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Originally posted by Jay89
um...learn to build or learn 2 DC. I personally seen 3 different blitz lb'ers have pretty good success, and hit double digit sakcs. SO not sure wtf every1 is complaining about.

Oh yea, you want us to go back to the days where lb'ers could have 40 sacks a season? NGTH

Try DCing or building a Blitz LBer before you pop off like you know something.

I suggest that the Blitzing LB get a different SA's and possibly VA's Specific to the blitzer arch type due to the limitations on Blitzing LBer Placement, Blitz LBers are essentially PRDEs, so we should see Blitz LBers with stats in line with what PRDEs get. Various Defensive formations should produce different results.

15 sacks from a Blitz LBer from a 4 DL front would be a great season statistically but when teams line up in the 3-4 and blitz the OLB; the OLB should be able to gather stats similar to a PRDE. We dont see that, at least not on a regular basis as you would with a PRDE.

Tell'im Bama

NGTH ... STOP building useless dots, they will not fix them for you.
Why would you want to have a blitzing linebacker to blitz and get sacks for??? smh, I tell ya

btw, lock er up... too much attention

Originally posted by dahman32
NGTH ... STOP building useless dots, they will not fix them for you.
Why would you want to have a blitzing linebacker to blitz and get sacks for??? smh, I tell ya

btw, lock er up... too much attention



Sorry, but what is up with you? Posting this everywhere.

just to play devils advocate with regards to the WL dots


#1 in sacks = Kewl Cat (DE) with 35 sacks
#4 in sacks = Newyark Sackexchange (DE) with 28 sacks

#13 in sacks = #51 Aaron Curry with 17 sacks
#20 in sacks = Out Law with 15 sacks


seems like an obvious skew toward DEs being better... HOWEVER let's compare play numbers to get an estimated "attempts to get a sack" stat... there is no way to really get this super accurate, so I will just say that we ignore pass vs run and take total plays. In fact, this way will probably benefit the DE, who is much less likely to be put into coverage

Kewl Cat had 763 plays and 35 sacks = 21.8
Newyark had 898 plays and 28 sacks = 32.07

Aaron Curry had 431 plays and 17 sacks = 25.35
Out Law had 347 plays with 15 sacks = 23.13


now when you put that out there, doesn't seem so bad. Rushing LBers get way less attempts, and thus get way less sacks. I think that sounds about right to me. Not to say I'm against opening up the DPC a little more, just saying it's not all what it seems

Originally posted by B1G
Sorry, but what is up with you? Posting this everywhere.

bad poster's do this

Originally posted by Chysil
just to play devils advocate with regards to the WL dots


#1 in sacks = Kewl Cat (DE) with 35 sacks
#4 in sacks = Newyark Sackexchange (DE) with 28 sacks

#13 in sacks = #51 Aaron Curry with 17 sacks
#20 in sacks = Out Law with 15 sacks


seems like an obvious skew toward DEs being better... HOWEVER let's compare play numbers to get an estimated "attempts to get a sack" stat... there is no way to really get this super accurate, so I will just say that we ignore pass vs run and take total plays. In fact, this way will probably benefit the DE, who is much less likely to be put into coverage

Kewl Cat had 763 plays and 35 sacks = 21.8
Newyark had 898 plays and 28 sacks = 32.07

Aaron Curry had 431 plays and 17 sacks = 25.35
Out Law had 347 plays with 15 sacks = 23.13


now when you put that out there, doesn't seem so bad. Rushing LBers get way less attempts, and thus get way less sacks. I think that sounds about right to me. Not to say I'm against opening up the DPC a little more, just saying it's not all what it seems

Now THIS is quality thought and work.

Originally posted by Chysil
just to play devils advocate with regards to the WL dots


#1 in sacks = Kewl Cat (DE) with 35 sacks
#4 in sacks = Newyark Sackexchange (DE) with 28 sacks

#13 in sacks = #51 Aaron Curry with 17 sacks
#20 in sacks = Out Law with 15 sacks


seems like an obvious skew toward DEs being better... HOWEVER let's compare play numbers to get an estimated "attempts to get a sack" stat... there is no way to really get this super accurate, so I will just say that we ignore pass vs run and take total plays. In fact, this way will probably benefit the DE, who is much less likely to be put into coverage

Kewl Cat had 763 plays and 35 sacks = 21.8
Newyark had 898 plays and 28 sacks = 32.07

Aaron Curry had 431 plays and 17 sacks = 25.35
Out Law had 347 plays with 15 sacks = 23.13


now when you put that out there, doesn't seem so bad. Rushing LBers get way less attempts, and thus get way less sacks. I think that sounds about right to me. Not to say I'm against opening up the DPC a little more, just saying it's not all what it seems

2. you dont DC so see point 1

Originally posted by ProfessionalKop

2. you dont DC so see point 1

lol @ You. Chysil came in here with legitimate numbers, and you dont even want to take them into account? Thats because you know you fucking suck and you just need to stop whining.

Originally posted by Jay89
lol @ You. Chysil came in here with legitimate numbers, and you dont even want to take them into account? Thats because you know you fucking suck and you just need to stop whining.

considering some teams blitz a LB every down, they get equal attempts. you still have never beaten me, pretty pathetic calling someone who you cant beat bad at GLB.

Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
considering some teams blitz a LB every down, they get equal attempts. you still have never beaten me, pretty pathetic calling someone who you cant beat bad at GLB.

But do you see me in the suggestions forum talking about "I want to do this, but i cant find a way to do it. Must be GLB's Fault. Waaaaaaaaah, Waaaaaaah!" Boo fuckin hoo dude. Get over yourself

Originally posted by Chysil
just to play devils advocate with regards to the WL dots


#1 in sacks = Kewl Cat (DE) with 35 sacks
#4 in sacks = Newyark Sackexchange (DE) with 28 sacks

#13 in sacks = #51 Aaron Curry with 17 sacks
#20 in sacks = Out Law with 15 sacks


seems like an obvious skew toward DEs being better... HOWEVER let's compare play numbers to get an estimated "attempts to get a sack" stat... there is no way to really get this super accurate, so I will just say that we ignore pass vs run and take total plays. In fact, this way will probably benefit the DE, who is much less likely to be put into coverage

Kewl Cat had 763 plays and 35 sacks = 21.8
Newyark had 898 plays and 28 sacks = 32.07

Aaron Curry had 431 plays and 17 sacks = 25.35
Out Law had 347 plays with 15 sacks = 23.13


now when you put that out there, doesn't seem so bad. Rushing LBers get way less attempts, and thus get way less sacks. I think that sounds about right to me. Not to say I'm against opening up the DPC a little more, just saying it's not all what it seems

Nice work Chysil though i believe the numbers are skewed a bit. there are a lot of variables so its hard for us to accurately show production / snap. from my experience I can say that ive not gotten the production from Blitz LBers that i should be getting. ( just talking about edge blitzes. btw)

Originally posted by bamastrac
Nice work Chysil though i believe the numbers are skewed a bit. there are a lot of variables so its hard for us to accurately show production / snap. from my experience I can say that ive not gotten the production from Blitz LBers that i should be getting. ( just talking about edge blitzes. btw)

What you "Should" be getting is all a matter of perspective. If think my WR "should" be getting 2k yards a season, do i make a suggestion thread and tell bort to fix it?

I think that in order to get a better idea of the production value of the Blitz LBers it should be tested on the test server. I would think the test should include:

* All passing offense

* Edge Blitzing from the 3 DL Formations

* Edge Blitzing from the 4 DL Formations

* Blitzes from the LOLB and ROLB position should also be considered.