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Originally posted by JTD
Just so Im clear, due to double elimination rules, Cinci has to be Hali twice in a row to advance to the final 4? That seems a bit silly since we have already had to play an extra game (beating SoA) just to get to this game, double elim or not.
Look at it this way, we have gone 6-1 so far in this tourney to reach this game. Hali has only had to go 4-0 to reach the same game. I realize it's double elim, but that seems like a flaw in the tourney setup. The bonus for not losing should simply be that you have to win fewer games to get to the final four, not that the loser bracket champ has to beat you twice in a row to get past you.
This is pretty standard for a double-elim tournament; winner of the winner's bracket has to lose twice to be knocked out, and the road through the loser's bracket is longer.
Just so Im clear, due to double elimination rules, Cinci has to be Hali twice in a row to advance to the final 4? That seems a bit silly since we have already had to play an extra game (beating SoA) just to get to this game, double elim or not.
Look at it this way, we have gone 6-1 so far in this tourney to reach this game. Hali has only had to go 4-0 to reach the same game. I realize it's double elim, but that seems like a flaw in the tourney setup. The bonus for not losing should simply be that you have to win fewer games to get to the final four, not that the loser bracket champ has to beat you twice in a row to get past you.
This is pretty standard for a double-elim tournament; winner of the winner's bracket has to lose twice to be knocked out, and the road through the loser's bracket is longer.
Shouldn't there be some sort of loser's final 4 bracket, which feeds back into the winners bracket? Clearly Haliblack shouldn't be eliminated from a double elimination tournament because of 1 loss, but two games in a row against the same opponent, before the tournament finals, seems pretty lame.
coachviking
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Originally posted by coachviking
Still waiting for Boston to accept the challange
Pending Friendly Scrimmages
Date Opponent
03/10/2010 Boston Dogs (R)
Still waiting......
Still waiting for Boston to accept the challange
Pending Friendly Scrimmages
Date Opponent
03/10/2010 Boston Dogs (R)
Still waiting......
lilcokeman
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Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by coachviking
Still waiting for Boston to accept the challange
Pending Friendly Scrimmages
Date Opponent
03/10/2010 Boston Dogs (R)
Still waiting......
His PM still has not been answered. If not accepted on the 10th,
I will unfortunatly have to forfiet him.
Originally posted by coachviking
Still waiting for Boston to accept the challange
Pending Friendly Scrimmages
Date Opponent
03/10/2010 Boston Dogs (R)
Still waiting......
His PM still has not been answered. If not accepted on the 10th,
I will unfortunatly have to forfiet him.
lilcokeman
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Originally posted by Gart888
Shouldn't there be some sort of loser's final 4 bracket, which feeds back into the winners bracket? Clearly Haliblack shouldn't be eliminated from a double elimination tournament because of 1 loss, but two games in a row against the same opponent, before the tournament finals, seems pretty lame.
Would be nice to do that, However, unfortunatly, we always have team that will stall. With only a 40 day Tournament, and teams stalling. Kinda makes it impossible.
Next season, The forfiet dates will be strictly enforced. Maybe then, we will see how it goes.
Yes, it is a standard double elimination format. The conversation could easily be stated, Why are we eliminated, if we only lost one game. Shouldn't the other team be eliminated if they have already lost one game.
I prefer the Doulble elimination, for the fact. If a team builds improve during the season, they will stay have a chance to win it all. At the first of the season to be eliminated, doesn't really show how much your team has improved. We have had teams come back and win from the loser bracket before here.
Shouldn't there be some sort of loser's final 4 bracket, which feeds back into the winners bracket? Clearly Haliblack shouldn't be eliminated from a double elimination tournament because of 1 loss, but two games in a row against the same opponent, before the tournament finals, seems pretty lame.
Would be nice to do that, However, unfortunatly, we always have team that will stall. With only a 40 day Tournament, and teams stalling. Kinda makes it impossible.
Next season, The forfiet dates will be strictly enforced. Maybe then, we will see how it goes.
Yes, it is a standard double elimination format. The conversation could easily be stated, Why are we eliminated, if we only lost one game. Shouldn't the other team be eliminated if they have already lost one game.
I prefer the Doulble elimination, for the fact. If a team builds improve during the season, they will stay have a chance to win it all. At the first of the season to be eliminated, doesn't really show how much your team has improved. We have had teams come back and win from the loser bracket before here.
Edited by lilcokeman on Mar 9, 2010 16:26:35
Edited by lilcokeman on Mar 9, 2010 10:08:06
lilcokeman
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Championship Bracket.
Winner of each Bracket will, should, recieve a Team Home page Trophy! Four Trophies will be awarded, 1st through 4th!
http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=348996&tclass=Championship%20Bracket
Winner of each Bracket will, should, recieve a Team Home page Trophy! Four Trophies will be awarded, 1st through 4th!
http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=348996&tclass=Championship%20Bracket
coachviking
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Originally posted by lilcokeman
Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by coachviking
Still waiting for Boston to accept the challange
Pending Friendly Scrimmages
Date Opponent
03/10/2010 Boston Dogs (R)
Still waiting......
His PM still has not been answered. If not accepted on the 10th,
I will unfortunatly have to forfiet him.
He never accepted
Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by coachviking
Still waiting for Boston to accept the challange
Pending Friendly Scrimmages
Date Opponent
03/10/2010 Boston Dogs (R)
Still waiting......
His PM still has not been answered. If not accepted on the 10th,
I will unfortunatly have to forfiet him.
He never accepted
coachviking
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Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by lilcokeman
Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by coachviking
Still waiting for Boston to accept the challange
Pending Friendly Scrimmages
Date Opponent
03/10/2010 Boston Dogs (R)
Still waiting......
His PM still has not been answered. If not accepted on the 10th,
I will unfortunatly have to forfiet him.
He never accepted
OK as a follow up, the Dogs owner sent me a challenge this AM.....for day 34. I don't know if we could finish the tourney if we don't play that game until then...after that game the winner would still have to play MM and than the entire final 4 would have to play out.
Originally posted by lilcokeman
Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by coachviking
Still waiting for Boston to accept the challange
Pending Friendly Scrimmages
Date Opponent
03/10/2010 Boston Dogs (R)
Still waiting......
His PM still has not been answered. If not accepted on the 10th,
I will unfortunatly have to forfiet him.
He never accepted
OK as a follow up, the Dogs owner sent me a challenge this AM.....for day 34. I don't know if we could finish the tourney if we don't play that game until then...after that game the winner would still have to play MM and than the entire final 4 would have to play out.
csull36
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Originally posted by coachviking
OK as a follow up, the Dogs owner sent me a challenge this AM.....for day 34. I don't know if we could finish the tourney if we don't play that game until then...after that game the winner would still have to play MM and than the entire final 4 would have to play out.
so accept it...
OK as a follow up, the Dogs owner sent me a challenge this AM.....for day 34. I don't know if we could finish the tourney if we don't play that game until then...after that game the winner would still have to play MM and than the entire final 4 would have to play out.
so accept it...
coachviking
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Originally posted by csull36
Originally posted by coachviking
OK as a follow up, the Dogs owner sent me a challenge this AM.....for day 34. I don't know if we could finish the tourney if we don't play that game until then...after that game the winner would still have to play MM and than the entire final 4 would have to play out.
so accept it...
NOT THAT EASY the game is Too late. That's the problem. The guy running this show said we had to have them in already and it isn't my fault that JS went AWOL for a week.
Originally posted by coachviking
OK as a follow up, the Dogs owner sent me a challenge this AM.....for day 34. I don't know if we could finish the tourney if we don't play that game until then...after that game the winner would still have to play MM and than the entire final 4 would have to play out.
so accept it...
NOT THAT EASY the game is Too late. That's the problem. The guy running this show said we had to have them in already and it isn't my fault that JS went AWOL for a week.
lilcokeman
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Originally posted by lilcokeman
Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by coachviking
Still waiting for Boston to accept the challange
Pending Friendly Scrimmages
Date Opponent
03/10/2010 Boston Dogs (R)
Still waiting......
His PM still has not been answered. If not accepted on the 10th,
I will unfortunatly have to forfiet him.
As of March 9th, I had to make a decision. Dogs Owner/agent had been out for about six days. This was noted from his last action, on his home page. I had also sent a PM, in which it was unopened as of March 9th as well. the PM was sent on the 6th of March.
It is with deep regret, that I have to forfiet any team, yet this is what I have to do from time to time. I do have reasons postede in the game details of the brackets.
Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by coachviking
Still waiting for Boston to accept the challange
Pending Friendly Scrimmages
Date Opponent
03/10/2010 Boston Dogs (R)
Still waiting......
His PM still has not been answered. If not accepted on the 10th,
I will unfortunatly have to forfiet him.
As of March 9th, I had to make a decision. Dogs Owner/agent had been out for about six days. This was noted from his last action, on his home page. I had also sent a PM, in which it was unopened as of March 9th as well. the PM was sent on the 6th of March.
It is with deep regret, that I have to forfiet any team, yet this is what I have to do from time to time. I do have reasons postede in the game details of the brackets.
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