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Originally posted by byrongame21
Originally posted by mischief83

well, hate to be a hater, but id like to see some proof i guess. the more i read the more i am swayed into believing that real life aside, this was just SHADY

chase, PLEASE do me a favor and shut this idiot up, for his sake. He's making himself look ignorant. If you don't know whats going on, don't comment on it. I'm tired of being nice, I have more then explained myself, and the fact that some of you are singling me out is utterly ridiculous. Go talk to Chase about this, then come back and talk to me.

Already did, since while he was suspicious, he was willing to consider it. Note he hasn't posted again since. Can't speak for anyone else here.

Originally posted by chasejyd
Originally posted by byrongame21

Originally posted by mischief83


well, hate to be a hater, but id like to see some proof i guess. the more i read the more i am swayed into believing that real life aside, this was just SHADY

chase, PLEASE do me a favor and shut this idiot up, for his sake. He's making himself look ignorant. If you don't know whats going on, don't comment on it. I'm tired of being nice, I have more then explained myself, and the fact that some of you are singling me out is utterly ridiculous. Go talk to Chase about this, then come back and talk to me.

Already did, since while he was suspicious, he was willing to consider it. Note he hasn't posted again since. Can't speak for anyone else here.

Thank you

Originally posted by cyates
The circumstances leading to the collusion is irrelevant to the problem it creates. The negative impact it will have on this league remains the same. So I see no point in discussing it, demanding proof, or providing it. That's just silly. The fact is that this is a serious flaw in the GLB system that the devils (appropriately named by the way) have taken advantage of.

Truth be told, as I'm a realist, I have a feeling most of the people here (especially the ones complaining the most) would have done the same thing if they were in the devil's position. I think we should be more upset at bort and dd that this situation is even possible. This is the third season and something should have been done about this by now, regardless of it's beta status. The fact that we are paying customers makes it all the more reprehensible.

If you want to blame Bort and DD then go ahead. I mean, they only have 35,000+ people to police. Just the two of them plus a handful of mods. Should be easy, right? Or do you really believe (since you are a realist) that the game can be designed in such a way that it prevents collusion? If people want to cheat badly enough they will find a way. You could work on game mechanics from now until we're all dead and you couldn't cover every possiblity for cheaters to exploit.
I have no problem with us policing our own. Cheaters should be shamed, bashed, crushed until they don't want to play this game any more. Hopefully other owners and players agree, and from the way this thread has gone I'd say they do.
And saying that the people who are complaining the loudest would have done the same ...well, that's not realism. That's sarcasm. And I applaud you for it! Please, police the complainers, myself included. I *LIKE* the idea of being held accountable for my actions. If I ever go so far overboard with this game that I would connive a way to cheat at it, then something has gone seriously wrong in my head and I should be forced to stop playing.

i dont know why every one is crying about this if you all had the chance to sign a bunch of high lvl players you would so stop crying. we never planned on stacking a team or anything like that. me and mono started together he bought a team and made some players and i made some players and put them on his team season 2 i decided i wanted my own team and made players for that team. me and mono are friends outside of this game. and it is hard to run a team let alone 2, and when u have a family it is evern harder, he was GM of my team and i was GM of his team, and when his son got put in the hospital (if u want to believe that or not ) he decide he was done with owning a team, so alot of the players on his team were close and wanted to stay together, we told them they could come here,and they did. plain and simple is we have made some good friends on here and if they want to stay together than that is great. sorry if we messed up your season. any one of u would have done the same thing.

I didn't say Bort should police the cheaters, I said he should have prevented it.

Originally posted by lmaca2z
Has anyone reported this incident to a Mod yet?


I should have rephrased my question.

Has EVERYONE reported this incident to a mod yet?

it is not cheating, so we have higher lvl players how is that cheating.

By the way, cheating by definition is the act of violating rules deliberately. My issue is that it's not currently a rule for them to break. Sure it's discouraged and looked down upon and rightly so. The problem is that it should be a RULE with enforced consequences or better yet, like I said, not even possible in the first place. Invoking a chemistry penalty which seems to affect the outcome of games very little is not enough.

And devils, please don't think I'm on your side. I despise you just as much as the rest of the guys here for unbalancing our league, especially as one in your conference. I'm just trying to make the point that the real crime is that it's possible.

Originally posted by byrongame21
oh and death knight, what kinds of proof are you looking for from, do you want ihm to scan in hospital bills onto the forum?!?

He seems to be resourceful enough to stack a team. I think he can figure something out...

Theres an easier way to let a team go on. Sell/give it to someone you trust, the end.

this indicates that Bort is ready and willing to hand down some serious justice in regards to this type of behavior.

some peeps here just may lose their team, players, and all playing rights.

tick-tock

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=175644&page=1

Originally posted by MIKECRAFT
i dont know why every one is crying about this if you all had the chance to sign a bunch of high lvl players you would so stop crying. we never planned on stacking a team or anything like that. me and mono started together he bought a team and made some players and i made some players and put them on his team season 2 i decided i wanted my own team and made players for that team. me and mono are friends outside of this game. and it is hard to run a team let alone 2, and when u have a family it is evern harder, he was GM of my team and i was GM of his team, and when his son got put in the hospital (if u want to believe that or not ) he decide he was done with owning a team, so alot of the players on his team were close and wanted to stay together, we told them they could come here,and they did. plain and simple is we have made some good friends on here and if they want to stay together than that is great. sorry if we messed up your season. any one of u would have done the same thing.

Gotta disagree. If it were me, I'd want to go to the team that already had stadium sections built and was going to earn 10 million plus this season (Mono's words, not mine). If you guys are such great buddies, why didn't you take over his team and sell yours? Move all your highest level guys to his team and make a run at the title in an established league? The story doesn't add up. And why did his sick, hospitalized child suddenly get released in the span of one day? And why is he having a cookout with a sick child at home, and have all this time that he didn't previously have to get online and check things out?

If anything that post sounds more along the lines of 'yeah, we did it ... so what?'

i have never heard this much crying from adults in my life. if i had went and signed any other group of high lvl players u would still be cryin. and if u want to tell a MOD about this go ahead we have done nothing wrong.... i got a tissue if u need one

Originally posted by cyates
By the way, cheating by definition is the act of violating rules deliberately. My issue is that it's not currently a rule for them to break. Sure it's discouraged and looked down upon and rightly so. The problem is that it should be a RULE with enforced consequences or better yet, like I said, not even possible in the first place. Invoking a chemistry penalty which seems to affect the outcome of games very little is not enough.

Cheating as defined by dictionary.com

"To act dishonestly;"

"violating accepted standards or rules; "a dirty fighter"; "used foul means to gain power"; "a nasty unsporting serve"; "fined for unsportsmanlike behavior" "