Warrior General Games

Originally posted by mmuhr
Originally posted by randomguymike

100 speed, 80 agi with solid first step will get you toasted in the Pros like a black salt bagel.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=662406&pbp_id=639408

that looks like a vision problem on the CB. whats the vision at?

80 with 9 SV.

which also gets you this beauty, which is vision. Guess I need to get that to 100 too. Argh.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=662406&pbp_id=637646

I mean you get beat sometimes. Theres nothing you can do to prevent getting beat once in a while.

Originally posted by mmuhr
I mean you get beat sometimes. Theres nothing you can do to prevent getting beat once in a while.

Unless you have 105+ speed.

Originally posted by randomguymike
100 speed, 80 agi with solid first step will get you toasted in the Pros like a black salt bagel.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=662406&pbp_id=639408

Sorry all I see here is a CB getting beat by a fake, thats it. Beeing burned by Speed means the CB can't keep up with the receiver and he even got a shot at the tackle but he falls down.

Originally posted by Mightyhalo
Originally posted by mmuhr

I mean you get beat sometimes. Theres nothing you can do to prevent getting beat once in a while.

Unless you have 105+ speed.

So you think this play would have been broken up if the Cb had 105+ speed? Explain why....

I can tell you why I think it doesnt matter: After he took a wrong step he lost all of his momentum, the receiver didnt.

Originally posted by Siddharta
Originally posted by Mightyhalo

Originally posted by mmuhr


I mean you get beat sometimes. Theres nothing you can do to prevent getting beat once in a while.

Unless you have 105+ speed.

So you think this play would have been broken up if the Cb had 105+ speed? Explain why....



I just couldn't resist.

That play was all just you getting juked out of your pants. It happens to all of us no matter the vision or SV at some point in time.

After reading this from start to finish I have something to say...
I will not be taking any build advice from Underdogs at all.
that being said, I have heard many times that going above 100 was wasteful, unless you are o-line or DT, and I have incorporated that into my build strategies. It makes sense that you would be sacrificing way too much in your other very important atty's and S.A.'s. I made the grave mistake of Bad Building my first player... "Tiny" LaRue. My mistake was entirely arrogance. Any other builds for my future I have stood on the shoulders of those that came before me, agents like longhornfan ( *wipes brown smudge from nose*). I have seen game recaps of WRs with speed well above 100 not getting free, and could only assume that the CBs were able to keep up because getting above 100 doesn't help much. I have only 1 CB above level 6 (he is at 54 speed and 41 agility and 39 vision without eq) I had to balance his build because we wanted to get a playoff spot and move up, but at this point I will be focusing back on speed / agility to make him compete in seasons to come. Thank you all for alot of very good input and good luck in the pros Underdogs

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
That play was all just you getting juked out of your pants. It happens to all of us no matter the vision or SV at some point in time.

Nah

Originally posted by randomguymike
Originally posted by mmuhr

Originally posted by randomguymike


100 speed, 80 agi with solid first step will get you toasted in the Pros like a black salt bagel.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=662406&pbp_id=639408

that looks like a vision problem on the CB. whats the vision at?

80 with 9 SV.

which also gets you this beauty, which is vision. Guess I need to get that to 100 too. Argh.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=662406&pbp_id=637646

Not very likely and quite frankly hard to believe. 100 speed, 80 agility and 80 vision PLUS a shitload of points invested in SA´s (think of eyerolling/lmao - smiley right here) all in one lvl 62 player? Open the build please as I think you are a big big liar. LMAO

It's possible. I've seen safeties with similar attributes. Usually sacrifices somewhere else like catching, strength, tackling, or something like that

Could also be adv eq

Originally posted by cornerbackX24
Originally posted by randomguymike

Originally posted by mmuhr


Originally posted by randomguymike



100 speed, 80 agi with solid first step will get you toasted in the Pros like a black salt bagel.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=662406&pbp_id=639408

that looks like a vision problem on the CB. whats the vision at?

80 with 9 SV.

which also gets you this beauty, which is vision. Guess I need to get that to 100 too. Argh.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=662406&pbp_id=637646

Not very likely and quite frankly hard to believe. 100 speed, 80 agility and 80 vision PLUS a shitload of points invested in SA´s (think of eyerolling/lmao - smiley right here) all in one lvl 62 player? Open the build please as I think you are a big big liar. LMAO



**edited to fix the damn quotes**

Fine, I rounded at 98.4 for speed. You caught me. Seriously, though, only speed is above 70.5 natural. Not sure why it is hard to believe. Do the math.

My equip has +44 attributes (2 standard=+16, 1 custom=6, 2 AEQ=22).
15 Football genius is in the calc too (+5.2).

Originally posted by chronoaug
It's possible. I've seen safeties with similar attributes. Usually sacrifices somewhere else like catching, strength, tackling, or something like that

confidence/tackling.

Originally posted by randomguymike
Originally posted by mmuhr

Originally posted by randomguymike


100 speed, 80 agi with solid first step will get you toasted in the Pros like a black salt bagel.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=662406&pbp_id=639408

that looks like a vision problem on the CB. whats the vision at?

80 with 9 SV.

which also gets you this beauty, which is vision. Guess I need to get that to 100 too. Argh.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=662406&pbp_id=637646

this certainly proves you should lower your speed to 90-95. This makes the argument win. No need for 100+ speed. This is the gem that proves it.