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I think people may not understand how big heart actually works. The game tying touchdown, the game tying field goal, and the OT touchdown did not have anything to do with big heart.

Crazy game though. Field goal with 30 seconds to go to OT then that long drive to get the game winner in OT


I don't think you understand how Big Heart works. It stays on until the score is WITHIN 7 points. It wasn't on for the last FG drive but morale was killed by that time. Big Heart should have been nerfed long ago, I definitely agree with Hulk. Either ways, great game O...the curse lives on.(4 straight Bort Bowls by a team I GM, 4 straight losses)


FWIW, only 2 players have 15 in Big Heart, and 1 other has 4 in it.

I think 1 of our TDs was a Big Heart TD. Otherwise, it was just the bounce of the dot ball.


and us just being better, but for some reason I think people don't think that's possible


People just can't seem to grasp MEM losing without some glitch or something


Really? What was the glitch everyone was pointing to in the championship game vs. the Nighthawks? Or the game last year? You're just a dumbass fucking hater really.


Touchy much? I'm no MEM hater but they just got beat and everyone is in here saying it was because of big heart. The we were the better team but they got us this time talk is a crock of shit


Well moron, do your homework and go look at what people were saying about the ***O*** getting through round 2 of the playoffs... it's a common theme, sorry you're too stupid or ignorant to remember 4 days ago.
 
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I think people may not understand how big heart actually works. The game tying touchdown, the game tying field goal, and the OT touchdown did not have anything to do with big heart.

Crazy game though. Field goal with 30 seconds to go to OT then that long drive to get the game winner in OT


I don't think you understand how Big Heart works. It stays on until the score is WITHIN 7 points. It wasn't on for the last FG drive but morale was killed by that time. Big Heart should have been nerfed long ago, I definitely agree with Hulk. Either ways, great game O...the curse lives on.(4 straight Bort Bowls by a team I GM, 4 straight losses)


I was under the impression it turned off when you were within 7 not below 7, so once they were down 7, it would be gone on that td drive (the reason bort changed it to that). Yea, the morale effect is still there and it's just a dumb VA in general. No one every said bort thought things through all the way when adding VAs or adjusting the sim. There's lot's of sim issues (tons of head fakes even when the guy is pinned to the sideline, pathing issues, etc...) so i just commented that OFG didn't win because of some bullshit thing. They deserved it.


The game was actually really entertaining to watch. I've never actually wondered till now but how is possession in OT determined?


I have no idea and they didn't only win because of Big heart, saying that is shafting Duff and Hulk who I respect but it did play a part in it.



I agree with Gerry but even if they only won because of big heart it was a great strategic decision that took balls.

 
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I just checked our moral, yeah I don't buy the moral spiral at all. Moral has been screwed up since day 1 probably, which is why a lot of players don't invest in confidence.

ONE defender on our team ended up with moral less than 100. And he finished at 99. Every other defender on our team had moral of 100.

Offense is a different story, but I have noticed that all season. Defense never loses moral. In our loss to GB we had one guy under 95.

In our loss to Cincy no one was under 97.
 
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Originally posted by chronoaug







I think people may not understand how big heart actually works. The game tying touchdown, the game tying field goal, and the OT touchdown did not have anything to do with big heart.

Crazy game though. Field goal with 30 seconds to go to OT then that long drive to get the game winner in OT


I don't think you understand how Big Heart works. It stays on until the score is WITHIN 7 points. It wasn't on for the last FG drive but morale was killed by that time. Big Heart should have been nerfed long ago, I definitely agree with Hulk. Either ways, great game O...the curse lives on.(4 straight Bort Bowls by a team I GM, 4 straight losses)


FWIW, only 2 players have 15 in Big Heart, and 1 other has 4 in it.

I think 1 of our TDs was a Big Heart TD. Otherwise, it was just the bounce of the dot ball.


and us just being better, but for some reason I think people don't think that's possible


People just can't seem to grasp MEM losing without some glitch or something


Really? What was the glitch everyone was pointing to in the championship game vs. the Nighthawks? Or the game last year? You're just a dumbass fucking hater really.


Touchy much? I'm no MEM hater but they just got beat and everyone is in here saying it was because of big heart. The we were the better team but they got us this time talk is a crock of shit


Well moron, do your homework and go look at what people were saying about the ***O*** getting through round 2 of the playoffs... it's a common theme, sorry you're too stupid or ignorant to remember 4 days ago.


I just don't see the difference between 3 guys having big heart and SI slamming the whole game
 
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Originally posted by jrry32





Originally posted by chronoaug






I think people may not understand how big heart actually works. The game tying touchdown, the game tying field goal, and the OT touchdown did not have anything to do with big heart.

Crazy game though. Field goal with 30 seconds to go to OT then that long drive to get the game winner in OT


I don't think you understand how Big Heart works. It stays on until the score is WITHIN 7 points. It wasn't on for the last FG drive but morale was killed by that time. Big Heart should have been nerfed long ago, I definitely agree with Hulk. Either ways, great game O...the curse lives on.(4 straight Bort Bowls by a team I GM, 4 straight losses)


FWIW, only 2 players have 15 in Big Heart, and 1 other has 4 in it.

I think 1 of our TDs was a Big Heart TD. Otherwise, it was just the bounce of the dot ball.


and us just being better, but for some reason I think people don't think that's possible


21 points better in the fourth quarter, of course!


Yes, and luckily for ***O*** football games aren't three quarters long.


HOORAY 4TH QUARTER! And Big Heart, of course. GG Cappy.


GG to you, and yes, I'm glad 4th quarters exist
 
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Originally posted by Clinton Esquire

Well moron, do your homework and go look at what people were saying about the ***O*** getting through round 2 of the playoffs... it's a common theme, sorry you're too stupid or ignorant to remember 4 days ago.


please explain to those of us who haven't done our homework what exactly what happened 4 days ago
 
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I just checked our moral, yeah I don't buy the moral spiral at all. Moral has been screwed up since day 1 probably, which is why a lot of players don't invest in confidence.

ONE defender on our team ended up with moral less than 100. And he finished at 99. Every other defender on our team had moral of 100.

Offense is a different story, but I have noticed that all season. Defense never loses moral. In our loss to GB we had one guy under 95.

In our loss to Cincy no one was under 97.


What was Slinky's morale? I know he would have great games during the season and end up with like 50 morale.
What did he end up with this game?
 
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Slinky ended the game at 66 moral. With high confidence and going 6 for 7 with a huge game tieing bomb.

Just one more thing about GLB that is messed up.
 
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Originally posted by The Duff Man
I just checked our moral, yeah I don't buy the moral spiral at all. Moral has been screwed up since day 1 probably, which is why a lot of players don't invest in confidence.

ONE defender on our team ended up with moral less than 100. And he finished at 99. Every other defender on our team had moral of 100.

Offense is a different story, but I have noticed that all season. Defense never loses moral. In our loss to GB we had one guy under 95.

In our loss to Cincy no one was under 97.


Yay for balance.
 
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Originally posted by The Duff Man
Slinky ended the game at 66 moral. With high confidence and going 6 for 7 with a huge game tieing bomb.

Just one more thing about GLB that is messed up.


LOL...fuck any idiots who invested mightily in confidence.
 
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I just checked our moral, yeah I don't buy the moral spiral at all. Moral has been screwed up since day 1 probably, which is why a lot of players don't invest in confidence.

ONE defender on our team ended up with moral less than 100. And he finished at 99. Every other defender on our team had moral of 100.

Offense is a different story, but I have noticed that all season. Defense never loses moral. In our loss to GB we had one guy under 95.

In our loss to Cincy no one was under 97.


What was Slinky's morale? I know he would have great games during the season and end up with like 50 morale.
What did he end up with this game?



I could be mistaken but isn't there a system similar to energy where two morale bars are used? One being the max morale(what we see in the summary report) and the other the much more fluid effective morale (highly subject to in game momentum shifts)?

As I said earlier you deserved the win, the name of the game is to use the tools Bort makes available to us and you utilized those to the fullest. We did the same thing on MEM for most of last season by running the Strong I virtually every down. Right now I'm just trying to clarify a point, I'm definitely not trying to belittle your accomplishment.

That said I really don't think that people understand fully just how much of a role morale plays in the momentum shifts in this game. You must have noticed how many remarkable 4th quarter comebacks you've made this season, there were definitely enough that we can rule out the RNG or luck element. Or is there another reason I'm missing?
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Originally posted by The Duff Man

Slinky ended the game at 66 moral. With high confidence and going 6 for 7 with a huge game tieing bomb.

Just one more thing about GLB that is messed up.


He did get sacked on the final possession, but then converted a 3rd and 13 on the very next play.
 
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Slinky ended the game at 66 moral. With high confidence and going 6 for 7 with a huge game tieing bomb.

Just one more thing about GLB that is messed up.


He did get sacked on the final possession, but then converted a 3rd and 13 on the very next play.



When we got inside the 10 in OT, Slinky went back into the game.
I was like "KICK!!! KICK THE FUCKING FG!!!"

Reason: Slinky only had 3 or 4 INT's all season Most were returned for TD's.
I was so relieved to hand off to Big Shirley. Thanks to Duff for that.


 
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One of the common themes in our 4th quarter comebacks has been the ability of our defense to make huge plays late.

I don't know how moral effects that. It could also be that teams are using a more conservative gameplan in the 4th, and my defense is set up to stop a conservative gameplan if we are trailing in the 4th.

Against MEM in the 4th
Punt
Punt
FG
INT (short possession at the very end)

Against MEM in tournament
Long TD play to start the 4th
Punt
Punt
FG
Pick 6

Against GB
Punt
Punt
FG
Punt
Pick 6
FG
Punt

Against Dryden - we didn't come all the way back
Punt
FG
Punt
Punt
Punt

Running the scout for these 4 games, here are the numbers our defense gave up in the 4th quarter.
Yards per play 3.65, total of 300 yards allowed in 4 games
Rushing 4.61 ypc against
Passing 8 for 39, 21%

In our two games against MEM we held you to 3 of 18 in the 4th quarter. A bunch of 3 and outs and your defense was right back on the field.
 
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