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aaasahi
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Originally posted by Novus
There's at least 4...

Rush Hour
Legacy's Runnin With The Real McCoys
Palm Bay Palookas
Palm Bay Paladins


Ya, I want to know any other beside these four?
 
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Originally posted by aaasahi
Ya, I want to know any other beside these four?


there is another waiting in the wings

http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/team.pl?team_id=7028
 
Sellars
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Originally posted by aaasahi
Ya, I want to know any other beside these four?


http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1592
 
Donk3yMan
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Originally posted by aaasahi
Ya, I want to know any other beside these four?


http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/team.pl?team_id=222
http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/team.pl?team_id=3032
 
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Originally posted by ManOgwaR
see this is the thing that you guys are ignorant to ...peewee gets to build new dots every season, we don't have to wait until 12months down the track to see the fruits of our builds ...usually they are the exact same builds every season!!! ...so if the builds haven't changed and the AIs haven't changed ...I have seen distinctive changes in the sim over the past 5 seasons ...I have built a team of dots every season for the past 5seasons ...so what is your argument again?!?


Your opponent's builds have changed? You're not playing horshoes, as the saying goes. You are playing other people who are also changing up their builds and tactics trying to improve. You would have to build 2 teams with the exact same player builds and tactics from season to season and scrimmage them about 20 times every season then analyze the data and determine whether the differences in stats were actually statistically significant to be able to draw the conclusion that the sim is changing. I am not being disrespectful to peewee but my guess is you have built the same players with the same AI but faced many different opponents and not done any serious data gathering and analysis on the stats, but just taken your general impressions under the assumption that everyone else has remained as static in their builds and AIs as you have.

In general people get better at the game every season. Every new season people have a better understanding of what works and so if your tactics and builds stay static then you should probably expect to see your players play gradually worse and worse as time progresses. And while I never cared to play in peewee gold due to the cost, I have about a 90% winning percentage in peewee silver and it was not for lack of build quality - I just never cared to learn how to coordinate since it doesn't really translate to any other level of GLB.
Edited by tpaterniti on Apr 2, 2014 22:59:42
Edited by tpaterniti on Apr 2, 2014 22:59:07
 
bhall43
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20 scrims is putting it lightly. That's the first 16 or so levels of a dots existence thus you aren't getting anything near consistent in terms of a player. That's makes for all sorts of goofy findings. Even up around the top levels you get that sort of shit.
 
ManOgwaR
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Originally posted by tpaterniti
Your opponent's builds have changed? You're not playing horshoes, as the saying goes. You are playing other people who are also changing up their builds and tactics trying to improve. You would have to build 2 teams with the exact same player builds and tactics from season to season and scrimmage them about 20 times every season then analyze the data and determine whether the differences in stats were actually statistically significant to be able to draw the conclusion that the sim is changing. I am not being disrespectful to peewee but my guess is you have built the same players with the same AI but faced many different opponents and not done any serious data gathering and analysis on the stats, but just taken your general impressions under the assumption that everyone else has remained as static in their builds and AIs as you have.

In general people get better at the game every season. Every new season people have a better understanding of what works and so if your tactics and builds stay static then you should probably expect to see your players play gradually worse and worse as time progresses. And while I never cared to play in peewee gold due to the cost, I have about a 90% winning percentage in peewee silver and it was not for lack of build quality - I just never cared to learn how to coordinate since it doesn't really translate to any other level of GLB.


...so you are defending those that say the sim hasn't changed in approximately 5 seasons ya?!? ...just because it wasn't announced maybe?!? ...seems like as mod in this 'discussion', you are damned if you do and damned if you don't defend either side ...I don't need to compare with teams of the exact same builds of previous seasons coz am going by the tendencies that the dots show from the sim ...coverage progression characteristics and zone coverage tendencies do not change depending on the other team, unless we are referring to missed tackles or taking a different 'line of interception'(against a faster dot), of which am not ...there are no SAs that would interfere with these types of findings at peewee level, especially early on to mid-season(which is where the difference is most noticeable) ...data gathering isn't required, I see the difference by the dots behaviors in zone coverage and the check-down progressions of man-coverage ...outside factors other than the sim would have no bearing on that!

...btw stats and rankings in silver isn't worthy of substantiating anything other than a lack of competition tbh
Edited by ManOgwaR on Apr 3, 2014 05:48:11
Edited by ManOgwaR on Apr 3, 2014 05:27:41
 
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Moretti
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Originally posted by ManOgwaR
...so you are defending those that say the sim hasn't changed in approximately 5 seasons ya?!? ...just because it wasn't announced maybe?!? ...seems like as mod in this 'discussion', you are damned if you do and damned if you don't defend either side ...I don't need to compare with teams of the exact same builds of previous seasons coz am going by the tendencies that the dots show from the sim ...coverage progression characteristics and zone coverage tendencies do not change depending on the other team, unless we are referring to missed tackles or taking a different 'line of interception'(against a faster dot), of which am not ...there are no SAs that would interfere with these types of findings at peewee level, especially early on to mid-season(which is where the difference is most noticeable) ...data gathering isn't required, I see the difference by the dots behaviors in zone coverage and the check-down progressions of man-coverage ...outside factors other than the sim would have no bearing on that!

...btw stats and rankings in silver isn't worthy of substantiating anything other than a lack of competition tbh


the greater conspiracy theory behind this is that bort is deleting all replays of past seasons so that you can no longer compare....
 
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Originally posted by aaasahi

Currently I only know 3 full running team
Palm Bay and McCoy.
Are there any other?


There are a boat load who run close to 90% of the time.
 
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Originally posted by Bane
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Interceptions are way way up. That is a fact not a delusion. It seems deflections are way up as well but I can't prove it. I watch thousands if replays and there seems to be a different feel when it comes to coverage. Of course anyone who doesn't watch replays in peewee are all self proclaimed peewee replay experts.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43


Trying to have an adult discussion here.
 
_OSIRIS_
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You all are saying interceptions are not up then? Numbers do not lie. That was a ninja change I believe. Is it that outrageous to think maybe there were others that are not as obvious?
 
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Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
You all are saying interceptions are not up then? Numbers do not lie. That was a ninja change I believe. Is it that outrageous to think maybe there were others that are not as obvious?


Interception numbers ARE up. That is build related. That isn't a "ninja change" at all.

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
Trying to have an adult discussion here.


It is tough to have an adult discussion when you can't see such obvious things such as how interceptions numbers rising came about.
 
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