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Originally posted by Thundercat_12
Are u fuckn kidding me with Rivers are you watchn the same games

Rivers is lucky to be a tier 4 QB

Schaub and dalton and high end 3rd tier. Griffin Luck and Wilson low end 3rd tier need more than 1 season to be better than an avg QB

So Cam Newton who is not that good is above all three rookies u mentioned simply because he has 1 year on them? LOL u are a joke. There isnt a team in the entire NFL who would take Cam Newton over ANY of those 3 rookies. In fact those 3 rookies are already even or better than almost all of those tier 2 QBs u mentioned earlier. The only QB in that group who could even be mentioned as definetivly better is Rothlisberger who is probably a tier 1 in most peoples books. Andrew Luck is the only one of them whos numbers are not that great when u consider his QB rating and number of picks and hes still deserving. RGIII and Wilson are not vets so they cant make it? Guess u havnt watched a single game from either all season, RGIII has as accurate an arm short and long as there is in the NFL, his long ball is arguably the best already, he can run as good as any QB, his INT's thrown are rediculously low and he performs under pressure. Keep your terrible posts to the PRO league forums. If u wanna post something at least have some evidense to back it up. U left Rivers off the list whos having 1 bad year but u then decide to keep off others who are having amazing years because they havnt played long enough, u contradict yourself with that right there.

Originally posted by Sellars
So Cam Newton who is not that good is above all three rookies u mentioned simply because he has 1 year on them? LOL u are a joke.

This sums it up.

How bout dem Giants

Originally posted by Sellars
So Cam Newton who is not that good is above all three rookies u mentioned simply because he has 1 year on them? LOL u are a joke. There isnt a team in the entire NFL who would take Cam Newton over ANY of those 3 rookies. In fact those 3 rookies are already even or better than almost all of those tier 2 QBs u mentioned earlier. The only QB in that group who could even be mentioned as definetivly better is Rothlisberger who is probably a tier 1 in most peoples books. Andrew Luck is the only one of them whos numbers are not that great when u consider his QB rating and number of picks and hes still deserving. RGIII and Wilson are not vets so they cant make it? Guess u havnt watched a single game from either all season, RGIII has as accurate an arm short and long as there is in the NFL, his long ball is arguably the best already, he can run as good as any QB, his INT's thrown are rediculously low and he performs under pressure. Keep your terrible posts to the PRO league forums. If u wanna post something at least have some evidense to back it up. U left Rivers off the list whos having 1 bad year but u then decide to keep off others who are having amazing years because they havnt played long enough, u contradict yourself with that right there.

This is rivers 2nd straight season of suck so pay attention

Luck is 2nd in the league in turnovers yes he's doin a good job and is certainly exceeding expectations but he's hardly a 2nd tier QB

RG3 is the next vick how many games has RG3 been knocked of or not played in already sure he'sok but hardly a franchise QB

Wilson tbh my fav of the 3 rookies have you seen doug flutie well he's very similiar sure he's hot of late but needs to maintain before I bump him up

Really big ben over matt ryan crazy ryan is ready 2 jump to elite status after this season

Originally posted by Thundercat_12
how many games has RG3 been knocked of or not played in already


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Originally posted by Thundercat_12
This is rivers 2nd straight season of suck so pay attention

Luck is 2nd in the league in turnovers yes he's doin a good job and is certainly exceeding expectations but he's hardly a 2nd tier QB

RG3 is the next vick how many games has RG3 been knocked of or not played in already sure he'sok but hardly a franchise QB

Wilson tbh my fav of the 3 rookies have you seen doug flutie well he's very similiar sure he's hot of late but needs to maintain before I bump him up

Really big ben over matt ryan crazy ryan is ready 2 jump to elite status after this season

can we stop with the rg3/vick comparisons just because they can run.

Cowboys should trade for Tebow, that guy is a winner

Originally posted by Ahrens858
can we stop with the rg3/vick comparisons just because they can run.

and they both get hurt every other game

Originally posted by Timetoshine-Metta
and they both get hurt every other game

Thank you at least their is 1 other person who can see the truth

Originally posted by Thundercat_12
Thank you at least their is 1 other person who can see the truth

RG 3 has only been hurt in two games, concusion vs Atlanta and bruised knee vs Baltimore

Vick can't hit the broadside of a barn if he tried

First, the RG3, Vick comparison is crazy. RG3 is actually accurate. They can both run, but RG3 is the Vick upgrade. Unfortunately, the injury issues will start going up for RG3 just like they did for Vick because of the style of play. RG3 will probably hold up for an entire season better than Vick ever has though. Originally posted by CyberNinja
RG 3 has only been hurt in two games, concusion vs Atlanta and bruised knee vs Baltimore

This is actually not quite accurate. He has missed plays in 3 other games because of some hard hits even prior to the game in which he was concussed.

Also, ITT I see really poor analysis of QB play being used as gospel here. There is never a time in the NFL that a ball should be force fed to a receiver who hasn't BEAT double coverage. There isn't a QB in the NFL, not Brady or either Manning, that has played well doing that. In fact, there have been times in Romo's career that this has had me most concerned about Romo because he would do that. It had me concerned about his overall vision. This season his 16 interceptions literally most often were because of he and a receiver not being on the same page. Who was wrong in those scenarios, I am not certain, and Garrett and the OC are the only people who can be certain of those right now. If I had to give the benefit of the doubt to QB or WR though, most often I go with the QB who has been in the offense longer. If you watch NFL Turning Point you can see that Romo's confidence in Bryant has increased an incredible amount over this season just based on that he said to Dez over the past 2 weeks on the show. This leads me to believe that Dez and Romo both realize that the errors were on Dez earlier in the season. The nice thing now though, Dez is doing extremely well now.

Lastly, I think several of you need to look over this. http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures
It is the tie breaking procedures for the NFL playoffs. If you think points comes early in the tie break

funny thing is people act like qbs can never get plays off. hb's and wr's can but god forbid a qb. I dont count the ravens gamefor RG3 as a knock cause he came back in and it happened so close to the end. so he missed 1 game, and left the falcons game with considerable time remaining. but here's the thing, even when not able to run at 100%, he proved he can be a turret and launch the ball with zip and accuracy even without all the running.

RG3 will be different for the mere fact that michael vick was doomed from the start in ATL. How often did vick have to run for his life. I personally feel as though his current injury problems stem from all the extra hits he took early in his career

Originally posted by Ahrens858
Originally posted by Thundercat_12

This is rivers 2nd straight season of suck so pay attention

Luck is 2nd in the league in turnovers yes he's doin a good job and is certainly exceeding expectations but he's hardly a 2nd tier QB

RG3 is the next vick how many games has RG3 been knocked of or not played in already sure he'sok but hardly a franchise QB

Wilson tbh my fav of the 3 rookies have you seen doug flutie well he's very similiar sure he's hot of late but needs to maintain before I bump him up

Really big ben over matt ryan crazy ryan is ready 2 jump to elite status after this season

can we stop with the rg3/vick comparisons just because they can run.

Yeah, making that comparison it's lazy racism.