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No Fear
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Originally posted by Gerr
Well, I guess I can't prove I don't have a hidden agenda and only time will tell. The GM offer still stands for anyone, even if you just want to watch what I am doing.


Thanks for the invite, but don't need it.

By the way, I hope your child pulls through.
 
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Originally posted by Gerr


However, I don't know how finding out that my 2-month old daughter will be a special needs child will affect my free time. For now I don't see much of a change, but as she gets older, pending she survives that long, I can see my free time reducing. But I always can log in from work...


Am I the only one who thinks that is an extremely messed up way to talk/type? "Pending she survives that long" followed by an emoticon.

Not really religious, but hope she does well.

 
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Originally posted by Jackson55555
Am I the only one who thinks that is an extremely messed up way to talk/type? "Pending she survives that long" followed by an emoticon.

Not really religious, but hope she does well.



I thought that the whole statement was very odd, but I am a weird person so thought it was just me.
 
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My emotions are pretty meesed up, so it was just a bad attempt at humor.
 
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My biggest question is Jkid has two teams in Pee Wee gold aswell... yet no one is getting on his ass about it... care to explain?
 
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Originally posted by Cleveland Browns
My biggest question is Jkid has two teams in Pee Wee gold aswell... yet no one is getting on his ass about it... care to explain?


hmm ...what in principle is morally right? ...is it morally right to bring someone else into this heated debate, even though obviously some of the light is shed upon him because of this topic? ...should principles and moral obligations even be taken into account, when it is not breaking any rules set by the game? ...i think that jkid knows that there are some of us that don't agree with it, but he's not the one making a thread and broadcasting a 'PWG Teaching Team', in order to gain further advantage over his rivals
Edited by ManOgwaR on Dec 13, 2012 03:02:16
 
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Originally posted by Cleveland Browns
My biggest question is Jkid has two teams in Pee Wee gold aswell... yet no one is getting on his ass about it... care to explain?


My other team is not a teaching team or a testing team. I never wanted them to be in gold, but they happened to get there because a lot of teams went CPU in one season, opening up lots of extra spots. I feel like I can manage two gold teams well, they are both meant to be competitive, Gold Test Squad has finished 1st in the west the last 2 seasons. They are not a test team or any less important than FGC. They both have fully boosted rosters and I want both to do well. Right now, they are both composed of small groups of agents, and they are not open to everybody because I don't want to recruit that way. Also, I don't actually use GTS as a scout to mock other teams' defenses like what Gerr did last season. I'll say it again, GTS is not a test team, I don't even play that many scrims between GTS and FGC anymore because I would rather test against real opposition than against myself.
Edited by jkid2 on Dec 13, 2012 03:56:25
 
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Originally posted by ManOgwaR
hmm ...what in principle is morally right? ...is it morally right to bring someone else into this heated debate, even though obviously some of the light is shed upon him because of this topic? ...should principles and moral obligations even be taken into account, when it is not breaking any rules set by the game? ...i think that jkid knows that there are some of us that don't agree with it, but he's not the one making a thread and broadcasting a 'PWG Teaching Team', in order to gain further advantage over his rivals


you say it is an advantage... and you continue to say it is the same advantages over and over but the ones you claim he has, everyone else has access to them aswell.

1) Owning more then one PWG team - Yes this allows him to copy another team to practice against them, BUT he pays the flex to do so and anyone else could easily do the same simply by purchasing a 2nd pee wee team in general.

2) You say he is using it to recruit - The only recruiting he has done in that team is finding people who want to learn to be coaches.

3) You say he has the advantage of playing all the teams before the playoffs on each side of the ball - Are you saying no one else does? Hell in the quick scrim. there are quiet a few PWG teams that you can set it up. Even so, you can go to those same games and get just as much information out of them.

You all continue to trash Gerr about owning a 2nd team that he has earned a slot in PWG for. Sadly I believe you have posted in this thread more then he has. Is it wrong of him to try and help others? Ego push or not, it is making Pee Wee stronger by bringing in more competition. Did he go back on his word? Yeah he did, but if your going to say you have never said something and done the complete opposite, then you would be lying.

Back off the guys nuts... LE is the only one who has a right to be mad, and that is between Gerr and LE. You on the other hand are not even involved in PWG this season, so why not just shut the hell up, take the invite and leave Gerr be?
 
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Originally posted by Cleveland Browns
you say it is an advantage... and you continue to say it is the same advantages over and over but the ones you claim he has, everyone else has access to them aswell.

You all continue to trash Gerr about owning a 2nd team that he has earned a slot in PWG for. Sadly I believe you have posted in this thread more then he has. Is it wrong of him to try and help others? Ego push or not, it is making Pee Wee stronger by bringing in more competition. Did he go back on his word? Yeah he did, but if your going to say you have never said something and done the complete opposite, then you would be lying.


...WHOA ...I have NEVER said something and done the complete opposite in this game, or in real life! ...so to accuse me of being a lier is so very wrong and just shows how much you know about me!

Originally posted by No Fear
Sorry Gerr, but anyone that thinks you don't have a hidden agenda is a fool...or doesn't know jack about Peewee.


Originally posted by Cleveland Browns
Back off the guys nuts... LE is the only one who has a right to be mad, and that is between Gerr and LE. You on the other hand are not even involved in PWG this season, so why not just shut the hell up, take the invite and leave Gerr be?


...this thread isn't even on the PWG forum, so it isn't so exclusive as you would like to assume, and I have been involved in peewee and PWG as a team owner, as a DC on 2 different teams (well 3, if you want me to count my own team) and also as a HC briefly ...I coordinated both sides of the ball and took my team to the playoffs without being fully boosted and CEQ'd with my own AIs and defensive style that I developed myself and was undefeated for the first 7 games of 2 consecutive seasons(season 15 and 16?!?) when PWG was a lot tougher than it is at the moment ...I was DC of one of the conference champions in PWG's first season(season 11) and have also built dots for PWG teams at various times ...so what makes you feel like you have the right to tell me to 'shut the hell up'?

gerr has proven himself a hypocrite more than once before(he's gone back on his words many times), if you want to believe him then that is just because you are already one of those sycophants that GLB has an abundance of, so i guess you are on your way to 'greatness' lol
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Not once have I ever given my word on something and then pulled a 180. Every time I have been accused of going back on my word was me just posting about something I MIGHT do or some action I MIGHT take, and it didn't happen for what ever reason. Not once did I EVER say my plans were written in stone or guarantee my actions. People just love to jump all over even the slightest change in my plans just to try to make me look bad. The only thing I am guilty of is posting my plans before they were set in stone and yes, sometimes they change. You would think I would have learned from the first couple times, but I keep doing it and keep getting burned...

If you don't believe me, I challenge anyone to find a single instance where I said with certainty what my plans were and pulled a 180. Don't bring up what you have heard, find my original post.
Edited by Gerr on Dec 13, 2012 21:07:51
 
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The point wasn't that you were previously involved, it is that you currently are not. So what if Gerr has his two teams... Their his not yours and again they earned their spot in the PWG league. If you don't like it, get your team to PWG and beat him out. your constant bickering isn't helping get his other team out of there.

When you say you have done all those things, Gerr is doing just as well in the current league structure with Jkid and LE still in the league (meaning there is still a bit of competition) and still making a consistant run into the playoffs and league championships. He has just as much right to have his teams here as any. You are only angry because he claimed he was getting rid of it. Well, maybe he had a change of heart?

Even if he does have a hidden agenda, what does it matter? All you can do is shut up sit back and wait. If he does kudos you were right. If he doesn't you were wrong. No need to continue to be a little baby about it just because he is currently owning two teams in a PWG league.

 
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Originally posted by Gerr
Not once did I EVER say my plans were written in stone or guarantee my actions.

If you don't believe me, I challenge anyone to find a single instance where I said with certainty what my plans were and pulled a 180. Don't bring up what you have heard, find my original post.


...well I won't bring up what I have heard, just going by what I have read with my own eyes on threads that would have been deleted long ago by now ...you have argued against being involved in 2 teams in gold yourself and now here you are with 2 teams, having 2 bites at the cherry from different conferences ...so to argue against it and then be doing it yourself, is a complete 180 and proves to me that you are a hypocrite! ...you may like to think that because you never had to guarantee your words, that people will forget but i haven't, and others would still remember the many things that you have said that you were doing but never eventuated ...to talk about doing one thing and then to do another, just makes people lose respect for you gerr!

Originally posted by Cleveland Browns
The point wasn't that you were previously involved, it is that you currently are not. So what if Gerr has his two teams... Their his not yours and again they earned their spot in the PWG league. If you don't like it, get your team to PWG and beat him out. your constant bickering isn't helping get his other team out of there.


hey I would have ended this rant a couple of pages ago, if you had of not brought it back to the surface again ...and it's daft to suggest that we should be trying to beat gerr's other team out of gold coz he could have his team sit there with the same AIs as his other team and not boost custom EQ or game plan all season, and still would make the cut and maybe even make the playoffs, the way PWG is at the moment

Originally posted by Cleveland Browns
When you say you have done all those things, Gerr is doing just as well in the current league structure with Jkid and LE still in the league (meaning there is still a bit of competition) and still making a consistant run into the playoffs and league championships. He has just as much right to have his teams here as any. You are only angry because he claimed he was getting rid of it. Well, maybe he had a change of heart?


no, I was angry about the fact that he had the second team in PWG to begin with, then was angrier when he had it in the other conference to his other team, but i never said anything about it coz I wasn't involved in peewee at the time, so i tried to get over it ...yeah, the fact that he went against his words again and kept it in PWG and tried to make it seem like he was doing a great thing for PWG was what triggered my rant!

Originally posted by Cleveland Browns
Even if he does have a hidden agenda, what does it matter? All you can do is shut up sit back and wait. If he does kudos you were right. If he doesn't you were wrong. No need to continue to be a little baby about it just because he is currently owning two teams in a PWG league.


no all i can do is make everyone involved in peewee aware of what exactly is happening here and why gerr is not the saint that he tries to portray himself as ...and try to make it so it's not going to be the win/win that gerr was secretly hoping for!

Edited by ManOgwaR on Dec 14, 2012 04:23:33
 
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I understood. Manogwar is just an asshole who need an ass which he doesn't have and that's why he's so pissed about someone's achievements.
 
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Originally posted by dude34
I understood. Manogwar is just an asshole who need an ass which he doesn't have and that's why he's so pissed about someone's achievements.


...umm, well if am an asshole without the ass, then that makes me just a hole ...consider me as the dark matter of a black hole that eats up anything that lacks the best interests of PWG!

...it depends on what that someone's achievements were! ...if they were able to achieve greatness and keep their dignity intact, then I have a great deal of respect for that!
 
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Originally posted by ManOgwaR
...umm, well if am an asshole without the ass, then that makes me just a hole ...consider me as the dark matter of a black hole that eats up anything that lacks the best interests of PWG!

...it depends on what that someone's achievements were! ...if they were able to achieve greatness and keep their dignity intact, then I have a great deal of respect for that!


You are too average to be judge for who deserve greatness and who not...I don't think that you could beat my next season pw copper team that I'm building right now with advisers such as Gerr and jkid2. And I'm not their level. You can't beat them with fair play or not. As I said too average
 
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