This is the death of Spread Offense. Why make a 300 WR when we can make a 200 FB and run West Coast?
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Originally posted by sehorn31
I hate to keep doing this but again, Dub is right. Any good DC knows this. Where is all the DC's saying how happy they are??
lol
I hate to keep doing this but again, Dub is right. Any good DC knows this. Where is all the DC's saying how happy they are??
lol
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Originally posted by Dr. E
you ruined the spread 4 wide hooks. That used to be an awesome play.
if i did something to a play it was because there was too much route congestion or someone just wasnt going out on a route. ive spent a ton of time over the last few seasons using all the plays in the book and these were my recommendations to catch as changes i think would make them more interesting to use. i also realized the scat fb wasnt really getting the love they deserve on deeper routes so i took that into consideration as well.
you ruined the spread 4 wide hooks. That used to be an awesome play.
if i did something to a play it was because there was too much route congestion or someone just wasnt going out on a route. ive spent a ton of time over the last few seasons using all the plays in the book and these were my recommendations to catch as changes i think would make them more interesting to use. i also realized the scat fb wasnt really getting the love they deserve on deeper routes so i took that into consideration as well.
Originally posted by bhall43
if i did something to a play it was because there was too much route congestion or someone just wasnt going out on a route. ive spent a ton of time over the last few seasons using all the plays in the book and these were my recommendations to catch as changes i think would make them more interesting to use. i also realized the scat fb wasnt really getting the love they deserve on deeper routes so i took that into consideration as well.
so since you run the show, feel free to OC for me anytime big guy
if i did something to a play it was because there was too much route congestion or someone just wasnt going out on a route. ive spent a ton of time over the last few seasons using all the plays in the book and these were my recommendations to catch as changes i think would make them more interesting to use. i also realized the scat fb wasnt really getting the love they deserve on deeper routes so i took that into consideration as well.
so since you run the show, feel free to OC for me anytime big guy
Originally posted by bhall43
if i did something to a play it was because there was too much route congestion or someone just wasnt going out on a route. ive spent a ton of time over the last few seasons using all the plays in the book and these were my recommendations to catch as changes i think would make them more interesting to use. i also realized the scat fb wasnt really getting the love they deserve on deeper routes so i took that into consideration as well.
YOU'VE RUINED EVERYTHING
if i did something to a play it was because there was too much route congestion or someone just wasnt going out on a route. ive spent a ton of time over the last few seasons using all the plays in the book and these were my recommendations to catch as changes i think would make them more interesting to use. i also realized the scat fb wasnt really getting the love they deserve on deeper routes so i took that into consideration as well.
YOU'VE RUINED EVERYTHING
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Originally posted by sehorn31
This is the death of Spread Offense. Why make a 300 WR when we can make a 200 FB and run West Coast?
that death happened 5 seasons ago. you are late to the party.
This is the death of Spread Offense. Why make a 300 WR when we can make a 200 FB and run West Coast?
that death happened 5 seasons ago. you are late to the party.
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Originally posted by evileyez
YOU'VE RUINED EVERYTHING
i know...catch wanted me to make plays for new forms and i recommended this first since there has always been talks about doing this since progressions came in. sorry to the dc's for putting off the the page and a half of new inputs for new forms by suggesting something easy to work with and fun at the same time. woe as me...
YOU'VE RUINED EVERYTHING
i know...catch wanted me to make plays for new forms and i recommended this first since there has always been talks about doing this since progressions came in. sorry to the dc's for putting off the the page and a half of new inputs for new forms by suggesting something easy to work with and fun at the same time. woe as me...
Originally posted by bhall43
i know...catch wanted me to make plays for new forms and i recommended this first since there has always been talks about doing this since progressions came in. sorry to the dc's for putting off the the page and a half of new inputs for new forms by suggesting something easy to work with and fun at the same time. woe as me...
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i know...catch wanted me to make plays for new forms and i recommended this first since there has always been talks about doing this since progressions came in. sorry to the dc's for putting off the the page and a half of new inputs for new forms by suggesting something easy to work with and fun at the same time. woe as me...
APOLOGY NOT ACCEPTED
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Originally posted by Dub J
I'll just say this and then I'm finished with this thread.
I'm sure I'm not the only one that was extremely disappointed when I saw the flashing changelog only to discover it's another sim related change. I know there is -0- chance Bort will even look at this post but I'll go ahead and say it anyway. This game needs fun. FUN FUN FUN FUN. Mini-games, bling, more customization, ect... Not more work.
When I saw "changed/added HB/FB routes" it made me want to smash my fucking monitor. Dear Lord, 6 years and you're still doing this shit? Weren't we supposed to start the entertaining stuff after leaving beta? Where is it? I sure as hell haven't seen it.
To those 3 people that claim these kind of changes are what keeps you around, I'm calling bullshit. You will be here until the site shuts down regardless of what Bort does so just stop pretending you're going anywhere. That's why it's imperative that Bort becomes more concerned with the majority of the userbase than the wants of a few. That's how we got to the point we're at now.
I'll just say this and then I'm finished with this thread.
I'm sure I'm not the only one that was extremely disappointed when I saw the flashing changelog only to discover it's another sim related change. I know there is -0- chance Bort will even look at this post but I'll go ahead and say it anyway. This game needs fun. FUN FUN FUN FUN. Mini-games, bling, more customization, ect... Not more work.
When I saw "changed/added HB/FB routes" it made me want to smash my fucking monitor. Dear Lord, 6 years and you're still doing this shit? Weren't we supposed to start the entertaining stuff after leaving beta? Where is it? I sure as hell haven't seen it.
To those 3 people that claim these kind of changes are what keeps you around, I'm calling bullshit. You will be here until the site shuts down regardless of what Bort does so just stop pretending you're going anywhere. That's why it's imperative that Bort becomes more concerned with the majority of the userbase than the wants of a few. That's how we got to the point we're at now.
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Originally posted by Bane
Exactly, it's nothing to be alarmed about because backs already ran routes from those formations before.
It is not more work for a DC to adjust to these new routes than it would have been if they add all new formations.
It's because the formations had a "flavor" caused by which Back did or didn't run a route which enabled a DC to cheat coverage specific to the formation. It's way too much work to open all my D plays and figure out which wont and which will still work, that will have to come in time, but a quick glance and I'm guessing screens and sweeps become a bit more productive.
Exactly, it's nothing to be alarmed about because backs already ran routes from those formations before.
It is not more work for a DC to adjust to these new routes than it would have been if they add all new formations.
It's because the formations had a "flavor" caused by which Back did or didn't run a route which enabled a DC to cheat coverage specific to the formation. It's way too much work to open all my D plays and figure out which wont and which will still work, that will have to come in time, but a quick glance and I'm guessing screens and sweeps become a bit more productive.
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Originally posted by bhall43
if i did something to a play it was because there was too much route congestion or someone just wasnt going out on a route. ive spent a ton of time over the last few seasons using all the plays in the book and these were my recommendations to catch as changes i think would make them more interesting to use. i also realized the scat fb wasnt really getting the love they deserve on deeper routes so i took that into consideration as well.
There isn't a FB in the spread formation. This play used to be one of my primary short yardage and red zone go to plays, now it's worthless for such situations. The formation as a whole now becomes slightly easier to defend with what used to be a great short passing play.
if i did something to a play it was because there was too much route congestion or someone just wasnt going out on a route. ive spent a ton of time over the last few seasons using all the plays in the book and these were my recommendations to catch as changes i think would make them more interesting to use. i also realized the scat fb wasnt really getting the love they deserve on deeper routes so i took that into consideration as well.
There isn't a FB in the spread formation. This play used to be one of my primary short yardage and red zone go to plays, now it's worthless for such situations. The formation as a whole now becomes slightly easier to defend with what used to be a great short passing play.
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Now that bhall is here I guess I'll post here again.
If the changes have no impact on defenses and nothing will change then what was the point? Getting pretty mixed signals here. OCs are saying that making any changes to our defensive plays is unnecessary since we should already have everything covered but also stating that having better routes is omg so wonderful. Which is it?
Is "the changes are so minimal that you don't even need to adjust your plays" codespeak for "we're finally going to get a few OP'd plays and there's not shit you can do about it so sit back and take it"?
Would like to know how many hours of testing went into this.
If the changes have no impact on defenses and nothing will change then what was the point? Getting pretty mixed signals here. OCs are saying that making any changes to our defensive plays is unnecessary since we should already have everything covered but also stating that having better routes is omg so wonderful. Which is it?
Is "the changes are so minimal that you don't even need to adjust your plays" codespeak for "we're finally going to get a few OP'd plays and there's not shit you can do about it so sit back and take it"?
Would like to know how many hours of testing went into this.
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