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Originally posted by Time Trial
For sure. People want GLB2 to fail because (a) they don't think that the market can support both games; and (b) they want Bort to come home and love them.
duh I want 2.0 to fail now because I have 0 to no interest in it. I tried it and would rather 1.0. You are right I don't believe 1.0 and 2.0 can both be supported. 1.0 may not survive, but who knows how long the run of 2.0 will be either. I agree Bort won't be back so your and b section is pretty ridiculously stupid I am assuming as well.

Originally posted by Time Trial
Since the new game was advertised to old GLB1 players via email blast, it brought a lot of people back to the game who hadn't visited a WG game in years.
I don't think you can count most of those as having "come back"...........but point taken. Really poor logic though.

Originally posted by Time Trial
Bort's not coming back. When GLB2 no longer needs his full attention, he'll be working on the next WG project.
Am I to assume it won't be another damn football game? We were assured it wouldn't be and yet here we are. Should he splinter the user base again? I doubt there will be something new outside of football any time soon and I expect 3.0 is already in works.. :/Sarcasm:

Originally posted by Time Trial
Bort isn't the kind of person to dump a project he's spent so much time on like GLB2. That game could have 50 users and he would work on it until he was happy with it. But when he's done, he's looking forward, not backward.
LOL I present to you GLB "Classic." Really, you make this too easy.

Originally posted by Time Trial
Well, obviously this thread is 8+ pages of "your statement is a lie."
Technically there is very little that is negative directly about 2.0 but much that has been said positive for 1.0 in this thread so really you should understand half of what is going on before you call someone a liar. Actually you have spent more time calling us out for "not giving the game a fair shake" than anything else. I have my opinion of the new game, and I don't care for it. You love it or bort one.. perhaps it is lust who knows.

Originally posted by Time Trial
I don't think you know what paraphrasing means. What you did is to take my main idea, reverse it, and then attribute it back to me.
I don't think you know what sarcasm means. What you did there is completely miss his point, reverse it and misunderstood the attributions of his statement.



:/troll:

Originally posted by bhall43
For someone who doesn't like the past rewritten, you sure do make up your own version of it quite a bit.

No

You, homage, and DD annoyed the fuck out of people. If you want to pretend like that never happened then more power to you.

Originally posted by bhall43
For someone who doesn't like the past rewritten, you sure do make up your own version of it quite a bit.

honestly, it doesn't seem to be rewritten here. Perhaps perception is different, but rewritten is a confusing term for it. Now who is right, I guess time will tell, but the writing does not seem to be on the wall for a huge success...... success perhaps in the end.

Also I love the constant cries of how Bort abandons games. This game had a great 5 year run but the later changes, despite making the overall engine better, wasn't bringing in new agents and wasn't bringing back old ones either. Might it have been smarter to make a new sport? Maybe...maybe not. But the thought that 2 months into glb2 operation that WG's is going to just pick up and move on to the next is just dumb.

Originally posted by bhall43
Also I love the constant cries of how Bort abandons games. This game had a great 5 year run but the later changes, despite making the overall engine better, wasn't bringing in new agents and wasn't bringing back old ones either. Might it have been smarter to make a new sport? Maybe...maybe not. But the thought that 2 months into glb2 operation that WG's is going to just pick up and move on to the next is just dumb.

Are you trying to tell us that Bort didn't go AWOL for a couple of years and then came back with a mad rush to update and/or fix a lot of shit ahead of GLB2's release?

Originally posted by toobad4u_00
honestly, it doesn't seem to be rewritten here. Perhaps perception is different, but rewritten is a confusing term for it. Now who is right, I guess time will tell, but the writing does not seem to be on the wall for a huge success...... success perhaps in the end.

So you are saying all the glb1 is better than glb2 threads are just figments of my imagination? Whether glb2 is gonna be a success or not isn't what I'm debating.

Originally posted by Dub J
Are you trying to tell us that Bort didn't go AWOL for a couple of years and then came back with a mad rush to update and/or fix a lot of shit ahead of GLB2's release?



A couple of years? Loldub just stop.

Yeah, was prolly a bit longer than that.

Originally posted by Dub J
Are you trying to tell us that Bort didn't go AWOL for a couple of years and then came back with a mad rush to update and/or fix a lot of shit ahead of GLB2's release?



of course that is what he is saying.. we all know that didn't happen : Shady:

Originally posted by bhall43
So you are saying all the glb1 is better than glb2 threads are just figments of my imagination? Whether glb2 is gonna be a success or not isn't what I'm debating.

Perhaps you should learn to read the parts that you quote a bit better.

Dub j has played this game so long he actually believes a glb season is one year.

Originally posted by bhall43
Dub j has played this game so long he actually believes a glb season is one year.

Dude, we all know that Bort disappeared for more than 2 damn seasons. Come on and at least try to make your lies reasonable.

Originally posted by Dub J
I've already explained to you why people that are strictly loyal to the real GLB wanted the second game to do well. We figured there would be a trickle down effect if the new game was a hit. That GLB would benefit from the users brought in to play the new game. Even after it was announced the second game would be another football sim we still had the same hope despite the fact we knew better. I read many times where someone post something along the lines of "I hope 2.0 does well and then the new guys want something more and come to GLB".

The "us vs. them" mentality was born by a few people that allowed alpha tester to go to their head. The same few people that are still pretending as if 2.0 has been a success. And obviously you learned nothing from GLB. Bort will most likely abandon 2.0 until the release of the third game is near and then he will have a million updates in the changelog for 2.0 in a very short span.


(I'm going to assume you are refering to me, since you were purposely vague)

I'm not saying first season 2.0 was a success, I'm saying I liked it. I had a lot of fun playing 2.0.

For the first time in the five+ years that I have been playing this game, I didn't buy flex points on Boxing Day. I was done with GLB. The stagnant sim, the stagnant discussion forums, the stagnant player builder... I was ready to walk when my last players hit decline.

Bort could have (and probably should have) done an expansion to GLB1 to keep it fresh. New SAs, new VAs, new archetypes, new formations, new sim options, quicker build times.... something to keep this game interesting for the player who likes building players, but who is bored.

It used to be that when GLB1 players left GLB because they were bored, there was no where else for them to go to get a decent football sim online. Those players left and would maybe resurface 20 or so seasons later. GLB2 is a viable option for some. It has all of the changing elements that GLB enjoyed in the early days. It has a development team that is responding to bugs and suggestions, something this game has been lacking for years. Is the lack of attention because Bort was working on GLB2, so that maybe he would have been more attentive to GLB1 if WG never released a new game? Possibly. Would GLB1 be in a better position if Bort had made a different kind of sports game? No. GLB1 would have continued to be ignored and long-standing bugs and suggestions would go unanswered.


"Bort will most likely abandon 2.0 until the release of the third game is near and then he will have a million updates in the changelog for 2.0 in a very short span."

How many seasons did Bort spend with GLB1 before becoming less active? 10? 20?

The idea that he's done with development on 2.0 is pretty lulzy. This isn't a finished product and there are a ton of fixes and features still to come. That's exciting to me. Even if other people don't like GLB2, as long as I'm having a good time, Bort will have me back as a HoF package customer.

Originally posted by toobad4u_00
Perhaps you should learn to read the parts that you quote a bit better.

Well if you aren't directly arguing my point maybe you shouldn't quote me.

Originally posted by toobad4u_00
Dude, we all know that Bort disappeared for more than 2 damn seasons. Come on and at least try to make your lies reasonable.

I'm not sure why you keep squawking nonsense? Does 100 days equal a year to you? Has it been years since things were tested in this game? No.


No.