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nexill
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Lol, this isn't true.

He was just an admin who had a secret employee account which did OK. I'm pretty sure the dots weren't especially top tier.


This is what I remember as well
 
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the better Catch22 scandal was when he got blindside fired and went scorched earth

holy shit the forums went stoopy
 
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Originally posted by nexill
This is what I remember as well


IMO... It wasn't that the builds were maximum math EL good, it's that he had unlimited access to the test server, and all the inside information about SAs VAs and whatever else. He pretty much single handedly decided the Confidence/Pressure/INT curve for QBs.

At the time, the dots always out performed what their EL should have done.


The meta has changed a lot since then though. That's what, 15 actual years ago?
 
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MAN O MAN TRYING TO READ THRU THIS SHIT MAKES ME WANT TO USE CAPS AND HET DRUNK...OOF Wait lmao sorry. anyhoo yup karma is a bitch while i do not spend the time like ryan tom g75 zz ect.. into game planning i do spend my life saving into this game since 2008 ( i know what am I doing ) so stupid but i love the game and like the fellas to have fun. now pawned /koo and rest of those lil dykes have found a way to ruin a wet dream, now they are gone so lets get back to what we all do best drink beer and dot ball. lets make season 118 great and have some good time.
 
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Originally posted by TJ Spikes
IMO... It wasn't that the builds were maximum math EL good, it's that he had unlimited access to the test server, and all the inside information about SAs VAs and whatever else. He pretty much single handedly decided the Confidence/Pressure/INT curve for QBs.

At the time, the dots always out performed what their EL should have done.


The meta has changed a lot since then though. That's what, 15 actual years ago?


I remember that second part with the test server which gave him the ability to set every player's attributes to see how every mechanic worked in the game against any setting. That level of ability made him playing the game unfair to everyone else especially an undercover multi which was still against the rules even back then
 
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Lol, this isn't true.

He was just an admin who had a secret employee account which did OK. I'm pretty sure the dots weren't especially top tier.


Jdbolick was convinced that the math on Cernet's builds wasn't attainable. I was in several private forums back when that took place.
 
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Originally posted by Daedalus
HoF list about to get a serious revamp!?


The HOF has never been an accurate measure of a dot's impact.
 
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So The Mob's high player turnover every season is part of the smoke screen?
 
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Originally posted by lardaddy
the better Catch22 scandal was when he got blindside fired and went scorched earth

holy shit the forums went stoopy


Man, those were the days



Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Jdbolick was convinced that the math on Cernet's builds wasn't attainable. I was in several private forums back when that took place.


Oh, interesting. I had never heard that (but I believe you).

I was fairly active at that time but it was a long time ago. But I remember it being more of a scandal just because he shouldn't have had a secret account where he had an unfair advantage, and less that he successfully impacted the balance of the game.

But either way, all cheating shouldn't happen, so I'm glad we can put this behind us.


 
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I still have no idea what is going on....
 
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Interesting mess...
Edited by BLARYPALOOZA on Dec 17, 2025 07:23:53
 
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Originally posted by BLARYPALOOZA
I still have no idea what is going on....


People who were way too good turns out were cheating. Partly due to a bug with double equipment but likely other things as well.

This could have been prevented had Bort/DD fixed known bugs.

That’s all you really need to know.
 
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Speaking of know bugs. Isn’t there one related to passing?
 
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This offseason is going to be so long
 
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Originally posted by vjburnette
This offseason is going to be so long


day 0 should be Sunday or Monday if I were to guess
Edited by coachingubigr on Dec 17, 2025 08:37:05
 
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