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RiverRat2
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Originally posted by tpaterniti
Why wouldn't you basically want twice as many players for the same price? Or you could make the same number for half the cost. At the rate GLB is going, what is the point of a huge flex return? You are essentially saying, I'll sacrifice a lot of enjoyment now making 20 players for the ability to have half that enjoyment, 10 players, every season. If you like fewer players, then you are not spending that much flex anyway and could have those fewer for half the cost.

For the formations, I don't think 15 plays is a lot. You kind of need a certain number per formation, like an inside run, outside run, some short, medium and long passes and so on. Otherwise the formation is pointless because DCs know that if you use it they can expect a limited number of plays. I don't think it would be that hard to add one formation and 10-15 plays in one season (60 days of real time). That's about one play a week to program. I can pretty much assure you OCs are not going to be upset at more plays. Right now most OCs are done with the game because it is so stale. There is nothing new to experiment with or do because the plays have not changed in so long. Just ask OCs what they think and they will confirm what I am saying.


Some people don't wamt the game to change it would force them to learn new things.
 
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Originally posted by tpaterniti
Why wouldn't you basically want twice as many players for the same price? Or you could make the same number for half the cost. At the rate GLB is going, what is the point of a huge flex return? You are essentially saying, I'll sacrifice a lot of enjoyment now making 20 players for the ability to have half that enjoyment, 10 players, every season. If you like fewer players, then you are not spending that much flex anyway and could have those fewer for half the cost.

For the formations, I don't think 15 plays is a lot. You kind of need a certain number per formation, like an inside run, outside run, some short, medium and long passes and so on. Otherwise the formation is pointless because DCs know that if you use it they can expect a limited number of plays. I don't think it would be that hard to add one formation and 10-15 plays in one season (60 days of real time). That's about one play a week to program. I can pretty much assure you OCs are not going to be upset at more plays. Right now most OCs are done with the game because it is so stale. There is nothing new to experiment with or do because the plays have not changed in so long. Just ask OCs what they think and they will confirm what I am saying.


http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5193500
 
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Originally posted by Bane
yea,it would upset DC's (I DC)


Add one input for a new formation. you have to think about the greater good of the game, not just trying to be as good as you can be now. Your defense may need to adjust, but so will the defense you're playing, and the new formation or play could really favor your personnel.
 
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55 dots on 32 teams in a Pro League, WL and Casual Pro league ...........7020 dots. Lmao, how many CPU feeder teams are in those minors.......the game is 101 percent dead in 2.5 seasons or there will be 1 Pro league feeding a WL and no casual at all or half CPU teams at every level unless the top levels can create insta-79 dots. Game is dead otherwise, that is a reality in 150 days from now.
 
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Originally posted by RiverRat2
If you player is level 5 today this game won't last until he is 79.




It'll probably be around until he is level 79, but it just won't be worth watching until he's level 60ish, at best. The minors suck--I get so little out of watching the game there.
 
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Originally posted by The Avenger
55 dots on 32 teams in a Pro League, WL and Casual Pro league ...........7020 dots. Lmao, how many CPU feeder teams are in those minors.......the game is 101 percent dead in 2.5 seasons or there will be 1 Pro league feeding a WL and no casual at all or half CPU teams at every level unless the top levels can create insta-79 dots. Game is dead otherwise, that is a reality in 150 days from now.


Game is doing pretty well down in the minors. A lot of people are enjoying the no/no underground leagues.

 
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I'd have no problem with insta 79's, but there HAS to be a slight penalty besides higher flex cost for the instant gratification IMO. Instant dots should not be able to be as good as those that take the time to build there.

And if that happens with a penalty, no one would build instants anyhow.
 
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Originally posted by sunder B


And if that happens with a penalty, no one would build instants anyhow.


You just described why they're can't be a penalty.

 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
You just described why they're can't be a penalty.


But there has to be a penalty for the instant gratification. I prefer a "small" SP penalty compared to some being suggested at 10-15%. That is too high IMO, but I think 5% (maybe even 2%) would be a good balance for those that want the instant gratification, or can't fill a team through recruiting and desperately need human dots. There will be those that build them with small penalties.


Another option that could be good for GLB (or really bad - if people just use it to dump flex) would be to offer no refunded flex on retirement for instant 79's and you can't use your free dot for an instant dot. No SP penalty, but a huge flex hit for the instant gratification. There will be plenty with deep pockets, or loads of flex to burn that will partake, but it would kind of be a "rich getting richer" scenerio.
 
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Originally posted by sunder B

But there has to be a penalty for the instant gratification.


I'm not sure there does, at least not anymore. "Give the customer what they want" is often quoted business adage. If a significant chunk of the flex buyers prefer to get a finished product and pay for it all at once, what's the problem with giving that customer segment what they want?
 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
I'm not sure there does, at least not anymore. "Give the customer what they want" is often quoted business adage. If a significant chunk of the flex buyers prefer to get a finished product and pay for it all at once, what's the problem with giving that customer segment what they want?


there would HAVE to be a penalty. More than just 1 evenOriginally posted by Bane

Originally posted by Bane


insta 79's would get a 15% nerf to all major ALG attributes and a 10% nerf to the minor attributes once you hit the "submit" button to build, have a cap on how many SP's can be spent in SA trees, and a reduced amount of VA points to spend(8 fewer than dots built over time)




somebody willing to take the long ass time and effort it takes to build a dot from rookie to lvl79 deserves to be rewarded with a better dot than somebody that just drops a chunk of flex and follows a particular build process using a VPB and hits submit.

Everyone crying that there is no young dots to feed the future WL teams need to man up and start building some dots.
Give some of the customers what they want (insta79's) and you punish the other customers that enjoy building a dot from rookie to pro(yes they exist, just cause they don't post in forums does not make them extinct).
Not only that, but all we would have is all these lvl79's be built EXACTLY the same. Spending the time to take a dot from rookie to pro allows possibilities to mess up along the way. Everyone asking for insta 79 is just wanting it the easy way. Well if you want it the easy way you should be penalized for getting it while the ones doing it the more difficult and traditional way should not be. Call it a reward for taking the time and effort to build a dot for MONTHS.

Next thing people are gonna demand is a script so they can just click a button and *POOF* there is their lvl79 1550SPV pHB. That is not gonna help make this game better again, it will just kill it faster.
Edited by Bane on Sep 2, 2014 16:22:00
 
Dub J
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Why should Bort put in the effort to speed dots along to the most boring part of their career? A 15 season plateau? ohlolol



 
RiverRat2
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If I could build insta 79s with no penalty I would buy more flex.
As it stands now it is NGTH.
How is that hurting the game?
 
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How about insta-L73's?
 
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Originally posted by DiMo28
How about insta-L73's?


How about insta any lvl you wanted?

lets say 3 agents on your team go awol...each has a dot on the team.

You don't care, because you can create a dot to replace them.
Edited by BadBuc99 on Sep 2, 2014 17:14:29
 
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