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Seriously smittdog the only thing we've ever had handed to us were promotions. From the beginning I knew there would be a lot of agents who wouldn't sign with the team right off the bat because of our team name, but I knew enough people would.

Now our name is a positive thing from the team. I (definitely not Track) worked hard to turn a negative into a positive and it didn't just happen overnight. In Season 2 I started with all new dots, so we were under-leveled in our A-League and even though we lost the conference championship to a 20-0 team by a score of 13-3 we got no playoff money. Seasons 3, 4, and 5, we missed the #1 seed by one game, Season 5 when we got our only trophy we actually were the #5 seed despite that, and again, got no playoff money on our way up to AA. I'm not even sure if my team has averaged one home game a season, always had below-average fan support, and I know I've fucked up finances. One of the first seasons we had a complete stadium I accidentally sold all of our tickets immediately at 80% discount on the right prices!!!

I hate it when people bitch about money, because we've been competing against teams with bigger stadiums and more money than us from the very beginning.


Everyone keeps telling you things like "people like reading posts by CV and/or KKAR on the forums" and you hear "you have to post on the forums like CV does to be successful"

When I have free agents on the market, the main reason I don't sign with teams like yours is that there is nothing unique about you that I either know about already or can easily/quickly find. If a player is getting an offer from you he's getting other offers too and you have to offer him something that makes your team different aka better and worth choosing. Not even CV can sign a player if he doesn't have what the guy is looking for.

If I send someone an offer and assume they know about us from the forums and like us and am wrong and to them we're just another random team they'll never sign with us. You'd be surprised how many players my team signs that had no idea who we were until we recruited them. The forum offer didn't work for them, but obviously something else did.

You can build your team however you'd like; make your choice.

Alright. I'm done. Part of the thread was fun to talk about different successful teams and how they got to the top (and stayed there). This is a really helpful league with a lot of nice and knowledgeable agents. Lots of agents have joined struggling usapl teams in past seasons for no reason other than to help them. YOu were trolling awhile and people kept talking because the subject matter was interesting (glb culture) but now it's pointless. Proof is always in the delicious pudding

Originally posted by smittdog101
Originally posted by chronoaug

apparently


you'd be surprised how many long time GLBers from season 1,2 and 3 are still pretty bad at this game or don't know that much. just scouring the main forums i see lots of it

I hate to tell you, but I doubt too many people know the game better than I do. Does that mean I get all the players I want? Obviously not.

Let's get catch22 in here and have him copy MEM's roster over to mine. We all know he will do it.....he has no integrity. Then we can see who really knows how to play this game.

I would win....just me old me by myself. Even with the roster that MEM recruited and knowing their players, I would still beat them with a normal game planning period. No doubt about it.

The sad thing is that they would have um-teem people trying to beat just me. That would be really deflating.

I know this would never happen, but the point is that they would get stomped with their own players against themselves.



LOL at you thinking you can game plan your way out of a paper bag. Did you notice how poorly your team played last year...With dots that had been successful the season before. It's because you ran into a league where nearly every team game plans. You didn't get "out dotted" you go out coached. Deal with it

Damn, you might be the biggest whiner I have come across in GLB and that is saying something.

Originally posted by smittdog101
I hate to tell you, but I doubt too many people know the game better than I do. Does that mean I get all the players I want? Obviously not.

Let's get catch22 in here and have him copy MEM's roster over to mine. We all know he will do it.....he has no integrity. Then we can see who really knows how to play this game.

I would win....just me old me by myself. Even with the roster that MEM recruited and knowing their players, I would still beat them with a normal game planning period. No doubt about it.

The sad thing is that they would have um-teem people trying to beat just me. That would be really deflating.

I know this would never happen, but the point is that they would get stomped with their own players against themselves.



You still don't get it. Game planning is only part of the game, especially at this level. It takes a lot of things working together to be successful.

Ability to recruit good players/agents + game planning + roster planning + financial planning/equipment strategy + ability to judge good talent/build good dots = successful team.

How good an organization does all the above will determine how successful they are. You can't afford to suck at any one of the categories or you will come up short on a fairly consistent basis to other teams that do all those things at least good if not well.

Sounds like you just need to fold up shop and do a merger. I would find someone who is willing (and good at) doing the other things that it takes to be successful and you can take a coordinator spot in the organization.

Your Avatar sums up your last statement pretty well Klydon. I'd say you're Nitschke and the whiner is the unidentified victim looking up!
Well put CV, it takes a lot to be successful, especially over time and it is hard to do and still have fun. Ketchikan is a great org because they get it!

Hats off to all the guys in USAPL who truly are Pros and look forward to a fun season!

Originally posted by coachviking


Damn, you might be the biggest whiner I have come across in GLB and that is saying something.

His Idol must be SI

A couple things....

Chrono:

-Zero is easily the nastiest mofo on Alpine.
-I blame myself for the Alpine WL demotion tbh. A real life issue hit at a very inconvenient time.

Merc:

-I'm not sure what you are talking about, mostly cause your posts are too long. Mostly I just got the impression that you suck at lolglb finances.

Smitt:

-Your passion is good, but you aren't helping your case here. Whining about dots doesn't help that image which you admit is huge.

-It is damn near impossible to be a successful pro league team through decline without some help running the team. I have a lot of help, but I still scour the GM's looking for teams forum to bring 1-2 geniuses in a season.

-Its quite insulting to a lot of people for you to auto-assume you are the best at tactics.

-A mandatory draft will never be implemented for the highest levels, mostly because agents enjoy free agency and since dots have short shelf-lives, they want to be on a team they want to go to. I do think however that different cap-drafts would be nice, since I always am annoyed when I need to find cap-teams for my dots. (not to mention most teams replace under 20 plays/season, so a 35 player limit per team would change nothing.

Plus the only players who won't EASILY find a team are not the players you need to win USAPro. Won't help you 1 bit. Even the UGLB draft has only a handful of players each season who are of a quality that can start in USAPro, and that is out of 80 player classes of guys who want to be in a draft (which is the only type of guys you'd get in your proposed draft aside from afk agents).

-Back off the tester thing. I know it sounds like a HUGE advantage. I really really really understand that. But all you are doing is trying to start a witch hunt for a necessary evil which in reality gives an extremely small advantage. We all have access to the test server and builds and can watch test games. I don't do this because its a waste of my time. The off-season test server does not equal the live sim, and changes are always made between the two. Also, people seem to imagine an open sandbox for testers to make players and play them, but in reality catch and others are big nazi's on making sure tests are something that directly needs testing.

CV:

-Obviously you recruited without the lolmod, but i'd kill for sweet green font on PMs tbh.

kthxbye.

Just read this whole thread.

When my dot's grow up, atleast one will go to MEM, and it has nothing to do with their being mods and testers on it.

Lol at that being the reason for MEMs success, when in reality, MEM was better before CV got his special green PMs (which is freaking cool, I'll admit).

lolsmitt. MEM isn't as successful as they are because of green PMs or jdros being a tester for all of one season. MEM is great because CV put together a group of some of the most knowledgeable and fun agents in the game. The knowledge keeps us winning, the fun keeps the group together. I've been a part of a lot of winning franchises in this game, but the reason I'm most loyal to MEM is because it is the most fun team I've been a part of. By bitching in the forums all the time, all you're doing is creating an image of yourself as a whiner rather than someone who wants to have fun playing the game. You do that and no one will want to be on your team.

Activity on the team board usually indicates a team that stays together.
A team that stays together long enough usually has a decent record.
Even the dotbuilds aren't optimum, eventually even the most retarded coordinator can put together a decent game plan with them. If the players are having fun, they will stick around.

Until championships start paying real cash, this game is all about fun.

Originally posted by coachviking
Skulls-32 players
Freedom-21 players
Illegal Aliens-39 players
Jax-27 players
Longhorns-20 players
Czech-3 players

A few things...Guys if you can't recruit or you don't want to DROP THE HELL DOWN. A team that at least gives a crap could be up here.

How the hell is Czech still here...Teams are switching leagues and conferences, yet a gutted team is still in USA PRO..






Czech would have never gutted had someone not banned like 8 of our members just because i logged onto their accounts. Their all unbanned now after a huge fucking run around and them needing to make new accounts and page support but i got pissed that it happened, gutted and will now focus on making another team after we remake Brewed To Perfection. Ive asked that CY goto a cap 4 league but it was too late i guess. If anyone has the pull to get us placed there by all means get it done.

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN

Merc:

-I'm not sure what you are talking about, mostly cause your posts are too long. Mostly I just got the impression that you suck at lolglb finances.

if he's going to try and troll me i'm going to make him read for it. not going to let him troll me too.

My posts really aren't meant to be read btw.

To everyone here........

I am not trying do degrade anyone who hasn't already thrown the virtual internet punches at me already. This is the internet too. If anyone gets their feelings hurt by my conceitedness, then I feel sorry for your real life, because even these emoticons can't even come close to expressing crap over the internet.

I wish I did have some help on my team, but every time I have tried it didn't work out well at all. This is what I have gained by trying go gather help outside of myself:

My first losing season since season 3 I believe, because we didn't get the players we really needed. I was kind of upset about allowing certain players to be signed last season, but I honored my part as an owner and played these players.

The last person I let DC for my team basically went 0 for, and I had to retake the reigns to keep us on track for the playoffs. This was probably a mistake of mine as well, but boo hoo me for trying to get players more involved.

I do buy the fact that all facets of the game need to be run well to win at the high levels, but the truth of it is that Recruiting and AI are the top of the tops by far. If you have good enough players, you can go out there an run anything and be a playoff team. The recruiting part is so ridiculous and always has been. It's just getting worse as the seasons roll on.

As far as my draft suggestion: I don't even think half of you read it with any thought process. The idea was to allow good recruiters to stay atop with the best signings, but also it would be designed to allow other teams to fill rosters and be competitive as well. By being competitive, I don't mean they will be championship contenders....I mean they at least won't have to resort to being a high school team vs. Pro's.

Who here wants to play rosters that no one will go out on a limb for? I had to personally guarantee a player his release if I did not get the roster up to his likings. As much as I believed that I could handle the task, it has become nothing more than a popularity contest.....so it looks as though I may have to release him. At least he stuck his neck out and is giving me a chance to prove myself, but he is one of the rare agents that is looking at it this way.

I guess I just need to give up my golf career and other things, so I can go out there and pimp my fake internet life for popularity. I mean it has probably taken most of many seasons of this game just to get the nuances hatched out. The problem lies in all the changes every season. Granted the changes are "sometimes" for the better, but most of these changes you have to find yourself. It's like going to a library and trying to find a certain book with no alphabetizing organization and no librarian.....You just have to stumble across more than half of the shit that makes you better at this game.

There are still so many things wrong with this game. The problem is that I don't know if anyone of these MODS, ADMINS, or TESTERS really care enough to get things straight. Maybe they should get paid and not play the game at all? At least there would be unbiased workings that would happen much quicker.

I know this is a novel, but one day this game will hopefully get to where it should have been 5-6 seasons ago. Maybe....just maybe Bort will pull his head out of his big pile of money and take a breath one day.

Originally posted by Sapper06
Activity on the team board usually indicates a team that stays together.
A team that stays together long enough usually has a decent record.
Even the dotbuilds aren't optimum, eventually even the most retarded coordinator can put together a decent game plan with them. If the players are having fun, they will stick around.

Until championships start paying real cash, this game is all about fun.

It is supposed to be about fun. But how many times are you hearing that it is becoming a job? That is not fun. If every change in the game didn't lead to an exploit, then maybe players and owners could have faith in these changes. The fact is they can't....they have to spend time and time again figuring out what is and what isn't. It should all be self explanatory to the average owner that knows a little something about football, but that if far from the case.

All of you that keep defending this game the way it is are part of the problem as to why there is no competition anymore. Only 1 league can legitimately say that the competition is fairly rounded out. That doesn't bode well for this game at all.

Originally posted by smittdog101
Originally posted by Sapper06

Activity on the team board usually indicates a team that stays together.
A team that stays together long enough usually has a decent record.
Even the dotbuilds aren't optimum, eventually even the most retarded coordinator can put together a decent game plan with them. If the players are having fun, they will stick around.

Until championships start paying real cash, this game is all about fun.

It is supposed to be about fun. But how many times are you hearing that it is becoming a job? That is not fun. If every change in the game didn't lead to an exploit, then maybe players and owners could have faith in these changes. The fact is they can't....they have to spend time and time again figuring out what is and what isn't. It should all be self explanatory to the average owner that knows a little something about football, but that if far from the case.

All of you that keep defending this game the way it is are part of the problem as to why there is no competition anymore. Only 1 league can legitimately say that the competition is fairly rounded out. That doesn't bode well for this game at all.



Have you noticed that YOU are the only one attacking the game here. Maybe, JUST MAYBE you aren't as good at it as you think. You call them exploits...last season there were NONE, yet you still whined. I'm serious now, do you ever read what you post.