kind of negative that it's not a true shutdown corner. This makes you dumb. All I've said is stats at the cornerback position, in this game and everywhere, are overrated. Take my latest coverage score, thanks to San Diego Charger's spreadsheet, where I have a 103.00 score as the #1 corner on my team. This gets completely lost in everyone's obsession with stats, yet I did the absolute best job that could've possibly been done. Do I have flashy stats? Not at all, but I'd put my corner against your receivers any day of the week.
 
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Originally posted by Craelath
Originally posted by MattMan Firespot

Originally posted by Craelath


Originally posted by MattMan Firespot



Originally posted by Craelath




Originally posted by MattMan Firespot





Originally posted by Craelath






Originally posted by brock86







Maybe if we all compared how we did against said gutted teams? I just played one..

2 Picks (both returned for TDs)
1 recovered fumble, also returned for a TD
6 Deflections, IIRC 4 vs my WR and 2 vs the TE
8 Tackles, IIRC 2 on the run/pitch, 5 on my WR, and the last on the TE

The most interesting thing to take away from that is how bad Aggressive is nowadays. I only broke even on Tackles vs PD+Picks, and that's against mostly CPU players 8 levels lower than me.


Gutted team, does not count. Deflections, picks, and tackles are all overrated at the cornerback position. Game by game breakdowns of coverage is all that really matters. My corner plays the entire time, provides air tight coverage, and has only given up four receptions so far this year. And I still think 2.0 catches allowed per game is high.


If you could duplicate yourself, and date her, would you?


That's funny, but to date, no one has gone so far as to look extensively at what really matters for a cornerback. That's providing shut down coverage on whoever you're covering. All I'm trying to do is show people how absolutely meaning less stats are to having a great game as a cornerback. Even in the NFL, possibly even the CFL (I'm quite unfamiliar with their stats), stats for a cornerback don't matter. Most of the time the players with big interception numbers are the ones gambling for the ball, sacrificing their coverage responsibility to try to get on ESPN. Ideally, Bort would add these couple stats, which really do matter, to defense, but I don't see it happening, so I've made it my mission to show people how absolutely overrated stats are. Now, if someone were to come here with a legit breakdown of a game where they were on for 80 plays against someone 28 levels higher, and was only thrown at three times with two defelctions and an incomplete, then awesome. Not only would that have been an incredible game from a coverage standpoint, one far greater than any I've posted, but someone would finally show that they get it. They understand a one pass deflected game has the potential to be infinitely greater than six deflections.



I think you underestimate the intelligence of the people in this thread, or, atleast one of em. The thread title is 'The Best Individual Show'...Noone asked you to come in here and be 'that guy' who seems upset with the world because he doesnt get enough attention or for some weird personal issue.
This thread was supposed to be enjoyable for people, thank you for ruining it with your filth.
You've made it a mission to inform CBs that their stats are meaningless?? You need a role model, and a life.

And before you spew your nonsense, maybe you should watch people game tape before you make assumptions...As if any CB with stats isnt a shutdown CB...GTFO loser.


By definition, you can't be a "shut down" corner if you had 16 passes deflected in a game.


You are an idiot.


This, my friends, is clearly the best comment in the history of the internet. Bookmark it, for it is awesome. Now, kindly explain how you can be a "shutdown" corner when you've been targeted 16 times. You seem to be twisting it into some kind of negative that it's not a true shutdown corner. This makes you dumb. All I've said is stats at the cornerback position, in this game and everywhere, are overrated. Take my latest coverage score, thanks to San Diego Charger's spreadsheet, where I have a 103.00 score as the #1 corner on my team. This gets completely lost in everyone's obsession with stats, yet I did the absolute best job that could've possibly been done. Do I have flashy stats? Not at all, but I'd put my corner against your receivers any day of the week.


You have a point I guess, but I'm gonna side with MM on this one. I don't care how many time's your man is targeted, if he doesn't catch a ball all day then you did your job of "shutting down" the WR.
 
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I don't see it as being a true "shut down" corner. It's more of a ball hawking type cornerback, in the mold of what you see in the NFL now, as opposed to the few out there from the past that would be covered so tight quarterbacks would avoid them. I'm not saying one type is any better than the other, but to look at it from a statistical standpoint, the former true shutdown type gets completely overlooked, which is why I take most stats with a grain of salt for the position. If a comprehensive breakdown is included, and your guy caught one out of 8 balls with five others being deflected, you're no better or worse than a guy who was targeted twice and one being deflected with similar play time, yet everyone gets caught up in the "Oh he had more stats!" craze. That's really not what the corner position is about. Also, this quote tunnel is a frigging mess.
 
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Im new but in my 3rd game i think it was, I had 16 tackles 1 PD and 0 missed tackles. I thought it was pretty sweet for being lvl 3 and a 4th string CB heh, I led the game then. The next game i had a normal game with 2 tackles lol and a PD
 
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Neat play IMO: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=140555&pbp_id=4824989

Missed the PD (the little freeze before the catch), missed the tackle, but still ended the play by forcing the receiver out of bounds. Now that's pro Unfortunately it accounts for 18.5 of the 19.5 yards I gave up that game.
 
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you dont see people go out of bounds in GLB very often.
 
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