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Originally posted by James128
Originally posted by Auris

Originally posted by James128


For those AAA teams who think they should be on this list please stop. I don't care about you running the table in A AA AAA unless it's in the USA ladder. Great streaks that you have come to die in Pro leagues. This list should have only pro teams on it. Mayan... you guys lost 6 games in the worst of the 2 Can pro conferences. Osaka Buckeyes streak ended in the AAA playoffs. They haven't played a pro game yet and people want to add them to this list. This is a nice list to debate.


No AAA? Ok, so why is Washington Wolfpacks in this list? They lost in the second round of USA AAA#2 last season and were promoted by Bort realigment...


I don't think they should be on this list. They wouldn't of been on mine


this is about the future and not the past imo. they are in great position for the future. Painmaker has a billion WELL BUILT players coming through the ranks. He is going to be one of the power players of the game very soon.

Right now the power players are people like Saris, Harper, Serenity, Asheme, etc. When that generation of players begins to decline, it will be the guys like Painmaker and PP who step into the lead for a few seasons.

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Well the weird thing is you can't even track trades accurately. Our team had some trades that don't show up in our history. I'm not sure why that is, it might have something to do with a team changing names or owners which might pull them off the report.
 
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Right now the power players are people like Saris, Harper, Serenity, Asheme, etc. When that generation of players begins to decline, it will be the guys like Painmaker and PP who step into the lead for a few seasons.



PP and Painmaker have players of the same generation as the people you mention. At a quick glance, most of their players were created in season 1, and a few in season two. Outside of a handful of lower level players, neither of them has a massive army of low level, well built players ready to make up the bulk of a teams roster.

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Good stuff SI.


quote I never dreamed I'd see


I was waiting for another post calling me a moron.

I'm speechless
 
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Right now the power players are people like Saris, Harper, Serenity, Asheme, etc. When that generation of players begins to decline, it will be the guys like Painmaker and PP who step into the lead for a few seasons.



PP and Painmaker have players of the same generation as the people you mention. At a quick glance, most of their players were created in season 1, and a few in season two. Outside of a handful of lower level players, neither of them has a massive army of low level, well built players ready to make up the bulk of a teams roster.



did Painmaker retire some players? I haven't looked at his list lately, but it doesn't seem to be as many as I recall.

It seems like he has teamed up with Hazy who also has a number of players.

I need to revisit this and check on who has players of what age anymore. Thanks.
 
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I had OFG at like #12 briefly. I need to do some more research. I know that TheDuffMan has his own little army and is going to be a major player for some time also.

Shockers also need some more attention. List will soon be top 20.
 
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So, keep upgrading is the rule to make this list? I'm very proud that we (Compton Vikings) didn't make this list then. I'd rather lose than replace my friends for higher levels.


It has been the most successful model and was followed by almost every team in the top 25.

And have fun losing with your friends in USA Pro. We'll see how long your friends want to stay on a 6-10 team that loses 1/2 of those games by 30+ points. It will get really old really quickly. Maybe you guys can work your asses off and pull a 8-8 season before you realize that you are going to have to wait 4-5 seasons before you catch up in level (if then). You will be demoted before then though.

Good luck (and I sincerely mean that).


Wait, I thought W/L didn't matter, now they came to matter again?! If so, why is Cobra Kai and Lima Beans in your list? o_O
 
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Originally posted by SteelersInsider
I had OFG at like #12 briefly. I need to do some more research. I know that TheDuffMan has his own little army and is going to be a major player for some time also.

Shockers also need some more attention. List will soon be top 20.


I'd have to agree that ***O*** and the Shockers deserve to be on the list. Both are 1st class teams in every aspect of the game.
 
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Needs more Kai
 
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Originally posted by SteelersInsider
Originally posted by The Duff Man

Originally posted by SteelersInsider




Right now the power players are people like Saris, Harper, Serenity, Asheme, etc. When that generation of players begins to decline, it will be the guys like Painmaker and PP who step into the lead for a few seasons.



PP and Painmaker have players of the same generation as the people you mention. At a quick glance, most of their players were created in season 1, and a few in season two. Outside of a handful of lower level players, neither of them has a massive army of low level, well built players ready to make up the bulk of a teams roster.



did Painmaker retire some players? I haven't looked at his list lately, but it doesn't seem to be as many as I recall.

It seems like he has teamed up with Hazy who also has a number of players.

I need to revisit this and check on who has players of what age anymore. Thanks.


Pain has been slowly but surely integrating other very active owners with builds equal or better to his existing players.
For example, at WR he's added 3 non-Pain WR's, however, he's kept his best personal WR on the team (Red Ramage) as well as a WR that fits the role he is needed for perfectly (Dealey). Both played critical roles in the offense this past season. I can speak for this first hand as the OC.

It's not even a matter of playing favorites with other owners. The best players start, not just other agent owners. I've got a RG who starts, and a RT who backs up. The RT took the place of Access Denied, and Roberts build is virtually the same. He was backing up on Halifax before that. So again, no dropoffs here to be found.

I guess my point is, he's replacing his own players when the right opportunity presents.

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Originally posted by SteelersInsider
I had OFG at like #12 briefly. I need to do some more research. I know that TheDuffMan has his own little army and is going to be a major player for some time also.

Shockers also need some more attention. List will soon be top 20.


Tough making any list that small. I think this is how your original top 100 ranking got that big.
 
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So did you have to remove a rib to suck yourself off, or are you just naturally flexible?
 
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Always skirting these lists.
 
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Two teams that come to mind off being in the top would be Pa Dong Dragons and Osaka Buckeyes and Bogota Roosters.
 
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