I think that is a fair compromise give 100% on CE before the announcement was made.
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The Hard Hitter Strong Saftey Build has Agility as a Major attribute, but then gets a penalty to the Change Direction SA. It's that a contradiction? Agility and Change Direction go hand in hand.
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Originally posted by Staz
This would be like an even more powerful version of the Combo back. It would be an overwhelming choice, which is something they want to avoid. They don't want one build to be the "must have" over another one. They built them all to be relatively balanced so that people would actually THINK about what they want instead of just saying "Whoa. Speed AND Strength, AND a boost to SAs? I'll take it."
Exactly and one of the benefits to Power is the bonuses to LTS and Power Thru. It's a choice people will have to make. Yes, people can make PB's using Combo but it's not an overwhelming easy decision to make.
This would be like an even more powerful version of the Combo back. It would be an overwhelming choice, which is something they want to avoid. They don't want one build to be the "must have" over another one. They built them all to be relatively balanced so that people would actually THINK about what they want instead of just saying "Whoa. Speed AND Strength, AND a boost to SAs? I'll take it."
Exactly and one of the benefits to Power is the bonuses to LTS and Power Thru. It's a choice people will have to make. Yes, people can make PB's using Combo but it's not an overwhelming easy decision to make.
Edited by Catch22 on Feb 9, 2010 14:09:17
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Originally posted by StinkCheese
catch am i ever going to get the OC'ing lesson you promised me
lol no
catch am i ever going to get the OC'ing lesson you promised me

lol no
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Has anyone explained why Special Team only players are limited to FB, TE, and defensive players?
I assume its because those players all cost 200 flex and OL guys only cost 100 and if given that choice everyone would just stack their ST with only OL guys. I'd prefer another explanation though rather than to assume its just about $$$$.
Getting the speed or tackling autolevel gains on a center thats already been created to play STO would be really nice. If all the other players can suddenly get the attribute gains of a center why can't a center also be entitled to some of the autolevel gains of defensive player?
I assume its because those players all cost 200 flex and OL guys only cost 100 and if given that choice everyone would just stack their ST with only OL guys. I'd prefer another explanation though rather than to assume its just about $$$$.
Getting the speed or tackling autolevel gains on a center thats already been created to play STO would be really nice. If all the other players can suddenly get the attribute gains of a center why can't a center also be entitled to some of the autolevel gains of defensive player?
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Originally posted by RMiller517
this is what power backs are though. call it whatever you want, i'd rather have 1 good archetype for a strength/speed back and use sliders for height and weight than have 2 shitty ones.
Then use Combo, and settle for the fact that you don't get a boost to Power Through.
this is what power backs are though. call it whatever you want, i'd rather have 1 good archetype for a strength/speed back and use sliders for height and weight than have 2 shitty ones.
Then use Combo, and settle for the fact that you don't get a boost to Power Through.
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Originally posted by vinman
I think that is a fair compromise give 100% on CE before the announcement was made.
I'm leaning that way too - like I said, have to talk to Bort. I don't have the authorization to just give flex back.
I think that is a fair compromise give 100% on CE before the announcement was made.
I'm leaning that way too - like I said, have to talk to Bort. I don't have the authorization to just give flex back.

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Originally posted by Titus Pullo
The Hard Hitter Strong Saftey Build has Agility as a Major attribute, but then gets a penalty to the Change Direction SA. It's that a contradiction? Agility and Change Direction go hand in hand.
What penalty SA would you choose?
The Hard Hitter Strong Saftey Build has Agility as a Major attribute, but then gets a penalty to the Change Direction SA. It's that a contradiction? Agility and Change Direction go hand in hand.
What penalty SA would you choose?
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Originally posted by Catch22
Originally posted by nixa37
Guess everyone with extra flex and guys 80 days or younger should go ahead and buy it then since its free.
That's precisely why it's the way it is now and why I doubt it changes. So people just don't go out and buy it since it'll be free. Might be able to do 100% for people that bought it before the change was announced last night though - that's what I need to talk to Bort about.
i dont have no issue waiting on a anser but mine was purchased just before season started not last night and i still dont feel i should be punished or maybe it should go back to anyone purchased at end of season on new created players?
Originally posted by nixa37
Guess everyone with extra flex and guys 80 days or younger should go ahead and buy it then since its free.
That's precisely why it's the way it is now and why I doubt it changes. So people just don't go out and buy it since it'll be free. Might be able to do 100% for people that bought it before the change was announced last night though - that's what I need to talk to Bort about.
i dont have no issue waiting on a anser but mine was purchased just before season started not last night and i still dont feel i should be punished or maybe it should go back to anyone purchased at end of season on new created players?
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Originally posted by Catch22
Exactly and one of the benefits to Power is the bonuses to LTS and Power Thru. It's a choice people will have to make. Yes, people can make PB's using Combo but it's not an overwhelming easy decision to make.
then rename the power back to "3rd down back" or "short yardage back." unless its got speed as a major, you can't design an offense around that back. its not explosive enough.
Exactly and one of the benefits to Power is the bonuses to LTS and Power Thru. It's a choice people will have to make. Yes, people can make PB's using Combo but it's not an overwhelming easy decision to make.
then rename the power back to "3rd down back" or "short yardage back." unless its got speed as a major, you can't design an offense around that back. its not explosive enough.
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Originally posted by reginator
Has anyone explained why Special Team only players are limited to FB, TE, and defensive players?
I assume its because those players all cost 200 flex and OL guys only cost 100 and if given that choice everyone would just stack their ST with only OL guys. I'd prefer another explanation though rather than to assume its just about $$$$.
Getting the speed or tackling autolevel gains on a center thats already been created to play STO would be really nice. If all the other players can suddenly get the attribute gains of a center why can't a center also be entitled to some of the autolevel gains of defensive player?
You might see OL on the return team, but I don't typically see OL on punts, punt returns, kick offs, etc. You generally see FBs, TEs, defensive players, etc. that are deeper on the depth chart coming out on STs.
Has anyone explained why Special Team only players are limited to FB, TE, and defensive players?
I assume its because those players all cost 200 flex and OL guys only cost 100 and if given that choice everyone would just stack their ST with only OL guys. I'd prefer another explanation though rather than to assume its just about $$$$.
Getting the speed or tackling autolevel gains on a center thats already been created to play STO would be really nice. If all the other players can suddenly get the attribute gains of a center why can't a center also be entitled to some of the autolevel gains of defensive player?
You might see OL on the return team, but I don't typically see OL on punts, punt returns, kick offs, etc. You generally see FBs, TEs, defensive players, etc. that are deeper on the depth chart coming out on STs.
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