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Originally posted by EvilVoodoo77
funny thing is people act like qbs can never get plays off. hb's and wr's can but god forbid a qb.

The difference is that at HB and WR there are usually role players who do certain things quite well to take over a particular role easily for a play or 2. QB is really not such a position. Generally speaking you need the QB to be able to take on several roles just in case something occurs. Further, the role players can just be used as a connection where as a QB will have to touch the ball. Sure he may just be able to hand the ball off in some cases, but if he is in for an entire series or something of that nature he will probably have to throw the ball at some point. In general, if the back up QB was who you wanted throwing the ball he would be your starter. Also, even if the backup QB is there just to hand the ball off there is several exchanges that change slightly which could cause issue. Generally speaking, you don't want any of those exchanges changing unless they absolutely have to. Therefore, it is not a great thing if a QB is missing plays. Granted, he comes back in, but it is still concerning when he comes off the field because of pain, and this is an absolute truth for every starting QB in the NFL, and yes it is more concerning for a QB to come off than a HB or WR.

Originally posted by Outlaw Dogs
Yeah, making that comparison it's lazy racism.

I don't know about that. There really is some similarities at least, and there is some reason to at least believe it is possible for injury going for RG3 based on what we have seen. He takes alot of hard hits. Sure only a few of those have led to coming off the field, but some have led to coming off the field and each hit there is still a chance for it to happen. I would say saying there is no difference in the 2 whatsoever is like saying Randall Cunningham and Warren Moon were similar style QBs. The statements are different in that the first comparison is that they are precisely the same while the 2nd comparison states they were similar. The statements are similar, by way of how inaccurate the statements are. Moon and Cunningham had 2 very different games, but they both threw accurate, hard balls. Vick and RG3 have similar styles in some ways, but they are about as far different as different statements here.

I could say that Jay Cutler and Peyton Manning are the same cause they are both White QBs that can't run, but I'd be wrong too.

You could say Kevin Durant and Nate Robinson are the same because they're both black NBA players that can dunk.

But then I'd laugh in your face.

funny thing is i havent heard one comparison of kaepernick or wilson to vick.

Originally posted by EvilVoodoo77
funny thing is i havent heard or wilson to vick.

really? they are both like 5 feet tall

Originally posted by EvilVoodoo77
funny thing is i havent heard one comparison of kaepernick or wilson to vick.

Then you have not been listening very well. Kaepernick has been. The reason is it isn't as loud is there is not as much for us to go by just yet, and we aren't sure Kaepernick will warrant so much talk really.

Originally posted by Outlaw Dogs
I could say that Jay Cutler and Peyton Manning are the same cause they are both White QBs that can't run, but I'd be wrong too.

They are both slow, white, pocket passers who don't extend plays particularly well (Peyton does not have to because he reads defenses particular well and fast, generally). They are similar in that regard. The differences that lie elsewhere are greater difference than that of RG3 and Vick style. You have to admit they are at least similar which was my point, I would never say they are the same or even really close to the same.

kaepernick throws too well to be compared to vick

Originally posted by fast420
kaepernick throws too well to be compared to vick



Are you talking about accuracy or deep ball?

Apples are red
Oranges are Orange
They are both fruit, so they must be the same.

Originally posted by CyberNinja
Apples are red
Oranges are Orange
They are both fruit, so they must be the same.

I was so ready for a poem.

Originally posted by Thundercat_12
This is rivers 2nd straight season of suck so pay attention

Luck is 2nd in the league in turnovers yes he's doin a good job and is certainly exceeding expectations but he's hardly a 2nd tier QB

RG3 is the next vick how many games has RG3 been knocked of or not played in already sure he'sok but hardly a franchise QB

Wilson tbh my fav of the 3 rookies have you seen doug flutie well he's very similiar sure he's hot of late but needs to maintain before I bump him up

Really big ben over matt ryan crazy ryan is ready 2 jump to elite status after this season

Rivers is having a respectable season on a horrid team so maybe u should pay attention to yourself, hes also been an excellent QB for the greater part of his career.

Luck is on a team with a new head coach, zero offensive tallent, a new def scheme and a 2-14 team 1 year ago, Now they are a playoff team. Maybe u should look at wins and stop thinking stats are the whole story. Your a fool if u dnt think hes ready to become a top QB. BTW Peyton Manning had a lot of INTs his first year, howd he turn out?

RGIII btw has taken almost zero hard hits since the earlier part of the season since he will now slide or run out of bounds most of the time. If u thinkn hes as stupid as Vick then good for u. Regardless of missing 1 game hes as good as any QB on that 2nd tier list u came up with.

Matt Ryan?? LOL U. You mean the guy with zero playoff wins and possibly the most tallented WR/TE corps in the league. Yea put that tallent around Big Ben and lets see what he does, Ben has something called Balls and toughness, he also wins in the playoffs.

Originally posted by fast420
kaepernick throws too well to be compared to vick

So does RG3

Originally posted by T♠2♠


Are you talking about accuracy or deep ball?

i'd say accuracy and his complete lack of ability to read a defense

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