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I agree with Rizyx. I think the key is to making sure there is no cpu teams in gold/silver league, especially in gold league. Quite frankly, any change would be nice as long as the leagues are reduced. Hopefully you guys can come up with an agreement.

What about this? Would require a new league (Bronze)
http://www.nflfever2.com/Gold/Pee%20Wee%20Ladder%203.gif

Well I have been pumping flex into pee wee since season 7......I like the proposed restructure. I like the twist by Rizyx as well.

I wouldnt worry about promoting "garbage teams" .......that is what we have now......We have more league than we do teams.

Silver and copper are LOADED!!!! with CPU. Copper league 5 alone has 26 cpu teams.. Your "garbage teams" emerge from having played 14 cpu teams in a regular season.....that is a function of too many leagues.

LE's plan would work if we had more teams. Maybe later that would work if we had more human teams.

This is simple to rectify......

Move all human teams to silver at the end of season 25.
Close team sales in copper until all silver teams are purchased
If that happens, only open sales in copper 1 until it fills then copper 2, etc.
Promote the teams that play in the silver league championships to gold (12 teams). Demote the bottom 12 in gold to silver.
Should human teams occupy copper, move them up to fill silver by rank.( I dont see this happening. Not enough demand)

With this being said, we wouldnt have to concern ourselves with "garbage teams" getting promoted. And we could pacify whomever insists on keeping copper league. They could go watch the cpu's battle it out for the league championship in copper 1 like the D leagues. New pee wee owners wouldnt have 14 bye weeks on their schedule like they do now in copper.

In other words, do the same for pee wee as you do for pro leagues in a nutshell. We dont have an abundance of cpu in pro leagues. Why is that? League size fits the demand.

This would be really simple and give 4 ranks
http://www.nflfever2.com/Gold/Pee%20Wee%20Ladder%203.gif

Gold all non playoff teams demote- 16 new teams

Silver- 4 leagues, 16 teams promote, all conference and championship participants promote. Bottom 4 in each league (16 teams) demote to copper

Copper - 4 leagues ,16 teams promote, all conference and championship participants promote. Bottom 4 in each league (16 teams) demote to Bronze

Bronze - - 4 leagues - beginners league, 16 teams promote, all conference and championship participants promote

Originally posted by Rizyx
The Set Up
Gold League - 32 Teams
Silver League - 4 Leagues of 32 teams
Copper Leagues - 16 Leagues of 32 Teams

Gold League
1 League of 32 teams - (MUST MAKE SURE NO CPU)
16 teams form Silver will get promoted to Gold League
Whoa!!! 16 teams, all NON playoff teams drop to the 4 Silver Leagues

Silver Leagues
4 Leagues of 32 teams
All Conference Championship teams and Championship participants advance to Gold League.
4 teams with the worst records in each of the 4 leagues DROP to Copper!
16 teams demote to Copper
16 teams from Copper promote here to Silver

Copper Leagues
16 leagues of 32 teams
16 teams with the best records get promoted to silver (human owned comes first)
16 Teams advance to Silver
16 teams from Silver demote to Copper



+1 Riz.

These are some good ideas, but seriously, the concept for Bort shouldn't be that complicated. Does he like paying customers playing games vs CPUs or actual humans ? Isn't the whole point of GLB and online RPGs is to participate vs other humans ?

Originally posted by LordEvil
This would be really simple and give 4 ranks
http://www.nflfever2.com/Gold/Pee%20Wee%20Ladder%203.gif

Gold all non playoff teams demote- 16 new teams

Silver- 4 leagues, 16 teams promote, all conference and championship participants promote. Bottom 4 in each league (16 teams) demote to copper

Copper - 4 leagues ,16 teams promote, all conference and championship participants promote. Bottom 4 in each league (16 teams) demote to Bronze

Bronze - - 4 leagues - beginners league, 16 teams promote, all conference and championship participants promote

i agree this would be good with more human teams but i dont think this would work tbh any better than what we have now, copper now is basically waht bronze and copper would be, so there isnt any need for a bronze league imo

Yes to reducing the number of teams (leagues). Too many CPU's.

And Yes to no CPU's in GOLD.

Yes to demoting all non play-off teams in Gold. This is probably the most important. There are too many teams that put minimal effort knowing they can just get by and survive. To me this clogs up Gold and takes away from the Silver Teams that "want" to try to win. I would rather beat up on teams that are trying and just can't get it done (because generally they will eventually get it). Then to beat up on teams that are not really trying.....

Having said all that yes something needs to be done to increase the competition and interest in Pee Wee. It can be a great product for the customers interested in it.

Originally posted by Rizyx
The Set Up
Gold League - 32 Teams
Silver League - 4 Leagues of 32 teams
Copper Leagues - 16 Leagues of 32 Teams

Gold League
1 League of 32 teams - (MUST MAKE SURE NO CPU)
16 teams form Silver will get promoted to Gold League
Whoa!!! 16 teams, all NON playoff teams drop to the 4 Silver Leagues

Silver Leagues
4 Leagues of 32 teams
All Conference Championship teams and Championship participants advance to Gold League.
4 teams with the worst records in each of the 4 leagues DROP to Copper!
16 teams demote to Copper
16 teams from Copper promote here to Silver

Copper Leagues
16 leagues of 32 teams
16 teams with the best records get promoted to silver (human owned comes first)
16 Teams advance to Silver
16 teams from Silver demote to Copper



this suggestions by LE and me needs to be mixed with what Lynyrd B said and we would have the perfect solution

no need for bronze but I like the idea of the rest with less silver leagues

+1
To LE's idea....dropping non playoff teams and restructuring the silver has to happen.....
Season 7 peewee owner

http://www.nflfever2.com/Gold/Pee%20Wee%20Ladder%203.gif

i think we are getting caught up with to many ideas, make it simple

LE's original post with my addition i think is pretty much spot (biased i know )

The Set Up
Gold League - 32 Teams
Silver League - 4 Leagues of 32 teams
Copper Leagues - 16 Leagues of 32 Teams

Gold League
1 League of 32 teams - (MUST MAKE SURE NO CPU)
16 teams form Silver will get promoted to Gold League
Whoa!!! 16 teams, all NON playoff teams drop to the 4 Silver Leagues

Silver Leagues
4 Leagues of 32 teams
All Conference Championship teams and Championship participants advance to Gold League.
4 teams with the worst records in each of the 4 leagues DROP to Copper!
16 teams demote to Copper
16 teams from Copper promote here to Silver

Copper Leagues
16 leagues of 32 teams
16 teams with the best records get promoted to silver (human owned comes first)
16 Teams advance to Silver
16 teams from Silver demote to Copper

the one gold league and the four silver leagues are made to have as many human teams as there are available, and then if there is still human teams left then put them into copper league one so they are still playing other human owned teams aswell. Then come next season all the human owned teams in the copper leagues get replaced by any CPU's there are in the silver leagues and also the worst 4 records from each silver league.

But this is more leagues than we have now..

Even if they just cut 4 silver leagues. This will make it 1-4-8 is a good start.

Originally posted by Rizyx
i think we are getting caught up with to many ideas, make it simple

LE's original post with my addition i think is pretty much spot (biased i know )

The Set Up
Gold League - 32 Teams
Silver League - 4 Leagues of 32 teams
Copper Leagues - 16 Leagues of 32 Teams

Gold League
1 League of 32 teams - (MUST MAKE SURE NO CPU)
16 teams form Silver will get promoted to Gold League
Whoa!!! 16 teams, all NON playoff teams drop to the 4 Silver Leagues

Silver Leagues
4 Leagues of 32 teams
All Conference Championship teams and Championship participants advance to Gold League.
4 teams with the worst records in each of the 4 leagues DROP to Copper!
16 teams demote to Copper
16 teams from Copper promote here to Silver

Copper Leagues
16 leagues of 32 teams
16 teams with the best records get promoted to silver (human owned comes first)
16 Teams advance to Silver
16 teams from Silver demote to Copper

the one gold league and the four silver leagues are made to have as many human teams as there are available, and then if there is still human teams left then put them into copper league one so they are still playing other human owned teams aswell. Then come next season all the human owned teams in the copper leagues get replaced by any CPU's there are in the silver leagues and also the worst 4 records from each silver league.

Made it the original post. I think it's great for everyone. Also Gold needs a higher turn over rate to make things more onteresting and like Bevo said, get rid of lazy teams kicking back in Gold. Lets get fresh young hungry teams in there even if they get beat up they at least get to experience it. Win / Win for all IMO

Originally posted by keltco
But this is more leagues than we have now..

Even if they just cut 4 silver leagues. This will make it 1-4-8 is a good start.

thing is copper leagues dont really matter, its about getting the human teams in the gold and silver league, i agree though! 8 copper leagues would be better, hell 1 copper league would be good enough if we could do that!? just promote the human teams and knock down the CPU's until we fill the copper league and then introduce a new copper league and so on.