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Dpride59
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Originally posted by Gart888
joke thread?


Joke team
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1340899
 
hays23
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carthage isn't throwing a game. plus i think our tiebreakers might not be great against the other 9-7 teams ?
 
taurran
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Originally posted by GP1
Originally posted by taurran

Are you seriously that f'ing dense, or are you just a lawyer?

When you split the top 10 into two top/bottom groups, it isn't parity.


Both. But you miss my point entirely. Day 40 rankings for season z look totally different than day 40 for season y. Accordingly, you cannot rely on them. That's why random is a better draw.


I see what you're saying, and it isn't valid.

You can't rely on a random draw - it isn't better. Just because hand selection or selection based on performance isn't 100% perfect doesn't mean it isn' t a superior method of balance.

Random doesn't work. S17 is a perfect example of why.
 
taurran
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Originally posted by Dpride59
Originally posted by Gart888

joke thread?


Joke team
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1340899


 
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Originally posted by hays23
carthage isn't throwing a game. plus i think our tiebreakers might not be great against the other 9-7 teams ?


3-2
 
taurran
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Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by Dpride59

im not. I just hate to see the 3 teams demoting from zeta.


I do too, but I just don't see there being a fool proof/"fair" way to break up the teams. Random is about as fair as their is....and it's not a lock that any of those teams would have made it in Alpha either. I know exact how well the talent lvl of D9/Shockers line up....SoCal/jdros is a master at finding the cool new blitzs. they're a bitch to beat when they try bringing their A game and they're current sitting at #8 in Alpha.



Nothing is fool proof, but an educated selection is MUCH better. S17 is a perfect example of why Random doesn't work. You're feeling the burnt of it, so I'd expect you to see this.
 
taurran
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Hard facts:

WL team trophy count:
Originally posted by StoutOne DTD
Alpha
WL Conference r/up
3 WL 2nd round r/up
3 WL 1st round r/up
3 Pro Golds
6 Pro Silvers

Zeta
WL Gold
WL Silver
WL Conference r/up
WL 2nd round r/up
4 WL 1st round r/up
1 non playoff WL team
5 Pro Golds
2 Pro Silvers



S16 end of seasons rankings:
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Bold = Alpha (this seasons Zeta)
001) 30-2 .. 19-2 .. 15-2 . 1.21623 .. 0.82349 ... Chocolate Blaze (WL)
002) 23-3 .. 13-3 .. 12-2 . 1.15269 .. 0.81829 ... Gunny Highway's Recon Platoon (WL)

003) 30-4 .. 17-4 .. 12-3 . 1.13183 .. 0.78664 ... Cobra Kai (WL)
004) 27-6 .. 14-5 .. 10-5 . 1.07460 .. 0.79124 ... Moose Jaw Roughriders (WL)
005) 20-6 .. 12-5 .. 9-5 ... 1.06528 .. 0.83953 ... Saigon Whores (WL)
006) 47-8 .. 18-8 .. 8-7 ... 1.02345 .. 0.68794 ... Carthage Mad Clash (APL)

007) 35-6 .. 14-6 .. 6-5 ... 1.02110 .. 0.69286 ... Honolulu Hurricane Wife Carriers (USAPL)
008) 21-9 .. 10-9 .. 6-8 ... 1.00830 .. 0.84219 ... Mayan Prophecy (WL)
009) 14-4 .. 8-3 .... 5-2 ... 1.00466 .. 0.78296 ... Halifax+10 Exploition (WL)
010) 38-9 .. 12-9 .. 6-9 ... 0.99462 .. 0.70716 ... Blue Renegade Wino Smurfs of Funkalicious Labatt (SEAPL)


S17 day 28 rankings:
Originally posted by taurran
Bold = Zeta

Rankings as of Day 28:
Rk . W-L .. vT50 . vT25 ... Rating ..... SOS ......... Team Name (League)
001) 21-1 .. 13-1 .. 10-1 . 1.26006 .. 0.87461 ... Saigon Whores (WL)
002) 21-2 .. 14-2 .. 10-2 . 1.22627 .. 0.87638 ... Indianapolis Gurupies (WL)

003) 18-4 .. 13-4 .. 7-4 ... 1.12590 .. 0.86461 ... Honolulu Hurricane Wife Carriers (WL)
004) 16-6 .. 10-6 .. 7-6 ... 1.12576 .. 0.95537 ... Chocolate Blaze (WL)
005) 19-7 .. 10-7 .. 8-6 ... 1.07965 .. 0.89347 ... Lincoln Navigators (WL)

006) 23-7 .. 11-7 .. 5-7 ... 1.07514 .. 0.84682 ... Blue Renegade Wino Smurfs of Funkalicious Labatt (WL)
007) 21-8 .. 13-8 .. 6-8 ... 1.07446 .. 0.88994 ... Cincinnati Shockers (WL)
008) 27-7 .. 12-7 .. 8-6 ... 1.07272 .. 0.81229 ... The Osaka Buckeyes (WL)
009) 21-7 .. 9-7 .... 6-7 ... 1.04371 .. 0.83255 ... Gunny Highway's Recon Platoon (WL)
010) 20-8 .. 10-8 .. 5-8 ... 1.03767 .. 0.86179 ... Carthage Mad Clash (WL)



 
Gart888
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oh god, so this isn't a joke thread?

lollllllllll
 
calamnet
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I wouldn't mind seeing a snippet of code that you are proposing to make the conferences, in your eyes, balanced.

Maybe next, you could tackle why my iPod can't effectively randomize either.



 
taurran
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Originally posted by calamnet
I wouldn't mind seeing a snippet of code that you are proposing to make the conferences, in your eyes, balanced.

Maybe next, you could tackle why my iPod can't effectively randomize either.


I could flip a coin and do a better job than bort's random script.
 
calamnet
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Originally posted by taurran
I could flip a coin and do a better job than bort's random script.


No really, I'll wait.
 
taurran
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Originally posted by Gart888
oh god, so this isn't a joke thread?

lollllllllll


Everything you don't agree with seems to be a "joke".

That makes you a joke.
 
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THEY GET SHUFFLED EVERY SEASON POINDEXTER
 
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wtf
 
taurran
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Originally posted by calamnet
Originally posted by taurran

I could flip a coin and do a better job than bort's random script.


No really, I'll wait.


Here's a nice algorithm that works.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4204724





Now go get your f'in shinebox.
 
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