Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Kayoh
CBs are CBs because they're WRs that can't catch. That's kind of what separates the two positions, other than the obvious instincts, which CBs need to have.

This is what my football coach in high school told us right before he stuck me at CB... :/

Originally posted by fallingmercury
There are too many examples of highly successful CBs with like 32 catching to make me think catching is all that important...

you could probably switch the term catching for jumping and say the same thing.

Originally posted by fallingmercury
There are too many examples of highly successful CBs with like 32 catching to make me think catching is all that important...

With Succesful i guess u mean ints?

Could be because those CB play in lower leagues than they should and they just get a lot of changes so eventually they will catch the ball?

Jumping

I say catching = jumping

Problem solved :-)

jumping is vertical wise while catching is reach for a CB

Originally posted by rlawrence
I say catching = jumping

Problem solved :-)

+ 1

very simple answer to this question.

In the case of an aggressive interceptor and general shut down CB, then Catching should be higher than jumping.

Reason for this is on an aggressive intercept try your CB moves to the highest point in which he can jump to get that interception, then based on his catching he sees if he can make it.

the higher you have to jump and the lower the catching skill, the more chance you miss the int and end up giving up a big play.

If your catching is higher he goes for a 'safer' int (closer to the receiver and it has a better chance of success) and has a better base chance at making the INT because of his greater catching.

If you are planning on only going for PDs, then jumping and catching near eachother is good.

if you have jumping much higher than catching, NEVER GO FOR A PICK

you will miss 10x more picks than you will make, it is terrible to watch.

Originally posted by Viscount
If it was jumping that gets your hands on the ball in the first place the other CBs in those games I posted would have as many PDs as the CB I mentioned as they all have the same jumping! He's getting 10+ PDs a game covering 100 speed WRs with 60 jumping.

It's fine if you disagree with me, you're entitled to your own opinion but the evidence is there.

I'm assuming your CB has reasonable jumping and low catching? Well I don't know if you knoww this but so far this season your CB has only deflected 40% of the passes to the WR he was covering.

I've noticed that CBs with lesser builds tend to get more pass deflections and even to a point more interceptions because more balls are thrown there way. I see it all the time. Put a CB with 90 speed, agility and vision on the field and he'll likely record very few snaps because QBs wont throw the ball at him. Put a CB with 105 speed, 74 agility and 61 vision on the field and he is likely to rack up stats because he is constantly targeted.

I have a couple corners that have catching capped and they combined for one interception last season while my SS with 16 catching got 5 picks. My Cbs with catching in the 30s also got a lot more picks. Not saying that is the reason but it certainly doesn't back up catching being more important.

Originally posted by PierreThomas
Originally posted by Viscount

If it was jumping that gets your hands on the ball in the first place the other CBs in those games I posted would have as many PDs as the CB I mentioned as they all have the same jumping! He's getting 10+ PDs a game covering 100 speed WRs with 60 jumping.

It's fine if you disagree with me, you're entitled to your own opinion but the evidence is there.

I'm assuming your CB has reasonable jumping and low catching? Well I don't know if you knoww this but so far this season your CB has only deflected 40% of the passes to the WR he was covering.

I've noticed that CBs with lesser builds tend to get more pass deflections and even to a point more interceptions because more balls are thrown there way. I see it all the time. Put a CB with 90 speed, agility and vision on the field and he'll likely record very few snaps because QBs wont throw the ball at him. Put a CB with 105 speed, 74 agility and 61 vision on the field and he is likely to rack up stats because he is constantly targeted.

I have a couple corners that have catching capped and they combined for one interception last season while my SS with 16 catching got 5 picks. My Cbs with catching in the 30s also got a lot more picks. Not saying that is the reason but it certainly doesn't back up catching being more important.

well if you get on a team where all CBs are built great then the QB has to throw at one of them. But you better also have a good LOLB.

Jumping is for defense reasons! if you can jump higher than the WR then you win!

Originally posted by skyline008
Jumping is for defense reasons! if you can jump higher than the WR then you win!

Untrue story.

My CB's jumping is about 6 points higher than catching right now but for the majority of his career he has had them basically even. He is a career-slow builder and his level isn't very high, but as soon as he got a starting job with his even catching jumping he has put up solid but unspectacular numbers that are probably attributed to his well roundedness in his attributes. So I think that balance in stats will always put up solid numbers, but when you start to exaggerate some attributes it causes mixed results and the combination of attributes is what affects what is more valuable. For example for a strong corner jumping might be more important because he might have to stretch out more being out of position, but for a speedy corner catching might be more important because he is going to be right on the receiver's hip the entire time.

Originally posted by PierreThomas
Originally posted by Viscount

If it was jumping that gets your hands on the ball in the first place the other CBs in those games I posted would have as many PDs as the CB I mentioned as they all have the same jumping! He's getting 10+ PDs a game covering 100 speed WRs with 60 jumping.

It's fine if you disagree with me, you're entitled to your own opinion but the evidence is there.

I'm assuming your CB has reasonable jumping and low catching? Well I don't know if you knoww this but so far this season your CB has only deflected 40% of the passes to the WR he was covering.

I've noticed that CBs with lesser builds tend to get more pass deflections and even to a point more interceptions because more balls are thrown there way. I see it all the time. Put a CB with 90 speed, agility and vision on the field and he'll likely record very few snaps because QBs wont throw the ball at him. Put a CB with 105 speed, 74 agility and 61 vision on the field and he is likely to rack up stats because he is constantly targeted.

I have a couple corners that have catching capped and they combined for one interception last season while my SS with 16 catching got 5 picks. My Cbs with catching in the 30s also got a lot more picks. Not saying that is the reason but it certainly doesn't back up catching being more important.

This is very true. My CB is hardly ever targetted therefore I don't rack up stats however I see lesser builds racking up INTs and PDs.

I think vision>jumping>catching. :-p