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Another Yello thread derailed towards the path of self-destruction..

To bring it back on topic... -1as over-complicating team finances will not bring new agents to the game. In fact, it would probably be the opposite. The goal of GLB should be to get away from the spreadsheet mentality.

Originally posted by yello1

The NFL knows parity sells, Bort should as well.

You seem to have missed the only relevant factor here.

Forced parity in a league where entrance is stirctly controlled is good.

For your comparison to hold any relevance, the NFL would have to be subject to parity with all the other American football leagues that exsist too.

I await your suggestion that the CFL, Arena League and the British American Football Association be allowed entry to the Draft.

After that the suggestion got worse.

-1

Originally posted by merenoise
You have no idea what I believe because I don't feel obligated to share it with you since belief is personal.

You on the other hand feel obligated to make me believe as you do by constantly infecting things you say with references to your zombie overlord. You even manage to force me to consider it each time one of the teams I am associated kicks the snot out of one of your poorly managed teams by naming them after your religious beliefs.

Maybe check out that book you are so into and read what your zombie preached about proselytizing:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+6&version=NIV

Do you grok that?

When you spout the dogma and prayers of the Illogical Church of the UnGodders, you leave people with little choice but to assume you are one of its doesn't-quite-grok-science zealots.

As for the quote, too many contradictory statements in the bible to go nutty over one passage IMO. But as noted all I am doing is thanking God, not proselytizing. But if you attack faith, well I am here to remind you how faith is all ANYONE has, be it in the UnGod or one of the more traditional deities and that makes you and your opinions not one iota more worthy than anyone elses.

Originally posted by Antonine
Main point of my question was which population he was talking about.

There is a world beyond the U.S.A., amazingly enough. Anyway, please return to dissing the OP.

As you noted, its the same globally. Regional variations of course. China etc. But people are people, and most of them are people of faith of one variety or another.

However if the game was Dotball Cricket of Pakistan, yeah my teams probably wouldnt be popular there.

Originally posted by Myd
Another Yello thread derailed towards the path of self-destruction..

To bring it back on topic... -1as over-complicating team finances will not bring new agents to the game. In fact, it would probably be the opposite. The goal of GLB should be to get away from the spreadsheet mentality.


You'll love my next suggestion then

Originally posted by yello1
Illogical Church

If you had just posted that you would have nailed it. Pardon the Jesus pun.

People have every right to faith. They should just choose to keep that faith to themselves and those that are like-minded. Boring the rest of humanity with speculation about which deity is the right deity takes time away from answering questions about the lovely rock we are spinning on.

Originally posted by yello1
You'll love my next suggestion then

Consider this -1 to be a preemptive strike then.

Originally posted by merenoise
If you had just posted that you would have nailed it. Pardon the Jesus pun.

People have every right to faith. They should just choose to keep that faith to themselves and those that are like-minded. Boring the rest of humanity with speculation about which deity is the right deity takes time away from answering questions about the lovely rock we are spinning on.

I have no disagreement with that, logic and faith have totally different roles, logic can never tell you what lays beyond, and faith can't tell you the nature of the Big Bang (though IMO genesis goes into planetary formation a tad but thats another topic). Faith in Ungod or A God is all about believing what is outside the fish bowl. Logic is about how to navigate the water inside. Two separate realms.

And as I said I am not into the holy roller door knocking proselytizing. But wearing a cross or putting one on your team logo is hardly boring anyone with anything and definitely is not door knocking.

Spouting off about spaghetti monsters on the other hand is another matter entirely. Thats attacking someone elses faith and its ridiculous because its baseless. "Spaghetti Monster" and the Self Azz Springing Universe are equally logical and illogical. To think otherwise is to fail at logic.

Originally posted by Mike Rogers
You seem to have missed the only relevant factor here.

Forced parity in a league where entrance is stirctly controlled is good.

For your comparison to hold any relevance, the NFL would have to be subject to parity with all the other American football leagues that exsist too.

I await your suggestion that the CFL, Arena League and the British American Football Association be allowed entry to the Draft.

After that the suggestion got worse.

-1

Not sure I follow your point, but the analogy would be NFL World League, CFL National Pro, etc.

Each league would have its own salary cap as they do now....

Originally posted by yello1
Lost track of how many sent inspirational word =| 55x9 dots signed.

Face it, a trivial two percent of the population are atheist while the vast majority are faithful people and the overwhelming majority of them are christian. A cross is not going to send people scurrying.

And thats all it is, the logo, some player names and avatars, and the team note. We don't have bible study at team meetings or anything. Its not the Jehovahs Witnesses Dot Ball club lol.





So if what you are saying is true, what is the point of your original suggestion? Either you can't get enough dots to fill your teams, or the current dots on your teams aren't built well enough to compete. Otherwise why even bring up something like this?

Originally posted by yello1

Not sure I follow your point, but the analogy would be NFL World League, CFL National Pro, etc.

Each league would have its own salary cap as they do now....

You want to enforce controls to create Parity.
You use the NFL as an example of Parity working.

However the NFL does not actually help endorse the type of Parity you're talking about here, in a way that translates to GLBs league structure.

The NFL is one single league, GLB is not, so your comparison ends here.

Despite the Parity controls in place on individual teams, the NFL still has a very effective monopoly on the highest calibre atheletes, the player pool for any league outside of the NFL is certainly at a massive disadvantage compared to the finanaces available in the NFL.

As such many players prefer to be on NFL scout squads than join any other league format that exsists.

It is this monopoly on the talent pool that allows the NFL to implement their Parity controls as they do.

In GLB, enforced Parity caps like you suggest would not have the same effect as they do in the NFL.

If you actually thought about it, you would realise that the Parity caps your suggesting, would just increase the number of Network teams at the top levels, and stagnate team movement.

It has been said before and it will be said again

You cannot legislate parity or competitiveness or whatever you want to call it

The best Bort can do is group the teams in leagues which make them as even as possible and then roll the dice from there

All he has to do is re-sort teams before rollover into the most balanced leagues he can create. Yes, some will game the system by signing most of their teams afterwards - maybe increase the chemistry hit after rollover to 5 points to discourage that.

The solution is not that difficult - there is a reason why WL, Casual Pro and the elite leagues are solidly competitive while National and Regional Pro leagues are terrible. We all know this but Bort refuses to do anything so simple to address it. If he won't do that, he surely will never try to create parity by alienating a large portion of his user base.

Originally posted by reddogrw


The best Bort can do is group the teams in leagues which make them as even as possible and then roll the dice from there

All he has to do is re-sort teams before rollover into the most balanced leagues he can create. Yes, some will game the system by signing most of their teams afterwards - maybe increase the chemistry hit after rollover to 5 points to discourage that.
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once teams are sorted into like leagues, put a EL cap on it so having players not sign until you get put into a lower league wouldnt work, because they'd most likely be over the EL and could only sign with a EL appropriate league. resorting would solve so many issues with glb.

Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
Originally posted by reddogrw



The best Bort can do is group the teams in leagues which make them as even as possible and then roll the dice from there

All he has to do is re-sort teams before rollover into the most balanced leagues he can create. Yes, some will game the system by signing most of their teams afterwards - maybe increase the chemistry hit after rollover to 5 points to discourage that.
.

once teams are sorted into like leagues, put a EL cap on it so having players not sign until you get put into a lower league wouldnt work, because they'd most likely be over the EL and could only sign with a EL appropriate league. resorting would solve so many issues with glb.

I agree -I wasn't asking to cap anything - the 5 point thing I was referring to was a higher chem hit to the current 3 points after rollover

Originally posted by reddogrw
I agree -I wasn't asking to cap anything - the 5 point thing I was referring to was a higher chem hit to the current 3 points after rollover

chem hits arent that much of a penalty if you have a decent sized player advantage over the rest of the league. even with existing chem hits, a team would hit rock bottom, and by the playoffs would have chem mostly rebuilt, so additional chem hits really wouldnt have much effect. i dont even know why its necessary to put teams in specific leagues prior to creating schedules. all it does is to encourage gaming the system.