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Originally posted by AnTiNiNjA
By the time they unsticky this is will be the premier build due to nerfs...


From the not-so-distant past....

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Last edited Jan 1, 2009 23:32:08
 
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Originally posted by tautology
Originally posted by AnTiNiNjA

By the time they unsticky this is will be the premier build due to nerfs...


From the not-so-distant past....

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lol...yep this build is now the way to go...
 
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Ha, looks like I'll follow this guide for my guy from now on.

Currently slow building a DE right now.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1111591

Training agility + stamina.

Also, I made this player before any of the "nerfs" for speed/agility DEs, so I sort of thought I was crazy at first but I'm thinking that I can become effective soon enough.
 
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Originally posted by Jagmind
Ha, looks like I'll follow this guide for my guy from now on.

Currently slow building a DE right now.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1111591

Training agility + stamina.

Also, I made this player before any of the "nerfs" for speed/agility DEs, so I sort of thought I was crazy at first but I'm thinking that I can become effective soon enough.


not really
speed de are still doing well
 
Jagmind
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But they're down graded. I didn't say they have been completely shutdown.

Besides, there's more than one way to build now.
 
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Originally posted by Jagmind
But they're down graded. I didn't say they have been completely shutdown.

Besides, there's more than one way to build now.


everyone on the d-line is getting downgraded. Bort wants to see spectacular d.e's get no more than like 20 sacks a season.
 
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Originally posted by Jagmind
Ha, looks like I'll follow this guide for my guy from now on.

Currently slow building a DE right now.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1111591

Training agility + stamina.

Also, I made this player before any of the "nerfs" for speed/agility DEs, so I sort of thought I was crazy at first but I'm thinking that I can become effective soon enough.


Yep you are definitely pumping str first on that guy.
 
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This is so stupid. Bort has completely taken away everything from DE's. Question: who wins when a level 40 LDE and a level 24 ROT go head to head? Yeah you got it the ROT. Total B.S.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=315507&pbp_id=6689432

Here's Kerney's build just in case everyone thinks his builds sucks. Granted I have seen better builds however his build should be OWNING a level 24 ROT. I don't mind Kerney getting taking out of a play when the OLINE is close in levels. But this is stupid. Makes me want to retire him.

Oh I almost forgot the best part. Kerney's stats for this game: 0 tackles, 1 hurry. Pathetic.

Physical Attributes Football Skills

Strength: 60.29 Blocking:22.24
Speed: 73.27 Tackling:42.08
Agility: 89.4 Throwing:8
Jumping:20.43 Catching:9
Stamina:42.66 Carrying:9
Vision:48.14 Kicking:10
Confidence:31.79 Punting:9

5 4 7 6 1




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Originally posted by SEAHKFN
This is so stupid. Bort has completely taken away everything from DE's. Question: who wins when a level 40 LDE and a level 24 ROT go head to head? Yeah you got it the ROT. Total B.S.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=315507&pbp_id=6689432

Here's Kerney's build just in case everyone thinks his builds sucks. Granted I have seen better builds however his build should be OWNING a level 24 ROT. I don't mind Kerney getting taking out of a play when the OLINE is close in levels. But this is stupid. Makes me want to retire him.

Oh I almost forgot the best part. Kerney's stats for this game: 0 tackles, 1 hurry. Pathetic.

Physical Attributes Football Skills

Strength: 60.29 Blocking:22.24
Speed: 73.27 Tackling:42.08
Agility: 89.4 Throwing:8
Jumping:20.43 Catching:9
Stamina:42.66 Carrying:9
Vision:48.14 Kicking:10
Confidence:31.79 Punting:9

5 4 7 6 1



You blew out the other team and the blowout nerf kicked in. This isn't anything new.

When you blow out teams like that, you have to get your numbers before the nerf kicks in. Otherwise, you're screwed.
 
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You're de is not that good and your build isn't that great either. The tackle might have very high blocking or strength. Who knows.



QUOTE=SEAHKFN]This is so stupid. Bort has completely taken away everything from DE's. Question: who wins when a level 40 LDE and a level 24 ROT go head to head? Yeah you got it the ROT. Total B.S.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=315507&pbp_id=6689432

Here's Kerney's build just in case everyone thinks his builds sucks. Granted I have seen better builds however his build should be OWNING a level 24 ROT. I don't mind Kerney getting taking out of a play when the OLINE is close in levels. But this is stupid. Makes me want to retire him.

Oh I almost forgot the best part. Kerney's stats for this game: 0 tackles, 1 hurry. Pathetic.

Physical Attributes Football Skills

Strength: 60.29 Blocking:22.24
Speed: 73.27 Tackling:42.08
Agility: 89.4 Throwing:8
Jumping:20.43 Catching:9
Stamina:42.66 Carrying:9
Vision:48.14 Kicking:10
Confidence:31.79 Punting:9

5 4 7 6 1






 
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You blew out the other team and the blowout nerf kicked in. This isn't anything new.

When you blow out teams like that, you have to get your numbers before the nerf kicks in. Otherwise, you're screwed.[/QUOTE

I understand what you are saying about the blowout nerf however the play I showed was in the first quarter at the 11:11 mark with a 7-0 lead. No way the nerf had kicked in that soon. As for Kerney's build, I already stated that his was not the best out there however when you have a 16 level advantage I find it a bit ridiculous that he can't get around a level 24 OT. Again stupid...

 
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Originally posted by
I understand what you are saying about the blowout nerf however the play I showed was in the first quarter at the 11:11 mark with a 7-0 lead. No way the nerf had kicked in that soon. As for Kerney's build, I already stated that his was not the best out there however when you have a 16 level advantage I find it a bit ridiculous that he can't get around a level 24 OT. Again stupid...


You can't expect to get a sack on every play. That means you'd get like 60 sacks a game, lol. It's very likely that later in the game you would have started to compound plenty of sacks, at random intervals. But the nerf kicked in, and like I said, unless you are lucky enough to get your numbers in the early series of blowout wins, you're basically rolling a dice the rest of the way.

Here is a perfect example.

My DE Manny Calavera vs. a Lvl.1 gutted team.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=326271

He finished with 1 sack and 1 hurry against a team that threw the ball 115 times.

If you watch the play by play, this is because another DE of mine, Grueso, was breaking free on all the plays he was early in the game, beating him to the sack or hurry. Usually this isn't a problem, because it balances out as the game goes on, but because the nerf kicked in by the end of the first quarter, he was hopeless the rest of the game to compound any kind of stats, meanwhile the player opposite of him put up 11 sacks, with like 8 of them before the nerf. These players are built almost exactly the same.

You have to get your numbers early in blowouts, or you wont get much at all most of the time unfortunately.
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Originally posted by SEAHKFN
This is so stupid. Bort has completely taken away everything from DE's. Question: who wins when a level 40 LDE and a level 24 ROT go head to head? Yeah you got it the ROT. Total B.S.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=315507&pbp_id=6689432

Here's Kerney's build just in case everyone thinks his builds sucks. Granted I have seen better builds however his build should be OWNING a level 24 ROT. I don't mind Kerney getting taking out of a play when the OLINE is close in levels. But this is stupid. Makes me want to retire him.

Oh I almost forgot the best part. Kerney's stats for this game: 0 tackles, 1 hurry. Pathetic.

Physical Attributes Football Skills

Strength: 60.29 Blocking:22.24
Speed: 73.27 Tackling:42.08
Agility: 89.4 Throwing:8
Jumping:20.43 Catching:9
Stamina:42.66 Carrying:9
Vision:48.14 Kicking:10
Confidence:31.79 Punting:9

5 4 7 6 1






What exactly are your expectations....you have 14 sacks in 9 games, with a very average DE build.
 
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Being tied for 2nd in sacks in his conference, and 9th in his league just isn't good enough, I guess. I think he's probably doing great considering his build. What's funny is that he is doing pretty well, is having his best season (other than his ratio of hurries to sacks is down, but his overall numbers are up), and he's calling BS?

I can almost understand if a 60-80 sack speed/agility DE from the last season or 2 was bitching about a nerf, but this player???

 
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Originally posted by AnTiNiNjA
By the time they unsticky this is will be the premier build due to nerfs...


Third time I have quoted this....it just get's more true each time
 
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