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Hukton Vioxx
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I think the problem may be more fourth and short is too easy to pick up (not fourth and inches...fourth and short), so 2.5 yards per carry is really all you need...you don't even have to be very good at it to have an effective power running game. Of course, this problem existed last season as well, but now everyone knows about it.

Overpowerd blocking is as much the problem as power backs. It may not be massively overpowered for each calculation, but when you consider how many blocks are going on each play...

There is also the problem with specialized TEs that the LBs have to cover so that if they put enough points in strength/tackling to be able to tackle power backs well they will not be able to keep up.
 
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Originally posted by ddingo
Originally posted by xcoach2

Originally posted by vgaff


It's not about a nerf it's about exploiting the fact that there are no injuries or residual effects of overuse.




The same exploit is available to your team, lord knows ya'll took advantage of the power back exploit in S7. How many times did Shonn Greene bail out the Navs after breaking multiple tackles in the backfield that should have been negative plays? Don't hate because we "oneupped" you in the exploit game, STFU and adjust your builds. More stamina, more confidence, more Motiv. Speaker VA, dotcetera.

/thread


http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=288620

Greene has max Short Yardage Specialist so he can plow through the hopped up crack fiends who rush through the line with their weak ass arm tackles. He should also have softcapped kicking by the playoffs so he doesn't get too tired from kicking all that Monkey ass.


+1

 
jfbueno
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Originally posted by djgomez33
Originally posted by ddingo

Originally posted by xcoach2


Originally posted by vgaff



It's not about a nerf it's about exploiting the fact that there are no injuries or residual effects of overuse.




The same exploit is available to your team, lord knows ya'll took advantage of the power back exploit in S7. How many times did Shonn Greene bail out the Navs after breaking multiple tackles in the backfield that should have been negative plays? Don't hate because we "oneupped" you in the exploit game, STFU and adjust your builds. More stamina, more confidence, more Motiv. Speaker VA, dotcetera.

/thread


http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=288620

Greene has max Short Yardage Specialist so he can plow through the hopped up crack fiends who rush through the line with their weak ass arm tackles. He should also have softcapped kicking by the playoffs so he doesn't get too tired from kicking all that Monkey ass.


+1



In the playoffs, just like last season right?
 
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Originally posted by jfbueno
Originally posted by djgomez33

Originally posted by ddingo


Originally posted by xcoach2



Originally posted by vgaff




It's not about a nerf it's about exploiting the fact that there are no injuries or residual effects of overuse.




The same exploit is available to your team, lord knows ya'll took advantage of the power back exploit in S7. How many times did Shonn Greene bail out the Navs after breaking multiple tackles in the backfield that should have been negative plays? Don't hate because we "oneupped" you in the exploit game, STFU and adjust your builds. More stamina, more confidence, more Motiv. Speaker VA, dotcetera.

/thread


http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=288620

Greene has max Short Yardage Specialist so he can plow through the hopped up crack fiends who rush through the line with their weak ass arm tackles. He should also have softcapped kicking by the playoffs so he doesn't get too tired from kicking all that Monkey ass.


+1



In the playoffs, just like last season right?


I miss your point? You lost in the second round as well. However, that isn't really relevant either. The point is his kicking is not at 60 yet, but should be by the time playoffs roll around. I wouldn't expect you to understand, it takes intelligence/comprehension.
 
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Originally posted by djgomez33
Originally posted by jfbueno

Originally posted by djgomez33


Originally posted by ddingo



Originally posted by xcoach2




Originally posted by vgaff





It's not about a nerf it's about exploiting the fact that there are no injuries or residual effects of overuse.




The same exploit is available to your team, lord knows ya'll took advantage of the power back exploit in S7. How many times did Shonn Greene bail out the Navs after breaking multiple tackles in the backfield that should have been negative plays? Don't hate because we "oneupped" you in the exploit game, STFU and adjust your builds. More stamina, more confidence, more Motiv. Speaker VA, dotcetera.

/thread


http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=288620

Greene has max Short Yardage Specialist so he can plow through the hopped up crack fiends who rush through the line with their weak ass arm tackles. He should also have softcapped kicking by the playoffs so he doesn't get too tired from kicking all that Monkey ass.


+1



In the playoffs, just like last season right?


I miss your point? You lost in the second round as well. However, that isn't really relevant either. The point is his kicking is not at 60 yet, but should be by the time playoffs roll around. I wouldn't expect you to understand, it takes intelligence/comprehension.


Baitting=fail
 
djgomez33
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Originally posted by jfbueno
Originally posted by djgomez33

Originally posted by jfbueno


Originally posted by djgomez33



Originally posted by ddingo




Originally posted by xcoach2





Originally posted by vgaff






It's not about a nerf it's about exploiting the fact that there are no injuries or residual effects of overuse.




The same exploit is available to your team, lord knows ya'll took advantage of the power back exploit in S7. How many times did Shonn Greene bail out the Navs after breaking multiple tackles in the backfield that should have been negative plays? Don't hate because we "oneupped" you in the exploit game, STFU and adjust your builds. More stamina, more confidence, more Motiv. Speaker VA, dotcetera.

/thread


http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=288620

Greene has max Short Yardage Specialist so he can plow through the hopped up crack fiends who rush through the line with their weak ass arm tackles. He should also have softcapped kicking by the playoffs so he doesn't get too tired from kicking all that Monkey ass.


+1



In the playoffs, just like last season right?


I miss your point? You lost in the second round as well. However, that isn't really relevant either. The point is his kicking is not at 60 yet, but should be by the time playoffs roll around. I wouldn't expect you to understand, it takes intelligence/comprehension.


Baitting=fail


You = Fail

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/baitting?qsrc=2888

 
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Originally posted by Hukton Vioxx

There is also the problem with specialized TEs that the LBs have to cover so that if they put enough points in strength/tackling to be able to tackle power backs well they will not be able to keep up.


That is a big problem for defense. The offense can put in a blocking TE for running plays and a receiving TE for passing plays. The LOLB pretty much have to be able to play the run and defend the pass.
 
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Originally posted by djgomez33
Originally posted by jfbueno

Originally posted by djgomez33


Originally posted by jfbueno



Originally posted by djgomez33




Originally posted by ddingo





Originally posted by xcoach2






Originally posted by vgaff







It's not about a nerf it's about exploiting the fact that there are no injuries or residual effects of overuse.




The same exploit is available to your team, lord knows ya'll took advantage of the power back exploit in S7. How many times did Shonn Greene bail out the Navs after breaking multiple tackles in the backfield that should have been negative plays? Don't hate because we "oneupped" you in the exploit game, STFU and adjust your builds. More stamina, more confidence, more Motiv. Speaker VA, dotcetera.

/thread


http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=288620

Greene has max Short Yardage Specialist so he can plow through the hopped up crack fiends who rush through the line with their weak ass arm tackles. He should also have softcapped kicking by the playoffs so he doesn't get too tired from kicking all that Monkey ass.


+1



In the playoffs, just like last season right?


I miss your point? You lost in the second round as well. However, that isn't really relevant either. The point is his kicking is not at 60 yet, but should be by the time playoffs roll around. I wouldn't expect you to understand, it takes intelligence/comprehension.


Baitting=fail


You = Fail

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/baitting?qsrc=2888



Grammar Nazi FTW
 
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Originally posted by datongw
Originally posted by Hukton Vioxx


There is also the problem with specialized TEs that the LBs have to cover so that if they put enough points in strength/tackling to be able to tackle power backs well they will not be able to keep up.


That is a big problem for defense. The offense can put in a blocking TE for running plays and a receiving TE for passing plays. The LOLB pretty much have to be able to play the run and defend the pass.


Why does everyone seem to think this is a problem? Everyone seems to think there should be the perfect LB - able to cover WRs and bring down powerbacks on the same play.
 
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Originally posted by Clinton Esquire
Originally posted by datongw

Originally posted by Hukton Vioxx



There is also the problem with specialized TEs that the LBs have to cover so that if they put enough points in strength/tackling to be able to tackle power backs well they will not be able to keep up.


That is a big problem for defense. The offense can put in a blocking TE for running plays and a receiving TE for passing plays. The LOLB pretty much have to be able to play the run and defend the pass.


Why does everyone seem to think this is a problem? Everyone seems to think there should be the perfect LB - able to cover WRs and bring down powerbacks on the same play.


Because that's what they're asked to do in GLB.

 
datongw
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Originally posted by Clinton Esquire
Originally posted by datongw

Originally posted by Hukton Vioxx



There is also the problem with specialized TEs that the LBs have to cover so that if they put enough points in strength/tackling to be able to tackle power backs well they will not be able to keep up.


That is a big problem for defense. The offense can put in a blocking TE for running plays and a receiving TE for passing plays. The LOLB pretty much have to be able to play the run and defend the pass.


Why does everyone seem to think this is a problem? Everyone seems to think there should be the perfect LB - able to cover WRs and bring down powerbacks on the same play.


No I don't think LB should be able to do all that, I'm just saying the offense has an edge to use specialized players where the defenses can't. It would be nice if we have the choice of doing the depth chart by match ups. If a receiving TE is in the game, put in the coverage LB.
 
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Originally posted by jfbueno
Originally posted by djgomez33

Originally posted by jfbueno


Originally posted by djgomez33



Originally posted by jfbueno




Originally posted by djgomez33





Originally posted by ddingo






Originally posted by xcoach2







Originally posted by vgaff








It's not about a nerf it's about exploiting the fact that there are no injuries or residual effects of overuse.




The same exploit is available to your team, lord knows ya'll took advantage of the power back exploit in S7. How many times did Shonn Greene bail out the Navs after breaking multiple tackles in the backfield that should have been negative plays? Don't hate because we "oneupped" you in the exploit game, STFU and adjust your builds. More stamina, more confidence, more Motiv. Speaker VA, dotcetera.

/thread


http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=288620

Greene has max Short Yardage Specialist so he can plow through the hopped up crack fiends who rush through the line with their weak ass arm tackles. He should also have softcapped kicking by the playoffs so he doesn't get too tired from kicking all that Monkey ass.


+1



In the playoffs, just like last season right?


I miss your point? You lost in the second round as well. However, that isn't really relevant either. The point is his kicking is not at 60 yet, but should be by the time playoffs roll around. I wouldn't expect you to understand, it takes intelligence/comprehension.


Baitting=fail


You = Fail

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/baitting?qsrc=2888



CompetentGrammar Nazi FTW


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kr0n
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Originally posted by McGrai37
Originally posted by Clinton Esquire

Originally posted by datongw


Originally posted by Hukton Vioxx




There is also the problem with specialized TEs that the LBs have to cover so that if they put enough points in strength/tackling to be able to tackle power backs well they will not be able to keep up.


That is a big problem for defense. The offense can put in a blocking TE for running plays and a receiving TE for passing plays. The LOLB pretty much have to be able to play the run and defend the pass.


Why does everyone seem to think this is a problem? Everyone seems to think there should be the perfect LB - able to cover WRs and bring down powerbacks on the same play.


Because that's what they're asked to do in GLB.



With the current passing in GLB, I'd rather load up on tackling/strength to stop the run tbh. Screw the TE.
 
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We need LOLB1, LOLB2, MLB1, MLB2, ROLB1 and ROLB2 depth charts.
 
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Originally posted by kr0n
Originally posted by McGrai37

Originally posted by Clinton Esquire


Originally posted by datongw



Originally posted by Hukton Vioxx





There is also the problem with specialized TEs that the LBs have to cover so that if they put enough points in strength/tackling to be able to tackle power backs well they will not be able to keep up.


That is a big problem for defense. The offense can put in a blocking TE for running plays and a receiving TE for passing plays. The LOLB pretty much have to be able to play the run and defend the pass.


Why does everyone seem to think this is a problem? Everyone seems to think there should be the perfect LB - able to cover WRs and bring down powerbacks on the same play.


Because that's what they're asked to do in GLB.



With the current passing in GLB, I'd rather load up on tackling/strength to stop the run tbh. Screw the TE.


Sure, but what happens when Bort fixes the passing game? Then all the LBs will be slow and they'll get killed by speedy TEs and elusive RBs.
 
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