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This needs to be put in ASAP. Offenses are just getting more and more help.

Originally posted by rs2k2
Why can't we just have formation DCs (and new formations)?

Click on a formation and a set of positions pop up:

5-2: RDE, RDT, NT, LDT, LDE, MLB, LOLB, CB1, CB2, FS, SS
4-3: RDE, DT, NT, LDE, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, CB1, CB2, FS, SS
3-4: RDE, NT, LDE, ROLB, RILB, LILB, LOLB, CB1, CB2, FS, SS
2-5: DT, NT, ROLB, RILB, MLB, LILB, LOLB, CB1, CB2, FS, SS

Nickel425: RDE, DT, NT, LDE, MLB, LOLB, CB1, CB2, CB3, FS, SS
Nickel335: RDE, NT, LDE, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, CB1, CB2, CB3, FS, SS
Nickel245: DT, NT, ROLB, RILB, LILB, LOLB, CB1, CB2, CB3, FS, SS
Nickel155: NT, ROLB, RILB, MLB, LILB, LOLB, CB1, CB2, CB3, FS, SS

Okay I'm probably being a bit ambitious but part of being a defense is being unpredictable.


Ambitious or not, this could be introduced over a couple seasons. Going with the 5-2, 4-3, 3-4, and the 4-2-5 and 3-3-5 Nickles would be a good start. Then, as Bort and his team get stuff added, they can work in the other formations and work out the bugs.

Man i really need this bad!!!!! At least have it on offense where we can designate NT1 or NT2!!! Cause right now we just have to hope we have the players in whent the situation arrives.

Originally posted by blitz2670
Originally posted by rs2k2

Why can't we just have formation DCs (and new formations)?

Click on a formation and a set of positions pop up:

5-2: RDE, RDT, NT, LDT, LDE, MLB, LOLB, CB1, CB2, FS, SS
4-3: RDE, DT, NT, LDE, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, CB1, CB2, FS, SS
3-4: RDE, NT, LDE, ROLB, RILB, LILB, LOLB, CB1, CB2, FS, SS
2-5: DT, NT, ROLB, RILB, MLB, LILB, LOLB, CB1, CB2, FS, SS

Nickel425: RDE, DT, NT, LDE, MLB, LOLB, CB1, CB2, CB3, FS, SS
Nickel335: RDE, NT, LDE, ROLB, MLB, LOLB, CB1, CB2, CB3, FS, SS
Nickel245: DT, NT, ROLB, RILB, LILB, LOLB, CB1, CB2, CB3, FS, SS
Nickel155: NT, ROLB, RILB, MLB, LILB, LOLB, CB1, CB2, CB3, FS, SS

Okay I'm probably being a bit ambitious but part of being a defense is being unpredictable.


Ambitious or not, this could be introduced over a couple seasons. Going with the 5-2, 4-3, 3-4, and the 4-2-5 and 3-3-5 Nickles would be a good start. Then, as Bort and his team get stuff added, they can work in the other formations and work out the bugs.


Agreed.

Is this ever going to happen? It doesn't seem like Bort cares, this was one of the first Epic suggestions. It also seems like it wouldn't be too difficult to implement.

We have FB1, FB2, etc on offense. A similar custom DC for DEs (at least) would allow for more reasonable use of the 3-4.

It could promote use of the 3-4, encourage strength based DE builds (an anti-cookie cutter move), and allow for pass rush specialists and run down specialists for either the 3-4 or 4-3.

Personally, I think more custom depth charts on defense would be a great move.

I think the position change hit should be less for moving DEs to OLB and DT to DE.

Originally posted by regoob2
I think the position change hit should be less for moving DEs to OLB and DT to DE.

True, in the 3-4 formation the DE should be able to play the DT, DE, or OLB spots, with minimal penalties for the OLB spot, and virtually no penalty for playing DT.

With as many tweeners coming out of college, the penalty for DE to OLB should be next to nill. Same with DT really, it shouldn't be more than 5% tops.

And really, why is this still not implemented? People having been begging for this (myself included) for a few seasons now. Pleeeeeeese Bort

At least it's in Epic, that's a start.

we should have complete control over the depth chart for every formation offensive or defensive, it would make scouting that much more of a key element to the game, and make the scout tool from greasemonkey a smaller crutch for people as they would have to actually watch game film to get a grip of what "packages" teams are running on offense and defense

Originally posted by blitz2670
Originally posted by regoob2

I think the position change hit should be less for moving DEs to OLB and DT to DE.

True, in the 3-4 formation the DE should be able to play the DT, DE, or OLB spots, with minimal penalties for the OLB spot, and virtually no penalty for playing DT.

A 4-3 DE wouldnt play NT in a 3-4. The DE could play DE or OLB in the 3-4. The DT could play NT or DE.

The Def. DC options really need to be adjusted for this sort of thing.

Originally posted by regoob2
Originally posted by blitz2670

Originally posted by regoob2


I think the position change hit should be less for moving DEs to OLB and DT to DE.

True, in the 3-4 formation the DE should be able to play the DT, DE, or OLB spots, with minimal penalties for the OLB spot, and virtually no penalty for playing DT.

A 4-3 DE wouldnt play NT in a 3-4. The DE could play DE or OLB in the 3-4. The DT could play NT or DE.

That would depend on how much STRENGTH the DE has, but for the most part, yes, that does make sense, DE or OLB, not NT.