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melon27
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Originally posted by Kenshinzen
Don't know how many in here know of a "known exploit/bug" but persoanally don't have an idea what this is.


The known bug is the double equipment bug on player creation. Whether anyone really mastered the art of making double gear, no idea. The point is that the double equipment bug has been around forever and never been resolved.

I don't believe anyone besides the boys and bort/dd know the actual thing they were banned for yet. And despite my million attempts to get it out of my "butt buddies" (according to TommyPoo), I haven't been able to get the real answer.

I'll try asking them politely again at the dinner table tonight and pass it on to all of you.

*Edit*

For those of you running the speed script, this tends to support the crazy high equipment numbers, they compare to my 186-190 speed receiver that was running +86 eq in speed. But ballhawk and SAs can also boost speed over 50.

Speed
Average Speed 38.93
Maximum Speed 56.18
Point of Max 10 ticks
Average Acceleration 4.03
Max Acceleration 30.00
Point of Max Accel 1 ticks



Edited by melon27 on Dec 17, 2025 11:38:03
 
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Turn NJG scrims on we can find out rather quickly
 
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Originally posted by melon27
The known bug is the double equipment bug on player creation. Whether anyone really mastered the art of making double gear, no idea. The point is that the double equipment bug has been around forever and never been resolved.

I don't believe anyone besides the boys and bort/dd know the actual thing they were banned for yet. And despite my million attempts to get it out of my "butt buddies" (according to TommyPoo), I haven't been able to get the real answer.

I'll try asking them politely again at the dinner table tonight and pass it on to all of you.

*Edit*

For those of you running the speed script, this tends to support the crazy high equipment numbers, they compare to my 186-190 speed receiver that was running +86 eq in speed. But ballhawk and SAs can also boost speed over 50.

Speed
Average Speed 38.93
Maximum Speed 56.18
Point of Max 10 ticks
Average Acceleration 4.03
Max Acceleration 30.00
Point of Max Accel 1 ticks



Just noting Avg speed on streaks is a better indicator, since first step does lol-bumps over 100% for a few ticks.

I've watched enough 170 spd dots that I don't *think* it was a speed thing on offense.
 
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Just noting Avg speed on streaks is a better indicator, since first step does lol-bumps over 100% for a few ticks.

I've watched enough 170 spd dots that I don't *think* it was a speed thing on offense.


Which was your max speeder again? Maul? Sidious? Just trying to find another one to compare to. My dude was fast but secondary would match his speed and even go over it with ball hawk. Pissed me off, couldn't even cheat my way past ball hawk.......

Still noticeably faster, particularly because I could fill up all the speed boosting SAs(Quick Cut, First step, route running, etc). Had I known the equipment was gonna stick around till max, my build would've been loads better. Instead it was meh because I had 1400 BT at lvl 79 that was worth so much less than if I had utilized it earlier.



 
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Originally posted by MizzouDizzle2
What was the exploit? Im just genuinely curious.


It's called reading, top to bottom, left to right, group words together into sentences.
 
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Originally posted by RyanCane26
Turn NJG scrims on we can find out rather quickly


Ran a scrim which you can see since you have a player on PW. NJG's QB Hawktua: PJ's only threw 2 TD's, but 5 picks so something changed as both teams ran the same O and D.

Support PM back from DD about the ticket I put in:

I'll pass this on to Bort.

 
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Bort vaguely said he addressed the situation so he might have based off an easy test as that
 
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Originally posted by Mauler
Ran a scrim which you can see since you have a player on PW. NJG's QB Hawktua: PJ's only threw 2 TD's, but 5 picks so something changed as both teams ran the same O and D.

Support PM back from DD about the ticket I put in:

I'll pass this on to Bort.



Cool story, have you also used the PJ special to throw the first three passes via screens purposely into triple coverage?
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/game.pl?game_id=69429&mode=pbp

Wtf are we talking about here.. still using dots from banned agents which are now recognized as cheaters?
NGTH. The builds are closed, so we will never know if they were fixed or not.

And for robbing teams unfairly in Pro1 for the last 3 seasons with cheating dots, you shall pay the price.
 
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Originally posted by Tomcic
Cool story, have you also used the PJ special to throw the first three passes via screens purposely into triple coverage?
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/game.pl?game_id=69429&mode=pbp

Wtf are we talking about here.. still using dots from banned agents which are now recognized as cheaters?
NGTH. The builds are closed, so we will never know if they were fixed or not.

And for robbing teams unfairly in Pro1 for the last 3 seasons with cheating dots, you shall pay the price.


Bort took the builds affected off Mob. We are talking about how we are going to still kick your ass with normal builds. We are elite scrub
 
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Originally posted by PLAYMAKERS
Bort took the builds affected off Mob. We are talking about how we are going to still kick your ass with normal builds. We are elite scrub


We will see about that minus your 27 cheating dots from PJ, Pwned, Morbidfox and Co.
 
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Originally posted by jcross
Bort vaguely said he addressed the situation so he might have based off an easy test as that


If your talking about what Bort wrote on Dec. 16th it really mentioned nothing about their players on other teams directly. If it did none of this back and forth BS would be going on in the first place or at least it shouldn't be.

 
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Originally posted by PLAYMAKERS
Bort took the builds affected off Mob. We are talking about how we are going to still kick your ass with normal builds. We are elite cheaters


fixed.
 
Tomcic
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Originally posted by Mauler
If your talking about what Bort wrote on Dec. 16th it really mentioned nothing about their players on other teams directly. If it did none of this back and forth BS would be going on in the first place or at least it shouldn't be.



There is a reason why those cheaterable pricks kept their builds closed.
on NJG, and yes, on Dotball Disciples the last 3 seasons.

Can you see their builds?
if yes, post them and prove how they are "fixed" .
If not, then kiss them goodbye

Edit: Not on Mob since they were owner/co-owner with no coaches
Edited by Tomcic on Dec 18, 2025 14:28:05
Edited by Tomcic on Dec 18, 2025 14:27:35
 
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Bort is just catering to Crying Cane and the rest of his veteran crew of multi cheaters like pinkdog. Omg like 2 players on Mob had some edge. Generals was a start to finish team. pJ was there the whole time. His builds were open most of it. We just merged with Alamo once too many builds fell off and he wanted to coordinate another team since that is the norm for elite coords up here to have an edge just in case a bad sim. Plus NJ had some elite builds to play with.
 
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Originally posted by Tomcic
Cool story, have you also used the PJ special to throw the first three passes via screens purposely into triple coverage?
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/game.pl?game_id=69429&mode=pbp

Wtf are we talking about here.. still using dots from banned agents which are now recognized as cheaters?
NGTH. The builds are closed, so we will never know if they were fixed or not.

And for robbing teams unfairly in Pro1 for the last 3 seasons with cheating dots, you shall pay the price.


FYI: Basically used the O NJG ran most of the Season. Only Bort knows the truth about the builds in their current state which is independent of your feelings about the kid. When my brother passed he basically ran NJG as I didn't have the time or really the desire TBH. So when I found out he did this it was a real kick in the balls to me. Why you need to cheat in a old online game like this just blows my mind.

 
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