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Originally posted by Menamino
Originally posted by jestel


No build may stop it, but:

Stockholm: 22 Strong I Slam Plays (1 was a False Start), 4.16 ypc
Berlin: 21 Strong I Slam Plays 3.1 ypc

Perhaps there's more to this than the play being unstoppable.

Same 'unstoppable play', and apparently everyone's builds are outstanding, so what could be the issue?

Here's a hint...don't blame the sim.




Your power back is better than ours, which is what it comes down to.

We ran 82 plays, you ran 53. So the number of strong I plays compared to the other is irrelevant.

Strong I slam was the 4th highest % called run in our playbook, after 3 wide HB slam and 2 I HB inside runs.

You guys passed 3 times in a non-two minute drill situation, we passed 40 times and ran 42.

And you may have misdirected who you said that to, because like I said before, I'm not angry with stockholm.

u prob passed so much cause u were getting smashed. Bet if it were a close game or you guys were ahead your strong I slam would be alot higher..just my opinion

Originally posted by jestel
Originally posted by piratecalvin

Originally posted by jestel


Originally posted by Menamino



I'll sum up my thoughts in one post so people know what the 'official' berlin stance on this game is

1) Don't blame stockholm for taking advantage of the sheer stupidity of this seasons sim

2) I blame the state of the sim for the loss, not just the power back BS, but the awful pass pressure definition and QB AI currently in the game

Having said that,

the fact that a power back can run up the middle 44 times and break 5 tackles on his 45th carry with seemingly no dropoff in energy or effectiveness is beyond dumb. But again, that's the sim.

I do take issue with people telling us to fix our builds though. That's the most played out argument in GLB. No build stops the strong I slam consistently. No build prevents you from losing energy after getting run on by a power back 44 times while the RB seemingly doesn't lose any. Are my DE's builds the reason they're worthless now? No, it's because people whined all day for seasons and forced Bort to change the sim, even though the well built OTs were shutting down Magnus way back in season 4 (just ask the London Hitmen).

And I think skill position players in this game who spend 900 flex a season to boost should actually see their player do something, yes. I'm not sure what message it sends to your skill position players when you pass 7 times and their guys are just wandering around the field aimlessly for the rest of the game, but it certainly doesn't strike me as saying "keep spending flex on this game! You're a valuable member of the team!"

No build may stop it, but:

Stockholm: 22 Strong I Slam Plays (1 was a False Start), 4.16 ypc
Berlin: 21 Strong I Slam Plays 3.1 ypc

Perhaps there's more to this than the play being unstoppable.

Same 'unstoppable play', and apparently everyone's builds are outstanding, so what could be the issue?

Here's a hint...don't blame the sim.



those 2 huge broken runs kinda skewed those stats

These 2?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=465448&pbp_id=17150261
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=465448&pbp_id=17152294

Wrong play.




my bad, i didnt actually check to see the play, i just assumeddddd. i'm a hypocrite! ok!

Originally posted by piratecalvin
Originally posted by ArthurRiot

Originally posted by piratecalvin


Originally posted by Fat Daddy Cash



Originally posted by MrMoose






Stop kidding yourself. A running back should not be as strong and fast on the 45th carry as he is on the first. You and I both know it is total bullshit. Breaking a pile of tackles early when you're at full strength? Sure, not a problem. Massive broken tackles late in the game shouldn't be happening.



Obviously you've never played football before. Or at least been on the field during a grinding game. There are plenty of backs who get STRONGER as a game goes on. Emmit Smith, Jim Brown, Marshawn Lynch -- to name three off the top of my head. When you have a bruising running game where you're able to rotate OL to beat up on the DL -- that DL gets weaker and weaker as the game goes on and the HBs get stronger and stronger.

Factor in demoralizing factors in addition to fatigue and in REAL football this absolutely happens.

But GLB isn't real football. It isn't close to it.

Oh and you can say all you want about how you "We could have run 70 ties a game and probably won. Instead, we tried to make sure the entire team got to have some fun with the players they are paying real money for" -- that's nice and good. But wouldn't those people be having more fun if they were playing in Round 2?

depends on your definition of 'play'. i'm sure sitdown enjoyed his runningback's stats on his 6 plays with no carries.

Awww, go speak at the players union meeting, then.

hey its not my problem, i'm just saying i wouldnt pay money for that kind of 'playing'. but it is interesting that you have given up trying to defend your power running logic and resorted to personal attacks. running out of material?

Running out of purpose. There's no room in your mind for anything other than 'it's all your fault'.

And the power back shouldn't be the only weapon next season ... I would be the first to agree with that.

The fact is we have a ton of great players on our team. We have designed it that way. I personally feel our WR corps is the best in WEPL -- but we don't get to use them like we should because the Passing Game is so fucked. Doesn't mean we won't use them once it's fixed.

The key to this game is being able to adapt. Just like in real football.

I think we've assembled a roster that can adapt. If Power Backs are nerfed some next year (and they should be) we will be able to adjust thanks to the players we have. And that's the key here.

Originally posted by ArthurRiot

Running out of purpose. There's no room in your mind for anything other than 'it's all your fault'.


i'm always open to convincing by people with reasonable arguments that aren't just based on assumptions.

Originally posted by Fat Daddy Cash
And the power back shouldn't be the only weapon next season ... I would be the first to agree with that.

The fact is we have a ton of great players on our team. We have designed it that way. I personally feel our WR corps is the best in WEPL -- but we don't get to use them like we should because the Passing Game is so fucked. Doesn't mean we won't use them once it's fixed.

The key to this game is being able to adapt. Just like in real football.

I think we've assembled a roster that can adapt. If Power Backs are nerfed some next year (and they should be) we will be able to adjust thanks to the players we have. And that's the key here.

sorry FDC, passing game is not fucked.

Originally posted by coreyls18
Originally posted by Fat Daddy Cash

And the power back shouldn't be the only weapon next season ... I would be the first to agree with that.

The fact is we have a ton of great players on our team. We have designed it that way. I personally feel our WR corps is the best in WEPL -- but we don't get to use them like we should because the Passing Game is so fucked. Doesn't mean we won't use them once it's fixed.

The key to this game is being able to adapt. Just like in real football.

I think we've assembled a roster that can adapt. If Power Backs are nerfed some next year (and they should be) we will be able to adjust thanks to the players we have. And that's the key here.

sorry FDC, passing game is not fucked.

Pipe down AAA

Originally posted by coreyls18
Originally posted by Fat Daddy Cash

And the power back shouldn't be the only weapon next season ... I would be the first to agree with that.

The fact is we have a ton of great players on our team. We have designed it that way. I personally feel our WR corps is the best in WEPL -- but we don't get to use them like we should because the Passing Game is so fucked. Doesn't mean we won't use them once it's fixed.

The key to this game is being able to adapt. Just like in real football.

I think we've assembled a roster that can adapt. If Power Backs are nerfed some next year (and they should be) we will be able to adjust thanks to the players we have. And that's the key here.

sorry FDC, passing game is not fucked.

It is for us

Originally posted by coreyls18

u prob passed so much cause u were getting smashed. Bet if it were a close game or you guys were ahead your strong I slam would be alot higher..just my opinion

In what world is trailing 16-10 in the 4th quarter and outgaining your opponent by 80 yards getting smashed?

Originally posted by Joebarber

Pipe down AAA

I lol'd

Originally posted by Joebarber
Originally posted by coreyls18

Originally posted by Fat Daddy Cash


And the power back shouldn't be the only weapon next season ... I would be the first to agree with that.

The fact is we have a ton of great players on our team. We have designed it that way. I personally feel our WR corps is the best in WEPL -- but we don't get to use them like we should because the Passing Game is so fucked. Doesn't mean we won't use them once it's fixed.

The key to this game is being able to adapt. Just like in real football.

I think we've assembled a roster that can adapt. If Power Backs are nerfed some next year (and they should be) we will be able to adjust thanks to the players we have. And that's the key here.

sorry FDC, passing game is not fucked.

Pipe down AAA

rofl

Originally posted by Menamino
Originally posted by jestel


No build may stop it, but:

Stockholm: 22 Strong I Slam Plays (1 was a False Start), 4.16 ypc
Berlin: 21 Strong I Slam Plays 3.1 ypc

Perhaps there's more to this than the play being unstoppable.

Same 'unstoppable play', and apparently everyone's builds are outstanding, so what could be the issue?

Here's a hint...don't blame the sim.




Your power back is better than ours, which is what it comes down to.

We ran 82 plays, you ran 53. So the number of strong I plays compared to the other is irrelevant.

Strong I slam was the 4th highest % called run in our playbook, after 3 wide HB slam and 2 I HB inside runs.

You guys passed 3 times in a non-two minute drill situation, we passed 40 times and ran 42.

And you may have misdirected who you said that to, because like I said before, I'm not angry with stockholm.

My comments are based upon the accusation that Stockholm solely ran an obvious exploit play in order to win. I used your post because it has more reasonable thoughts to discuss, and wasn't just a load of whining.

A) That wasn't the most called formation
B) That wasn't our most successful formation
C) Passing has never been our forte, and as you obviously expected, we didn't do a lot of it.

All I'm saying is that both teams similarly used the evil "exploit" play. We had a little better success with it than you, but we had better success with other plays as well.

We're a running team, I think everyone, including our own players know that by now. You're definitely a better passing team. 2 opposite playstyles approaching the game. You (not you specifically) can't expect the numbers to have the same splits from teams with opposite playstyles.

We played our game, you played yours. We used our resources, and you used yours. No one used any 'exploit play' to steal this victory.

Originally posted by piratecalvin
Originally posted by Joebarber

Originally posted by coreyls18


Originally posted by Fat Daddy Cash



And the power back shouldn't be the only weapon next season ... I would be the first to agree with that.

The fact is we have a ton of great players on our team. We have designed it that way. I personally feel our WR corps is the best in WEPL -- but we don't get to use them like we should because the Passing Game is so fucked. Doesn't mean we won't use them once it's fixed.

The key to this game is being able to adapt. Just like in real football.

I think we've assembled a roster that can adapt. If Power Backs are nerfed some next year (and they should be) we will be able to adjust thanks to the players we have. And that's the key here.

sorry FDC, passing game is not fucked.

Pipe down AAA

rofl

I think we can all agree on this one.

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Originally posted by Wrath Of Conor
Hey now, the pAAAris musketeers have hAAAd a fine seAAAson

Now that's funny shit.

except I think it should have been this:

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Originally posted by jestel
Originally posted by Wrath Of Conor

Hey now, the pAAAris musketeers have hAAAd a fine seAAAson

Now that's funny shit.

except I think it should have been this:

Hey now, the pAAAris musketeers hAAAve hAAAd AAA fine seAAAson

lol

love it.

can we just start calling him CAAArAAAy SmAAAth?