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Stixx
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Originally posted by Dub J
The "lolpeewee crap" is the same as the "lolcasual crap". Dude(s) from one of those leagues comes into the mains talking a bunch of shit and then when people start talking shit back to them people from the niche leagues get all offended. I get so tired of people in PW and Casual trying to revise history to try and paint a picture as if they've been persecuted. You guys hang out in your own little worlds (PW/Casual) and disassociate with the userbase at large because you can't handle it when someone gives you a dose of your own medicine.



I don't really understand what you mean by this. A Pee Wee agent posting a suggestion to better the game at lower levels shouldn't just be tossed out just because we're lolpeewee agents, but according to a lot of the upper level agents the suggestions should be tossed out just because they mean nothing to them and it's lolpeewee or lolcasual and they want Bort to just work on the part of the game they enjoy. The same goes for casual and any other niche league type. What he said doesn't really have anything to do with Casual agents or PW agents talking shit in GLB main.
Edited by Honey Badger on Jan 8, 2014 00:20:23
Edited by Honey Badger on Jan 8, 2014 00:19:01
 
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Actually, it has everything to do with it. PW and casual only owners/agents typically aren't very internet savvy. I'm referring to the majority that just hung out in PW and Casual forums and when they posted in Suggestions they couldn't recognize a troll when one set their sights on them. You should really blame the first person that posted a peewee suggestion and then became enraged at the random troll that posted "lolpeewee". Had the op never flipped his shit over the short troll post the whole "lolpeewee" thing would have never perpetuated.

Internet rule #1. If you go apeshit over one guy slapping up a troll post many others will join in. In a short time it will elevate to meme status.



 
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More like a peewee agent makes a suggestion regarding something be done at the lower levels for lets say passing. Pro league agent says well passing hasn't even been fixed at the end game level. Peewee agent comes back by calling pro agent elitist or good old boy. Pro agent facepalms.
 
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Originally posted by Dub J
The "lolpeewee crap" is the same as the "lolcasual crap". Dude(s) from one of those leagues comes into the mains talking a bunch of shit and then when people start talking shit back to them people from the niche leagues get all offended. I get so tired of people in PW and Casual trying to revise history to try and paint a picture as if they've been persecuted. You guys hang out in your own little worlds (PW/Casual) and disassociate with the userbase at large because you can't handle it when someone gives you a dose of your own medicine.


I play regular leagues. I have nothing against them because I'm generally in one of them. I started in casual. That wasn't for me at all. What exactly do you even do other than troll in the forums? Almost every season you buy a team and quit on them I guess it is just for attention.
 
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Originally posted by Dub J
Actually, it has everything to do with it. PW and casual only owners/agents typically aren't very internet savvy. I'm referring to the majority that just hung out in PW and Casual forums and when they posted in Suggestions they couldn't recognize a troll when one set their sights on them. You should really blame the first person that posted a peewee suggestion and then became enraged at the random troll that posted "lolpeewee". Had the op never flipped his shit over the short troll post the whole "lolpeewee" thing would have never perpetuated.

Internet rule #1. If you go apeshit over one guy slapping up a troll post many others will join in. In a short time it will elevate to meme status.





Well there are a lot of older guys in Pee Wee so I wouldn't put it past some people not recognizing a troll, but suggestions shouldn't be the place for that.
 
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Yeah, I think the biggest rub was people at the higher levels had seen an improvement in passing and they didn't want Bort to fuck around with it to improve the lowest level passing.

 
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Originally posted by Honey Badger
Well there are a lot of older guys in Pee Wee so I wouldn't put it past some people not recognizing a troll, but suggestions shouldn't be the place for that.


meh

I was involved with PW from the beginning but got to where I couldn't stand it because the fanatical die-hards took over. Got to the point peewee wasn't fun any longer. I couldn't post in PW Gold forum without getting reported.
 
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Originally posted by _OSIRIS_

I play regular leagues. I have nothing against them because I'm generally in one of them. I started in casual. That wasn't for me at all. What exactly do you even do other than troll in the forums? Almost every season you buy a team and quit on them I guess it is just for attention.


Says the guy that's notorious for letting his teams sit and rot.

 
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Originally posted by bhall43
More like a peewee agent makes a suggestion regarding something be done at the lower levels for lets say passing. Pro league agent says well passing hasn't even been fixed at the end game level. Peewee agent comes back by calling pro agent elitist or good old boy. Pro agent facepalms.


I think it is also due in part to a confusion from both sides. Pee Wee agents don't really know how the sim is at level 79 and many upper level pro and WL agents don't pay enough attention at low levels to know how the sim acts down there for us.
 
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I had dots at both extremes back then and I knew pretty well how things were at PW and Pro.

 
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Originally posted by Dub J
I had dots at both extremes back then and I knew pretty well how things were at PW and Pro.



Yea I'm sure there are a few that do/did both but for the most part the guys that trolled PW agents in suggestions never actually had a dot in Pee Wee. Then like you said above all the Pro and WL agents were always worried that a low level buff or nerf would screw up the upper levels so they never backed a low level suggestion.
Edited by Honey Badger on Jan 8, 2014 00:39:31
 
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Originally posted by Dub J
Yeah, I think the biggest rub was people at the higher levels had seen an improvement in passing and they didn't want Bort to fuck around with it to improve the lowest level passing.



The first cries about passing at the lower levels was a serious build problem. People made speedsters and felt they had the right to catch everything. My team was build of possession guys and did great all the way through minors up until about the point in which bort screwed with upper level passing and gave a bunch of bonuses to deflections and stuff. At that point it was tough to pass at any level of the game that wasn't end level and I even showed that through my team and another set of builds I had in rookie/prep to catch.
 
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I trolled the angry PW guys because...well, to be honest, they're pretty stupid. My favorite was when I owned 3 PW teams and had over 150 PW dots and was going on in a thread about how only losers played PW. Took them about 5 pages to figure it out.

 
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Originally posted by bhall43
More like a peewee agent makes a suggestion regarding something be done at the lower levels for lets say passing. Pro league agent says well passing hasn't even been fixed at the end game level. Peewee agent comes back by calling pro agent elitist or good old boy. Pro agent facepalms.


I would never suggest something doesn't get fixed at any level. If they would open the offense up a bit at the mid levels I would have more interest in regular play. I suffered through 0-0 games in the minors season 28. Although pro level should be the focus it shouldn't suck ass on the way up. Some peewee squads boost and rent EQ season after season and deserve to at least be relevant in the eyes of admin.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
The first cries about passing at the lower levels was a serious build problem. People made speedsters and felt they had the right to catch everything. My team was build of possession guys and did great all the way through minors up until about the point in which bort screwed with upper level passing and gave a bunch of bonuses to deflections and stuff. At that point it was tough to pass at any level of the game that wasn't end level and I even showed that through my team and another set of builds I had in rookie/prep to catch.


I'm referring to when Bort had made a ninja change and it was a nudge in the right direction. This happened well before the low level boost but during a time when PW guys were pushing hard to get passing for lower levels improved.

 
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