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How we gonna know who is exploiting going forward and what is the equipment hack?

Hacking an ancient computer game is the lowest.
 
Tomcic
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Originally posted by RyanCane26
Catch22 didn't win a fraction of the games Mob did


Because, lets give PJ some flowers, he knew how to coordinate compared to C22.

But here, some of the old Cernet Builds:

Originally posted by Tomcic
Belle Soren Gunness (Lv. 79 HB)
Ht/Wt: 6'2", 180lbs


Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 72
Speed: 152.1 (+49)
Agility: 100.1 (+6)
Jumping: 65.26
Stamina: 71.26
Vision: 46.26
Confidence: 30.26

Football Skills
Blocking: 6
Catching: 82.1
Tackling: 8
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 82.1
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Elusive Back Abilities
Quick Cut: 8
Head Fake: 6
First Step: 7
Juke: 12
Spin: 6

Power Back Abilities
Cover Up: 0
Lower the Shoulder: 0
Stiff Arm: 0
Power Through: 0
Dive for Yardage: 0

Additional Abilities
Scat Back: 5
Catch Fake: 4
Veteran Abilities
Blocking Back: 2
Soft Hands: 15
Mr. Reliable: 15
Quick Feet: 15
Slippery: 15
YAC attack: 9

Current Bonuses/Penalties
Catching: +6.16
Spin chance: +30%
Head Fake chance: +30%
Hurdle chance: +30%
Juke chance: +30%
Catch ball chance: +15%
Fake chance: +15%

Richard Kuklinski (Lv. 79 G)
Ht/Wt: 6'5", 290lbs


Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 156 (+55)
Speed: 81
Agility: 90.1
Jumping: 10
Stamina: 73
Vision: 73.1
Confidence: 62.1

Football Skills
Blocking: 91.1
Catching: 8
Tackling: 8
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Pass Blocking Abilities
Pass Block: 10
Strong Arm: 3
Shock Block: 3
Foundation: 5
Absorb Pain: 7

Run Blocking Abilities
Run Block: 2
Get Low: 3
Hands: 2
Cut Block: 2
Pancake: 0

Additional Abilities
Aura of Intimidation: 10
Pummel: 6
Veteran Abilities
Intimidating: 15
Pass Blocker: 15
Pocket Defender: 15
Power Blocker: 15
Pulling Lineman: 11

Current Bonuses/Penalties
Hold block chance: +22.5%


Mac Gyver (Lv. 73 FB)
Ht/Wt: 6'4", 245lbs


Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 97.16
Speed: 142.36 (+52)
Agility: 85.36
Jumping: 10
Stamina: 70.36
Vision: 57.16
Confidence: 26.16

Football Skills
Blocking: 88.36
Catching: 8
Tackling: 76.36
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Blocking Abilities
Hands: 3
Lead Block: 1
Spot Blitz: 1
Strong Arm: 1
Pancake: 1

Offensive Abilities
Cover Up: 0
Sticky Hands: 0
Power Through: 0
Quick Cut: 0
Dive for Yardage: 0

Additional Abilities
Pummel: 4
Veteran Abilities
Great Blocker: 11
Workout Warrior: 15
Clutch: 15
Distance Runner: 15
Special Teamer: 15

Current Bonuses/Penalties
Strength: +4.37
Blocking: +4.86
Force fumble chance: +15%
Hold block chance: +21%

Angelo Buono Jr. (Lv. 79 DT)
Ht/Wt: 6'0", 275lbs


Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 144 (+55)
Speed: 82.1
Agility: 103.1
Jumping: 58
Stamina: 76
Vision: 69.1
Confidence: 46

Football Skills
Blocking: 8
Catching: 8
Tackling: 81.1
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Pass Rusher Abilities
The Glare: 11
Shed Blocks: 11
Swat Ball: 5
Strong Base: 7
Big Sack: 1

Run Stuffer Abilities
Wall: 2
Break Through: 3
Snarl: 6
Big Hit: 6
D-Line General: 6

Additional Abilities
Aura of Intimidation: 10
Veteran Abilities
Bull Rusher: 11
Helmet Crash: 15
Intimidating: 15
Pass Rusher: 15
Technique Man: 15

Current Bonuses/Penalties
Make tackle chance: +15%
Break block chance: +21%


Different Strokes (Lv. 73 LB)
Ht/Wt: 6'2", 255lbs


Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 84.84
Speed: 155.6 (+52)
Agility: 84.84
Jumping: 33.6
Stamina: 70.6
Vision: 62.84
Confidence: 21.6

Football Skills
Blocking: 8
Catching: 8
Tackling: 76.84
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Hard Hitter Abilities
Snarl: 2
Aura of Intimidation: 3
Diving Tackle: 4
Monster Hit: 7
Defense General: 7

Pass Rusher Abilities
Trash Talk: 0
The Glare: 0
Shed Blocks: 0
Swat Ball: 0
Big Sack: 0

Additional Abilities
Big Hit: 2
Veteran Abilities
Textbook Tackler: 11
Helmet Crash: 15
Natural Leader: 15
Power Tackler: 15
Sure Tackler: 15

Current Bonuses/Penalties
Tackling: +4.23
Force fumble chance: +21%

Richard Ramirez (Lv. 79 LB)
Ht/Wt: 6'4", 220lbs


Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 80.26
Speed: 158.1 (+55)
Agility: 87.1
Jumping: 76.1
Stamina: 66.26
Vision: 87.1
Confidence: 30.26

Football Skills
Blocking: 8
Catching: 8
Tackling: 73.26
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Hard Hitter Abilities
Snarl: 11
Aura of Intimidation: 11
Diving Tackle: 3
Monster Hit: 3
Defense General: 1

Pass Rusher Abilities
Trash Talk: 1
The Glare: 1
Shed Blocks: 2
Swat Ball: 4
Big Sack: 0

Additional Abilities
Shutdown Coverage: 8
Superior Vision: 6
Veteran Abilities
Helmet Crash: 15
Intimidating: 15
Long Reach: 15
Showboat: 15
Third Down Stopper: 11

Current Bonuses/Penalties
Make tackle chance: +15%
Avoid fake chance: +15%
Deflect ball chance: +15%

Scott Peterson (Lv. 79 CB)
Ht/Wt: 6'3", 190lbs


Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 72.1
Speed: 158.1 (+55)
Agility: 89.1
Jumping: 77.26
Stamina: 71.26
Vision: 77.26
Confidence: 36.26

Football Skills
Blocking: 8
Catching: 8
Tackling: 81.1
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Shutdown Corner Abilities
Swat Ball: 1
Sticky Hands: 0
Superior Vision: 0
Smooth Operator: 0
Shutdown Coverage: 0

Speedster Abilities
First Step: 5
Change Direction: 5
Return Specialist: 6
Blitz: 11
Closing Speed: 1

Additional Abilities
Aura of Intimidation: 10
Disguise Blitz: 10
Head of Steam: 10
Veteran Abilities
Quick: 11
Track Star: 15
Intimidating: 15
Jump the Snap: 15
Pass Rusher: 15

Current Bonuses/Penalties
Speed: +4.64
Agility: +2.94
Make tackle chance: +15%
Avoid fake chance: +15%




So you can't compare it to the new batch/dot quality
 
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Originally posted by Gambler75
Not trying to fight with melon here ... But, it certainly seems like it had to be something else - for the following reasons:

1) Obvious - you wouldn't end at +55 with doubled gear?

2) Hard to explain having the bonus tokens for +105 in extra SAs, and enough to outright buy 3AEQ (4AEQ in some cases)

3) An insane amount of extra skill points in the build, to fill out a metric ass ton of SAs to 10, including end of the tree ones, and those three extra SAs, while still ending at a reasonable point on all attributes. (The attributes, were nothing to write home about, but were roughly around the existing 'meta')

But that was a tiny number of open builds. They could have also had doubled gear, like melon mentioned, on the SKILL positions, as the ones that were open, were all in the trenches ... so I'm not saying, that couldn't have ALSO been exploited. And yeah, I'd never heard of the doubled EQ thing before.


Hmm, it sounds almost like the bug allowed them to get extra training points, which then both jacked the stats and gave out extra BTs
 
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Originally posted by Carnal Knowledge


Hacking an ancient computer game is the lowest.XD


complete loser activity
 
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Here's one of their older dots that's been retired with a PV of 1,651.81: https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4853058

This should have been a dead giveaway
 
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That's probably from keeping him so long after plateau IMO
 
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Originally posted by RyanCane26

Only time I've seen it discussed and was purportedly fixed ... I don't think this is that as that did not require brute force afaik

https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5334731


Well it wasn’t fixed as one of my teammates just had it happen this season.

But yeah I’m more on the side of a training point glitch
 
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Originally posted by melon27
Well it wasn’t fixed as one of my teammates just had it happen this season.

But yeah I’m more on the side of a training point glitch


A few of us are in a top secret fantasy football league with said perpetrators, so as tom has said, many of us are butt buddies with the perps and are getting the inside scoop.

 
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He posted about 5 dots as FAs about 3 months ago and the builds were ordinary other than 10 Sticky Hands but like with Gambler was probably done to get people off the scent
Edited by RyanCane26 on Dec 16, 2025 17:24:00
 
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Originally posted by RyanCane26
He posted about 5 dots as FAs about 3 months ago and the builds were ordinary other than 10 Sticky Hands but like with Hambler was probably done to get people off the scent


I’d be more curious about the Alaho City players that were just about to hit max. They’d tell the real story and the next revision of the exploiting.
 
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Originally posted by The Hitman
WTF? +86 in equipment!


I said same thing, what the hell is this hack they were using???
Cheating bastards!!

Bort should charge their credit cards to the max as his own cheat!!!

Better yet take all their flex points and spread them around to all the non-cheaters!!!
Edited by regnac on Dec 16, 2025 17:47:05
 
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Originally posted by regnac
I said same thing, what the hell is this hack they were using???
Cheating bastards!!

Bort should charge their credit cards to the max as his own cheat!!!

Better yet take all their flex points and spread them around to all the non-cheaters!!!


lol, this is my build, nothing to do with any of the banned people. But please get me banned and charge my card for not reporting a bug.

Love to see Bort try to charge anyone’s card in that way. That’d be prison.
 
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Originally posted by coachingubigr
12 or so years ago a GLB admin (Catch22) had a multi (CerNet) and made all of CerNets dots have 100 in every attribute. Obviously these dots crushed


Lol, this isn't true.

He was just an admin who had a secret employee account which did OK. I'm pretty sure the dots weren't especially top tier.
 
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Originally posted by RyanCane26
He posted about 5 dots as FAs about 3 months ago and the builds were ordinary other than 10 Sticky Hands but like with Gambler was probably done to get people off the scent


https://imgur.com/a/vhLvTgW
 
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