Warrior General Games

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
Although pro level should be the focus it shouldn't suck ass on the way up. Some peewee squads boost and rent EQ season after season and deserve to at least be relevant in the eyes of admin.

Pretty much this exactly. Back when PW was really popular it was 10x more expensive than playing in the regular leagues and a constant neglect from GLB administration drove many agents away along with rookie leagues.

Right now I'm spending over 45k flex a season just on Pee Wee dots (Before the 70% return). I doubt there are many if any regular league agents that spend anywhere near that amount unless they own 55+ boosting/custom dots.

There are guys in Pee Wee that have been spending over 45k flex a season on one and done dots for 20+ seasons. Wouldn't you want to see some kind of support from GLB administration if you are spending that much a season on flex?

Even though CE rental was introduced PW is still way too overpriced for me to even consider boosting. Only way I would boost PW dots is if it were my free dots or I was planning on quitting GLB and wanted to burn quickly through my flex.

Originally posted by Honey Badger
I think it is also due in part to a confusion from both sides. Pee Wee agents don't really know how the sim is at level 79 and many upper level pro and WL agents don't pay enough attention at low levels to know how the sim acts down there for us.

It isn't confusion from our side at all. We have players from rookie to pro. We know what every level of the game entails. The confusion generally is due in part to guys who only play lower levels not understanding that the game revolves around pro. That isn't me being an elitist. That isn't glb keeping the "good old boys" happy. That is just a realistic fact that often makes people who play at the lower levels absurdly butthurt.

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
I would never suggest something doesn't get fixed at any level. If they would open the offense up a bit at the mid levels I would have more interest in regular play. I suffered through 0-0 games in the minors season 28. Although pro level should be the focus it shouldn't suck ass on the way up. Some peewee squads boost and rent EQ season after season and deserve to at least be relevant in the eyes of admin.

And if this were a thread back in s28 I would have laid out the problems existing at the upper levels leading to why those levels aren't doing well and suggesting that those problems need to be addressed first in order to make it better, someone, maybe not you, but someone would come back with "bhall is just an elitist and doesn't understand or care about the lower leagues" or some garbage about how world league is just the 5% of glb or something (ignoring that end level isn't just wl but also regular and casual pro leagues as well)

Originally posted by bhall43
It isn't confusion from our side at all. We have players from rookie to pro. We know what every level of the game entails. The confusion generally is due in part to guys who only play lower levels not understanding that the game revolves around pro. That isn't me being an elitist. That isn't glb keeping the "good old boys" happy. That is just a realistic fact that often makes people who play at the lower levels absurdly butthurt.

If what you're saying is true then you should be able to beat Pee Wee agents at rookie/PW levels, but you never do. We obviously know lower level dots way more than you do because we have been playing here for years. A fact that many of you guys seem to pass over is that Pee Wee is WAY more expensive than regular leagues. We pay for the game just like you do and many of us pay way more than the average regular user. Most of us would like to see something given back to us in return for being long time customers, but instead we are essentially told to either play regular leagues or enjoy what you have in Pee Wee.

Originally posted by bhall43
It isn't confusion from our side at all. We have players from rookie to pro. We know what every level of the game entails. The confusion generally is due in part to guys who only play lower levels not understanding that the game revolves around pro. That isn't me being an elitist. That isn't glb keeping the "good old boys" happy. That is just a realistic fact that often makes people who play at the lower levels absurdly butthurt.

Not completely true. A lot of teams don't actually try to play at low levels. The infamous 0 cares syndrome.

Originally posted by Honey Badger
If what you're saying is true then you should be able to beat Pee Wee agents at rookie/PW levels, but you never do. We obviously know lower level dots way more than you do because we have been playing here for years. A fact that many of you guys seem to pass over is that Pee Wee is WAY more expensive than regular leagues. We pay for the game just like you do and many of us pay way more than the average regular user and many of us would like to see something given back to us in return for being long time customers, but instead we are essentially told to either play regular leagues or enjoy what you have in Pee Wee.

Annnnnd my point proven.

I don't think it's because guys at the higher levels can't. It's just that they don't care to. PW coordinating and dotbuilding is pretty much just experimenting and figuring out how to manipulate shit to work at that level. I remember last time I owned a PW Gold team we sucked. It was a combination of not boosting, not buying CE, and not really caring. I knew where my defense was weak and what needed to be done to change it. I was just too indifferent/lazy to build a peewee DAI and custom plays. I've always just used a generic DAI and plays created for regular leagues and to this day have never created anything specifically for PW.

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
Not completely true. A lot of teams don't actually try to play at low levels. The infamous 0 cares syndrome.



This ^

Originally posted by bhall43
Annnnnd my point proven.


You may think you know what dots are supposed to do at low levels but until you play there competitively season after season then you don't really know what low level dots are like.

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
Not completely true. A lot of teams don't actually try to play at low levels. The infamous 0 cares syndrome.



You are mistaking cares of serious coordinating with watching dots. I watched my lolbar guys all throughout their careers. They made the playoffs at every level they played.

Originally posted by Honey Badger
You may think you know what dots are supposed to do at low levels but until you play there competitively season after season then you don't really know what low level dots are like.

Let me ask you this. If my high catching poss guys are catching over 50% of passes thrown to them at rookie level and you are complaining that passing sucks at the lower levels, is it because you apparently know more about how lower levels work than I do? Because that is what happened.

If fixing upper levels first was what was needed to fix lower levels later on then I would have been 100% behind it. Honestly this sim right now is better than ever at lower levels so there are no complaints from me.

Originally posted by bhall43
Let me ask you this. If my high catching poss guys are catching over 50% of passes thrown to them at rookie level and you are complaining that passing sucks at the lower levels, is it because you apparently know more about how lower levels work than I do? Because that is what happened.

The passing problems were a pretty long time ago in GLB...I'm sure you weren't the first person to figure out possession WRs helped passing. lol

Once passing was buffed it started working at Pee Wee levels and that wasn't because no one knew that catching helped catch passes lol

I never saw one of your lower level passing teams and so I obviously never took any advise from you about how to build a lower level dot. If you wanted to figure out why passing was bad at low levels then GLB should have brought a lot of Pee Wee guys on as testers (Assuming you are meaning low levels as in 1-19).

Following up on what the OP said, If you know low level dots so well then feel free to get a team in PW Gold and see how bad you get beat season after season with your superior knowledge on low level dots lol

Wow, this thread had a chance to be good but now it's just boring.

Originally posted by Dub J
Wow, this thread had a chance to be good but now it's just boring.



Too srs now

needs more trash talk