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Luzod
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Originally posted by jdbolick

With whom and as what? Also, pretending that you're only involved at the minors level by choice isn't exactly convincing.


Seriously, if I wanted to be coordinating a team with 2~3 agents, I'd rather make my own team and my own players. Also, all good teams with nice owners usually don't need coordinators at this point and I really would rather be on rookies than join yours or Madcow's team for example

I guess I could find more Pro league jobs if I really cared for it, but really, how much time would I have to spend on this game to coordinate more teams? I'm already busy enough with low level teams and 1 WL team and that because I hardly ever have to change anything on low levels.
 
bhall43
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Coordinating doesn't take much time at all. I oc and/or dc 5 teams right now, 4 in the pro levels.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
My CBs have below average agility & vision by WL standards, yes, but they're virtually the same as yours in that respect. Agility can be made up through Change Direction, as it's the only SA which operates roughly equivalently to an attribute. I also choose to go a little light on vision because it doesn't really help enough against fakes and the check to see an incoming pass is easy enough to make. Meanwhile you keep conveniently minimizing the fact that my corners have a massive advantage in jumping over yours. When you opened them briefly, I was actually shocked at how low your jumping was. So your corners are a lot slower, a lot lower in jumping, have a tiny advantage in agility, have a tiny advantage in vision, and have a bunch in catching.

The point remains that if you were a good builder who just decided not to go high in speed then you could have gone high in something else, but you don't have high naturals in any attribute. Your builds suck because you've never understood how to do that efficiently, which is why good teams do not want your dots.


If your CBs' agility and vision are virtually the same as my CB's, then my CB's jumping is virtually the same as yours. Don't try to pull that crap. This post just goes to show how little you really know about building CBs. Just like going from 145 speed to 159 speed (lol) gives virtually no benefit to in game performance, neither does Going above high 70s in jumping. Instead of spending the ever increasing amount of SPs you need to in order to get jumping higher, you're better off saving BTs to get another piece of AEQ or investing in SAs. And you still fail to mention that I have higher strength, confidence, SB, SV, FS, and better AEQ. You basically have a really fast CB that can't do shit because you pushed speed to high at the expense of having a good build.

Originally posted by jdbolick

His dots have performed better sometimes and worse other times. In s26 he had shitty stats that he tried to make up numerous excuses for. But in general, LHF has lucked into the fact that lately being slower is actually a good thing for coverage. When I originally created my plateau corners, WRs like Jerricho Brooks were dominating WL defenses and I wanted CBs who would never get beaten deep. Unfortunately now no one ever gets beaten deep no matter how slow they are.


During Season 26 my CB was in WL and yours were in pro, but (IIRC) mine out-performed yours.

Originally posted by beenlurken
I think the confusion here is this...

jd claims that lhf's are poorly built and when he says this he is not referring to production but to the actually efficiency of the build... in other words a good dot builder could build lhf's style of cb and get much more out of the build... some people dont understand the difference between poorly building a dot that doesnt perform and poorly building a dot that could have done even better than what it is doing.


That's the thing. Getting the higher EL requires pushing the CB's primaries higher at the expense of secondaries, SAs, and possibly AEQ. I can build high EL CBs, but they'd look like shit like bolick's do. I've seen many higher EL CBs on WL teams and they all tend to follow the same path of having more speed and maybe slightly more agility and vision than mine, but they usually always have less strength, SAs, and only 1 MT% piece. In contrast, my CB has +22.5% MT chance, +22.5% PD chance, 10 SV, 9 SB, 10 FS, and 10 CD. You don't get that SA/AEQ combo while having super-high primaries and going that route results in a lower EL.

Originally posted by Robbnva
and I am still waiting for someone who will actually vouch for you bolick. you claim to have ALL THESE people who think you are a great dot builder, surely they will come and post and support you.


This won't happen because everyone agrees that bolick is a joke. I had discussions with a couple of DCs (both have WL titles) last season and they agreed that they wouldn't want bolick's CBs on their teams.

Originally posted by jdbolick

Actually my corners not only have better raw numbers, but better percentage numbers than his coverage corner also.

LHF: 30%
Roark: 49%
Third: 38%


Completions allowed:
YMXI: 40% (12)
Roark: 51% (21)
Third: 53% (17)

You keep on allowing all those passes and then talking about PDs. I'll keep building CBs that don't allow passes.
 
bhall43
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I highly doubt that Hood wouldn't want jd's corner builds on their team.
 
blackrock
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Neither completions allowed percentage nor passes defended percentage is a very telling statistic. Ideally, a corner never has to defend a pass because the QB doesn't throw in his direction.
 
bhall43
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Originally posted by blackrock
Neither completions allowed percentage nor passes defended percentage is a very telling statistic. Ideally, a corner never has to defend a pass because the QB doesn't throw in his direction.


Lol...tell me more about this ideal glb.
 
Homage
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This whole fucking thread is a well crafted Dpride Mindbomb to fuck with JD and LHF.

And to no ones surprise, it worked guys.
 
Longhornfan1024
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Originally posted by Homage
This whole fucking thread is a well crafted Dpride Mindbomb to fuck with JD and LHF.

And to no ones surprise, it worked guys.


I'm having fun making jd all types of mad. He hates it when I repeatedly prove him wrong.
 
bhall43
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Originally posted by Homage
This whole fucking thread is a well crafted Dpride Mindbomb to fuck with JD and LHF.

And to no ones surprise, it worked guys.


Op pretty relevant tho.
 
blackrock
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Originally posted by bhall43
Lol...tell me more about this ideal glb.


I mean better CBs will have fewer targets all other things being equal. Rates of defending passes is just not a very good metric.
 
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Originally posted by blackrock
I mean better CBs will have fewer targets all other things being equal. Rates of defending passes is just not a very good metric.


Again tell me about that idealistic glb.
 
Longhornfan1024
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Originally posted by blackrock
I mean better CBs will have fewer targets all other things being equal. Rates of defending passes is just not a very good metric.


This only works to a certain extent. Eventually, every CB, regardless of how good they are, will be targeted. But still.

Targets:
YMXI: 30
Third: 32
Roark: 41
 
jdbolick
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Originally posted by Luzod
I guess I could find more Pro league jobs if I really cared for it

Again, saying "I could coordinate a high level if I wanted to" isn't exactly convincing. Whether or not you coordinate great teams isn't something they'll read at your eulogy, but it is relevant to this particular forum and whether or not you should be talking shit. I recommend that you stop running your mouth until you have something to back it up, because otherwise it looks both hollow and rather bizarre.
 
blackrock
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I'm not sure what your argument is. Are you suggesting that CB quality in GLB is not related to number of targets?
 
jdbolick
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Originally posted by Homage
This whole fucking thread is a well crafted Dpride Mindbomb to fuck with JD and LHF.

And to no ones surprise, it worked guys.

I wasn't his target, he just knew I'd chime in to fuck with LHF too.
 
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