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Kevin Smith
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Originally posted by kalkmanc
And the Pimps backed out because:

1) The person running it is a complete joke and doesn't know a good team when he sees one.
2) The whole idea will never work. How long has it been since SI started this load of crap? and still not 1 game has been played?
3) SI wanted to lower seed to pay for the higher seed to play, so yes, seeds did matter-not sure if he switched that or not, but im assuming he did since it got such negative reaction.
4) Not all the best teams are participating, at one point he had ZERO WEPL teams even in his top 64. According to Fairforever's linked thread, WEPL is the 2nd best conference-since the level count means everything.
5) Another reason this tournament is flawed, and SI basically admitted it is that most of these teams are drastically different than last year. Teams will always be switching rosters and such.
6) A disagreement on when to play teams, some teams boost early, some boost late-early boosters have the advantage over late boosters in a tournament at the beginning of the season.
7) The fact that I don't feel like scouting and gameplanning any extra hours for some bunk tournament. I own one team and ACTIVELY GM another and GM 2 other teams on top of that.
8) SI wasn't even going to include us in his original tournament...why? because we had 0 level 25s on the roster-that was his answer. lol..and then we went on to win the championship beating teams with multiple 25s and 26s, so THEN we are good enough?..right.
9) SI's team is in the tournament and his team sucks-making this tournament completely and utterly flawed.


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Zeke0123
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Im not saying you guys dont have points...but this was not an easy task nor is it perfect...It will never be...you "Black Sheep" pulled out for whatever reason..I dont see the point of disparaging what a bunch of players/owners in this thing are looking forward to.
 
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Originally posted by Kevin Smith
Originally posted by kalkmanc

And the Pimps backed out because:

1) The person running it is a complete joke and doesn't know a good team when he sees one.
2) The whole idea will never work. How long has it been since SI started this load of crap? and still not 1 game has been played?
3) SI wanted to lower seed to pay for the higher seed to play, so yes, seeds did matter-not sure if he switched that or not, but im assuming he did since it got such negative reaction.
4) Not all the best teams are participating, at one point he had ZERO WEPL teams even in his top 64. According to Fairforever's linked thread, WEPL is the 2nd best conference-since the level count means everything.
5) Another reason this tournament is flawed, and SI basically admitted it is that most of these teams are drastically different than last year. Teams will always be switching rosters and such.
6) A disagreement on when to play teams, some teams boost early, some boost late-early boosters have the advantage over late boosters in a tournament at the beginning of the season.
7) The fact that I don't feel like scouting and gameplanning any extra hours for some bunk tournament. I own one team and ACTIVELY GM another and GM 2 other teams on top of that.
8) SI wasn't even going to include us in his original tournament...why? because we had 0 level 25s on the roster-that was his answer. lol..and then we went on to win the championship beating teams with multiple 25s and 26s, so THEN we are good enough?..right.
9) SI's team is in the tournament and his team sucks-making this tournament completely and utterly flawed.


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His team lost 60-7 ..... he would have a hard time winning in South East Asia BBB.
 
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Originally posted by Zeke0123
Im not saying you guys dont have points...but this was not an easy task nor is it perfect...It will never be...you "Black Sheep" pulled out for whatever reason..I dont see the point of disparaging what a bunch of players/owners in this thing are looking forward to.


Exactly. I think that some people would like to pretend that more than half these teams do not deserve to be here. That is just not the case.
 
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Originally posted by ImTheScientist
Probably true unfortunately. This is also why he wants everyone to believe lvl>>>build/tactics


Level does not > Build/Tactics.

But to discount tpat, Ronin, Harper, etc. as some of the best tacticians out there would be a disgrace.

And notice how a lot of the guys who were in USA Pro in seasons 1 and 2 are not there anymore, because they had pretty horrendous builds. At the same time, one of my season 2 players spent a season and a half in USA Pro even with his reduced level because of his build.

Make excuses more?
 
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By the way, I never said that SI made good picks. I do not like him at all, based on what happened in Canada Pro. But to back out for that reason? Pretty weak.

Kai + Pimps = All Talk.

On the other hand, teams like the Mustangs... Tim didn't want to join, but stood up to the challenge (as well, the team members were sorta eager to join in).

I guess we're not cowards.
 
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lol it doesn't matter the trout will take this down...but all the people bitching here are just beating a dead horse. yeah we know it's flawed inperfect homosexual etc but nobody cares, we're playing this for fun.
 
FairForever
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Originally posted by Commander
lol it doesn't matter the trout will take this down...but all the people bitching here are just beating a dead horse. yeah we know it's flawed inperfect homosexual etc but nobody cares, we're playing this for fun.


99/0 10/0 (or whatever it was) sub settings FTL!

Sorry, couldn't help bringing it up.
 
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Originally posted by FairForever
By the way, I never said that SI made good picks. I do not like him at all, based on what happened in Canada Pro. But to back out for that reason? Pretty weak.

Kai + Pimps = All Talk.

On the other hand, teams like the Mustangs... Tim didn't want to join, but stood up to the challenge (as well, the team members were sorta eager to join in).

I guess we're not cowards.


Not cowards, pussies that get persuaded to do things they don't want to.
 
Joebarber
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Originally posted by FairForever


Kai + Pimps = All Talk.



You saw the reasons that we pulled out.

We will be glad to set up a friendly with you when the option is available.
 
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Originally posted by Joebarber
Originally posted by FairForever



Kai + Pimps = All Talk.



You saw the reasons that we pulled out.

We will be glad to set up a friendly with you when the option is available.


Firstly, you guys could probably beat the Elves. I don't deny it.

That being said, there's a reason we didn't get invited. But if we did, we'd have no reservations playing. Sure, we'd lose first round for sure. But hey, who cares?

And with that, the Elves don't mind being a last minute sub for any team that backs out. But we won't play a couple of poser teams that like to pretend they're any good. Cobra Kai, top 5 team? They're barely top 5 in their league.

And kalmanc, we did want to join the tournament. Only Harper was semi-against it. The rest of the team wanted to do it from the beginning. Is it as important as a league title? Not even close. But it's still an interesting format to play.
 
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Originally posted by FairForever
Originally posted by Joebarber

Originally posted by FairForever




Kai + Pimps = All Talk.



You saw the reasons that we pulled out.

We will be glad to set up a friendly with you when the option is available.


Firstly, you guys could probably beat the Elves. I don't deny it.

That being said, there's a reason we didn't get invited. But if we did, we'd have no reservations playing. Sure, we'd lose first round for sure. But hey, who cares?

And with that, the Elves don't mind being a last minute sub for any team that backs out. But we won't play a couple of poser teams that like to pretend they're any good. Cobra Kai, top 5 team? They're barely top 5 in their league.

And kalmanc, we did want to join the tournament. Only Harper was semi-against it. The rest of the team wanted to do it from the beginning. Is it as important as a league title? Not even close. But it's still an interesting format to play.


I'll take that as a no...

So that leaves us with
FairForever = All Talk
 
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Originally posted by Joebarber
Originally posted by FairForever

Originally posted by Joebarber


Originally posted by FairForever





Kai + Pimps = All Talk.



You saw the reasons that we pulled out.

We will be glad to set up a friendly with you when the option is available.


Firstly, you guys could probably beat the Elves. I don't deny it.

That being said, there's a reason we didn't get invited. But if we did, we'd have no reservations playing. Sure, we'd lose first round for sure. But hey, who cares?

And with that, the Elves don't mind being a last minute sub for any team that backs out. But we won't play a couple of poser teams that like to pretend they're any good. Cobra Kai, top 5 team? They're barely top 5 in their league.

And kalmanc, we did want to join the tournament. Only Harper was semi-against it. The rest of the team wanted to do it from the beginning. Is it as important as a league title? Not even close. But it's still an interesting format to play.


I'll take that as a no...

So that leaves us with
FairForever = All Talk


As in, I'll play any of the 64 teams that signed up for the tournament. Not the cowards that pulled out.
 
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Originally posted by FairForever
Originally posted by Joebarber

Originally posted by FairForever




Kai + Pimps = All Talk.



You saw the reasons that we pulled out.

We will be glad to set up a friendly with you when the option is available.


Firstly, you guys could probably beat the Elves. I don't deny it.

That being said, there's a reason we didn't get invited. But if we did, we'd have no reservations playing. Sure, we'd lose first round for sure. But hey, who cares?

And with that, the Elves don't mind being a last minute sub for any team that backs out. But we won't play a couple of poser teams that like to pretend they're any good. Cobra Kai, top 5 team? They're barely top 5 in their league.

And kalmanc, we did want to join the tournament. Only Harper was semi-against it. The rest of the team wanted to do it from the beginning. Is it as important as a league title? Not even close. But it's still an interesting format to play.


alright, slight misunderstanding...i personally would rather just play teams of owners who i am in contact with frequently and have them be friendlies.if bort were to set up a league of champions, id be all for it and would would try my best to make it there.
 
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Originally posted by kalkmanc
Originally posted by FairForever

By the way, I never said that SI made good picks. I do not like him at all, based on what happened in Canada Pro. But to back out for that reason? Pretty weak.

Kai + Pimps = All Talk.

On the other hand, teams like the Mustangs... Tim didn't want to join, but stood up to the challenge (as well, the team members were sorta eager to join in).

I guess we're not cowards.


Not cowards, pussies that get persuaded to do things they don't want to.


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