Warrior General Games

Originally posted by splitter24
Why do you like his balls?

Originally posted by Robbnva
why don't you like his balls?

That was the exchange of the day, well played. 1 point each

So...

After L38 on a 5 major dot, the difference in ALGs major vs minor is a whopping 0.03.

My dots are L42, which means 37 more levels. Which adds up to a shade over 1 whole entire attribute point, starting from now. If I pound out the major I'm looking at like 6 or 7 more levels, so the difference would be less than a point--between finishing it ASAP vs later.

Is it better to pound away at majors still, or to round out the dot to make it more enjoyable now?

Originally posted by thermon
So...

After L38 on a 5 major dot, the difference in ALGs major vs minor is a whopping 0.03.

My dots are L42, which means 37 more levels. Which adds up to a shade over 1 whole entire attribute point, starting from now. If I pound out the major I'm looking at like 6 or 7 more levels, so the difference would be less than a point--between finishing it ASAP vs later.

Is it better to pound away at majors still, or to round out the dot to make it more enjoyable now?



For starters, I think you should have asked this question in your player's team forum or PM the team's OC.

I also think that you should still be pounding most of your majors (ie, speed, agility and catching) while rotating your other skills (carrying, jumping, stamina, confidence, strength). It is also important to leave enough skill points for the SA's you want/need to finish the build.

Lastly, a decision on if the build is 3 or 4 AEq will need to be decided upon (if it already has been) to plan for % gear and BT's.

I stress the first point in your case about your 5 major dot question.

Originally posted by thermon
So...

After L38 on a 5 major dot, the difference in ALGs major vs minor is a whopping 0.03.

My dots are L42, which means 37 more levels. Which adds up to a shade over 1 whole entire attribute point, starting from now. If I pound out the major I'm looking at like 6 or 7 more levels, so the difference would be less than a point--between finishing it ASAP vs later.

Is it better to pound away at majors still, or to round out the dot to make it more enjoyable now?



I know this is Wise's thread but, there's another aspect you might not be considering.

If you don't build the dots the world leaguers want you to build, you won't get invited.

If your goal is to grow a WL dot, you should retire, start over, and only color within the lines.

If you're not worried about WL, then absolutely do whatever you want to do. Do what you think will bring you the most enjoyment.

Dot performance has very little to do with the status quo. There are systems in place. If your dot doesn't fit the system, then no soup for you.

Originally posted by TJ Spikes
I know this is Wise's thread but, there's another aspect you might not be considering.

If you don't build the dots the world leaguers want you to build, you won't get invited.

If your goal is to grow a WL dot, you should retire, start over, and only color within the lines.

If you're not worried about WL, then absolutely do whatever you want to do. Do what you think will bring you the most enjoyment.

Dot performance has very little to do with the status quo. There are systems in place. If your dot doesn't fit the system, then no soup for you.




<standing ovation>

Originally posted by thermon
So...

After L38 on a 5 major dot, the difference in ALGs major vs minor is a whopping 0.03.

My dots are L42, which means 37 more levels. Which adds up to a shade over 1 whole entire attribute point, starting from now. If I pound out the major I'm looking at like 6 or 7 more levels, so the difference would be less than a point--between finishing it ASAP vs later.

Is it better to pound away at majors still, or to round out the dot to make it more enjoyable now?



The difference between a 5 major and a 3 minor attribute from lvl1-lvl79 = 18.12 vs 15.98. This is over the ENTIRE LIFE of the dot. Imho you should not be basing ANY decisions being worried about the 2.14 attribute difference. Much less than 0 cares should be had for the 1 attribute difference at lvl37+.

So on any dot, you want to focus on the attributes that are most important to you. With that said, on a WR for instance, spd+agi+catching (which all happen to be majors on a speed arch dot) are likely most important to you. Thus it's likely not a good idea to move off of your most important attribute so soon.

Imho, build for lvl79. I literally care zero about stuff before level 79. Game was balanced for max level dots. Passing in a shitmess in the minors anyhow, though its not amazing at L79, it's at least kind-of a thing. Your money and your dot of course, do what you want. However your WR won't see success in minors regardless of if you try to "even out your build to have more fun" resulting in less fun for your $80 WR imo.

Also, once you have your first 2-3 attributes very high, circle capping isn't necessarily bad if you are going for a lot of different attributes (ie hit the soft-cap with each attribute then move to the next). However it's all about the dot you want to build. There's a player building forum that you can invite yourself to if interested.

Originally posted by Sonic
For starters, I think you should have asked this question in your player's team forum or PM the team's OC.

I strongly disagree with this. Most owners and coordinators aren't magically great dot builders. If you are committed to a team for life which is ran by longtime GLB friends, feel free. Otherwise you are much better researching and doing your own thing. PM people who make great dots at your position if anything. Don't follow what random owners and inept coordinators will tell you to do...

Originally posted by thermon
So...

After L38 on a 5 major dot, the difference in ALGs major vs minor is a whopping 0.03.

My dots are L42, which means 37 more levels. Which adds up to a shade over 1 whole entire attribute point, starting from now. If I pound out the major I'm looking at like 6 or 7 more levels, so the difference would be less than a point--between finishing it ASAP vs later.

Is it better to pound away at majors still, or to round out the dot to make it more enjoyable now?



the simple answer is at that point it doesn't really matter what you train (major vs minor) cause the ALG difference is minimal

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
I strongly disagree with this. Most owners and coordinators aren't magically great dot builders. If you are committed to a team for life which is ran by longtime GLB friends, feel free. Otherwise you are much better researching and doing your own thing. PM people who make great dots at your position if anything. Don't follow what random owners and inept coordinators will tell you to do...

Checks the team thermon is a part of. Damn, gurupies farm team. Yep better ask here

Originally posted by TJ Spikes
I know this is Wise's thread but, there's another aspect you might not be considering.

If you don't build the dots the world leaguers want you to build, you won't get invited.

If your goal is to grow a WL dot, you should retire, start over, and only color within the lines.

If you're not worried about WL, then absolutely do whatever you want to do. Do what you think will bring you the most enjoyment.

Dot performance has very little to do with the status quo. There are systems in place. If your dot doesn't fit the system, then no soup for you.




Other perspectives are very welcome here.

However imo this post is a bit too "anti-establistment". Fact is, if you make any dot that does great, you will get WL opportunities as long as they are build efficiently. Yes there are networks, who have established great builders that build most of their dots. But even those teams will look outside of the network for some dots, or if a great dot is recognized.

However doing contrarian shit that doesn't work then saying "poor me, the WL discriminates" is just a weak cop-out.

Make a dot. Do dominant shit against even competition in natty pro. I'll find you a WL job, 100% guaranteed.

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And don't get me wrong. I'm the #1 supporter that a lot of the "META" build practices aren't based on anything, and are almost certainly not optimal. Build dots off of smart or fun assumptions. Try to beat the game. Build efficient dots. Have fun with your dots. 10,000%

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As a very easy example, all WR in GLB should easily certainly be hitting 48 str and blk. So much of the top level of the game is run heavy, and a base level of str/blk would make them good against the run compared to a lot of CBs. Plus it would help dot efficiency overall, and the str will do something on your catch (anti-pd) score. However the "META" says to never build str/blk on a non-blocking WR, which is pretty retarded. Because you don't need 160 spd instead of 156 spd in order to catch 11 of your 20 targets in WL....

Originally posted by 7steeladonis
the simple answer is at that point it doesn't really matter what you train (major vs minor) cause the ALG difference is minimal

Of course I know you don't mean hard-pumping specific attributes doesn't make a difference (because it certainly does), but just clarifying for any viewers. You are correct that the major vs minor designation is negligible on 5-major dots.

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
I strongly disagree with this. Most owners and coordinators aren't magically great dot builders. If you are committed to a team for life which is ran by longtime GLB friends, feel free. Otherwise you are much better researching and doing your own thing. PM people who make great dots at your position if anything. Don't follow what random owners and inept coordinators will tell you to do...

Picked the wrong team to say that about

I knew what team thermon is on when I wrote what I said.

Originally posted by Sonic
Picked the wrong team to say that about

I knew what team thermon is on when I wrote what I said.

Ihateref agenda aside, I clearly didn't click on the team of his specific dot. Moreso was talking generally. So we can both be right here.

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Ihateref agenda aside, I clearly didn't click on the team of his specific dot. Moreso was talking generally. So we can both be right here.



I'm actually curious about how his WR will be finished.