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taurran
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Originally posted by cowtesticles2001
THEY GET SHUFFLED EVERY SEASON POINDEXTER


The Halidi0t Explodouches have been scrambled.
Edited by taurran on Aug 26, 2010 19:34:56
 
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THEY SO FRESH
 
calamnet
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Originally posted by taurran
Here's a nice algorithm that works.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4204724





Now go get your f'in shinebox.


Ah, based off an algorithm you didn't create, that is based on the season before, that doesn't take into account any sort of recruiting, retirement, etc.

Yea....sound dude, sound.
 
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Originally posted by taurran
Nothing is fool proof, but an educated selection is MUCH better. S17 is a perfect example of why Random doesn't work. You're feeling the burnt of it, so I'd expect you to see this.


Oh, fuck, I'm pissed, and I'm being sincere. I'm pissed about a lot of stuff that I won't get into here. I also agree that an educated guess would have a better chance of creating more evenly matched conferences (though I obviously believe they are closer to even right now than you do). The bitch is who does them? Bort? I suspect that is the "random" selection process currently being used (I DON'T know that, just a guess). OK, so that won't work...use the script NiborRis does? I love that he does it, but there are all sorts of flaws to it that doesn't make it "fair" and it doesn't apply to next ssn. So, you do a committee, expect everyone to take it seriously, truly research all the teams and be non bias?

I'd love to have a better solution. I just don't see one that won't cause as many problems
 
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Originally posted by calamnet
Originally posted by taurran

Here's a nice algorithm that works.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4204724

Now go get your f'in shinebox.


Ah, based off an algorithm you didn't create, that is based on the season before, that doesn't take into account any sort of recruiting, retirement, etc.

Yea....sound dude, sound.


It's more accurate that "completely random". I'm not sure why everyone is too dense to comprehend this.
 
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any system would be better than completely random...
 
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Originally posted by cowtesticles2001
THEY GET SHUFFLED EVERY SEASON POINDEXTER


this would have been a good thread if this were the only response, and then it was locked.
 
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Originally posted by taurran
It's more accurate that "completely random". I'm not sure why everyone is too dense to comprehend this.


Dense? We get what you want to do asshole, it's just stupid as fuck.

He could shuffle it a thousand times and still end up with one strong conference.

So base it off a rankings script and manually hand pick each entry? I bet that sounds like a shit load of fun.

 
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Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by taurran

Nothing is fool proof, but an educated selection is MUCH better. S17 is a perfect example of why Random doesn't work. You're feeling the burnt of it, so I'd expect you to see this.


Oh, fuck, I'm pissed, and I'm being sincere. I'm pissed about a lot of stuff that I won't get into here. I also agree that an educated guess would have a better chance of creating more evenly matched conferences (though I obviously believe they are closer to even right now than you do). The bitch is who does them? Bort? I suspect that is the "random" selection process currently being used (I DON'T know that, just a guess). OK, so that won't work...use the script NiborRis does? I love that he does it, but there are all sorts of flaws to it that doesn't make it "fair" and it doesn't apply to next ssn. So, you do a committee, expect everyone to take it seriously, truly research all the teams and be non bias?

I'd love to have a better solution. I just don't see one that won't cause as many problems


People will always bitch, either way. The point is to do it in the most efficient and accurate manner possible. It will never be "perfect". Random is anything but perfect.

There are quite a few ways to be closer to the target. Bort could even code SoS into the rankings that include ranked scrimmages. Most games have this. It's called a RANKED LADDER.

Now, I'm not the person that codes this game, and I'm not going to be doing their job for zero reward. There's the problem - now go fix it. Build a ranked ladder based on a similar concept to what Niboris does, and then utilize that. If Bort needs me to take a PERL class and code it for him, then he's certainly just being lazy and not caring.
 
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Originally posted by hays23
any system would be better than completely random...


I honestly don't know this to be true, but I'd GUESS that it isn't "random" and that Bort tries to balance it himself, likely with some input from another admin or 2. Hell, wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he looks at NiborRis's rankings as well. I could be completely wrong, though. It's just a very slightly educated guess.
 
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Originally posted by calamnet
Originally posted by taurran

It's more accurate that "completely random". I'm not sure why everyone is too dense to comprehend this.


Dense? We get what you want to do asshole, it's just stupid as fuck.

He could shuffle it a thousand times and still end up with one strong conference.

So base it off a rankings script and manually hand pick each entry? I bet that sounds like a shit load of fun.



[_] understands relativity

Just because something isn't perfect doesn't mean it can't be better.
 
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Originally posted by Gart888
Originally posted by cowtesticles2001

THEY GET SHUFFLED EVERY SEASON POINDEXTER


this would have been a good thread if this were the only response, and then it was locked.


It would be better if a link to your face came after "POINDEXTER".
 
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Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by hays23

any system would be better than completely random...


I honestly don't know this to be true, but I'd GUESS that it isn't "random" and that Bort tries to balance it himself, likely with some input from another admin or 2. Hell, wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he looks at NiborRis's rankings as well. I could be completely wrong, though. It's just a very slightly educated guess.


Highly educated. Those rankings are quite accurate at day 40.
 
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Originally posted by taurran
[_] understands relativity

Just because something isn't perfect doesn't mean it can't be better.


[ ] understands reality.

Then suggest something better than what you are suggesting.

Just because I disagree with you, doesn't mean I don't get what you are proposing.
 
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Originally posted by calamnet
Originally posted by taurran

[_] understands relativity

Just because something isn't perfect doesn't mean it can't be better.


[ ] understands reality.

Then suggest something better than what you are suggesting.

Just because I disagree with you, doesn't mean I don't get what you are proposing.


I already did. Take off your blinders and learn to read.
 
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