Warrior General Games

Originally posted by jrry32
Um no, you brought it up. Galkuris said you need both HBs for a championship and you then decided to talk about championships...do you have memory problems?

wow, this thread blew up since leaving that little bait for jrry

Since you brought it up, we have both backs. Scipio is more than capable of being an MVP candidate as an everydown back. We just didn't need him to do that last season. Maybe we will this season. Hell, Earl can be and has been an everydown back if we needed him to be again. Screen worked best last season. That's why we used it. If the pass aggressiveness slider nerfs the screen, I assure you Earl will find a different way to beat you.

Originally posted by Galkuris
Honestly this debate is stupid. Comparing the two doesn't work.

MJD = fewer big plays but also few "failed" plays.

Earl = big play threat that often gets stuffed for nothing.


Every offense needs the first, if you don't have it you will not win a championship. Vice versa most offenses need the second as well. The trick is balancing them.

First, Earl rarely gets stuffed for nothing. MJD is more Emmitt Smith type. Earl is more Westbrook/LDT type. And before you say none of those backs have won a championship, see Marshall Faulk. Earl <> Barry Sanders.

Originally posted by galkruris
Originally posted by ijg
wow, jrry talk about walking into one...you need to give your boss a heads up before laying a trap for him!

Hounds-MM playoff game: Earl 15.9 ypc running, 13.9 ypc receiving. Earl had more yards on 4 carries than MJD on 13. So much for showing up in the big game.

Score?

It takes a team to win a game, not one player. Don't disrespect the rest of your team like that. They bailed MJD out. Too bad they couldn't do the same with his 12 carries for 35 yds against MEM. But MJD is HUGE in the big games, right?

Originally posted by Sik Wit It
We lost cuz we didn't kick like a 35 yd FG at the end. To this day, it's Islander's greatest blunder .

And also this topic needs more Partlow imo.

It was a 50 yarder we didn't kick. Get it right. Still might've missed it.

but

it would have been Wolf Wallace's crowning achievement too. Poor guy

Nice to see everyone still getting along

Originally posted by ijg
Originally posted by jrry32

Um no, you brought it up. Galkuris said you need both HBs for a championship and you then decided to talk about championships...do you have memory problems?

wow, this thread blew up since leaving that little bait for jrry

Since you brought it up, we have both backs. Scipio is more than capable of being an MVP candidate as an everydown back. We just didn't need him to do that last season. Maybe we will this season. Hell, Earl can be and has been an everydown back if we needed him to be again. Screen worked best last season. That's why we used it. If the pass aggressiveness slider nerfs the screen, I assure you Earl will find a different way to beat you.

Originally posted by Galkuris

Honestly this debate is stupid. Comparing the two doesn't work.

MJD = fewer big plays but also few "failed" plays.

Earl = big play threat that often gets stuffed for nothing.


Every offense needs the first, if you don't have it you will not win a championship. Vice versa most offenses need the second as well. The trick is balancing them.

First, Earl rarely gets stuffed for nothing. MJD is more Emmitt Smith type. Earl is more Westbrook/LDT type. And before you say none of those backs have won a championship, see Marshall Faulk. Earl <> Barry Sanders.

Originally posted by galkruris

Originally posted by ijg

wow, jrry talk about walking into one...you need to give your boss a heads up before laying a trap for him!

Hounds-MM playoff game: Earl 15.9 ypc running, 13.9 ypc receiving. Earl had more yards on 4 carries than MJD on 13. So much for showing up in the big game.

Score?

It takes a team to win a game, not one player. Don't disrespect the rest of your team like that. They bailed MJD out. Too bad they couldn't do the same with his 12 carries for 35 yds against MEM. But MJD is HUGE in the big games, right?

Well, jdros setup a brilliant defense to stop him...not much I can do about that and not sure how the rest of the team "bailed" out MJD. It's not like he fumbled 4 times and ran for negative yardage.

EDIT: And MJD isn't Emmitt Smith, he's MJD! That's who I made his build after.

2nd EDIT: MJD had a better game vs. MEM than Earl Maddox.

Originally posted by islander1
Originally posted by Sik Wit It

We lost cuz we didn't kick like a 35 yd FG at the end. To this day, it's Islander's greatest blunder .

And also this topic needs more Partlow imo.

It was a 50 yarder we didn't kick. Get it right. Still might've missed it.

but

LOL like I was saying, you guys just seem to be unlucky in the playoffs.

Originally posted by jrry32

2nd EDIT: MJD had a better game vs. MEM than Earl Maddox.

Huh? Earl > 3ypc, MJD < 3ypc and a fumble. And we admittedly had a horrible game plan for MEM as we were still experimenting with the AI then so weren't running our best plays. You gave them your best shot and couldn't get 3 ypc. Looking back to prior season's, MJD consistently comes up smaller than Donovan McNabb in the playoffs. Maybe we now know why MM struggles so much in the playoffs season after season. After all, you need a big time back to win in the playoffs and MJD has consistently failed to provide that when it counts. X factor = choke factor???

Originally posted by ijg
Originally posted by jrry32


2nd EDIT: MJD had a better game vs. MEM than Earl Maddox.

Huh? Earl > 3ypc, MJD < 3ypc and a fumble. And we admittedly had a horrible game plan for MEM as we were still experimenting with the AI then so weren't running our best plays. You gave them your best shot and couldn't get 3 ypc. Looking back to prior season's, MJD consistently comes up smaller than Donovan McNabb in the playoffs. Maybe we now know why MM struggles so much in the playoffs season after season. After all, you need a big time back to win in the playoffs and MJD has consistently failed to provide that when it counts. X factor = choke factor???

1. I didn't give them anything
2. The MM GMs knew they were going to take away MJD which is why they threw to him so much instead of running him as much.
3. MM has a USA Pro Trophy...Hounds have 0...Hounds haven't even won a playoff game in USA Pro so it's laughable to me that you're talking smack to MM about them losing in the 2nd to 3rd rounds of the playoffs almost every year.

Oh and Maddox has only .2 more yards per carry in the playoffs and less yards per game in the playoffs as well as MJD spending every season but 3 in his career in a Pro League so...

Originally posted by Sik Wit It


We lost cuz we didn't kick like a 35 yd FG at the end. To this day, it's Islander's greatest blunder .

And also this topic needs more Partlow imo.


Whooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

Originally posted by coachviking
Nice to see everyone still getting along


Well, we got to do something while the new guys cheer about the lolscrimmages

Originally posted by jrry32

3. MM has a USA Pro Trophy...Hounds have 0...Hounds haven't even won a playoff game in USA Pro so it's laughable to me that you're talking smack to MM about them losing in the 2nd to 3rd rounds of the playoffs almost every year.

Huh? We've been in Pro one season. That's like saying Duke has won more ACC football titles than Miami. It's probably true (actually, may not be, but I'm guessing somewhere in ancient history Duke won) but that doesn't make Duke the better program.

2nd, I wasn't talking smack about MM in the playoffs, but about how MJD doesn't play well in the playoffs. I actually gave credit to the team, saying they would have gone further if their RB didn't play so small in big games.

Is it coincidence that they won the conference in season 7 without you and that since you joined they are 2-3 in the playoffs?

Finally, glad to have derailed this thread from you vs Street since he is the hands down winner and if you don't believe it, check his playoff stats. Now there is a dot who produces in big games. MJD is a lot closer to Earl than Street.

/thread

Originally posted by ijg
Huh? We've been in Pro one season. That's like saying Duke has won more ACC football titles than Miami. It's probably true (actually, may not be, but I'm guessing somewhere in ancient history Duke won) but that doesn't make Duke the better program.

2nd, I wasn't talking smack about MM in the playoffs, but about how MJD doesn't play well in the playoffs. I actually gave credit to the team, saying they would have gone further if their RB didn't play so small in big games.

Is it coincidence that they won the conference in season 7 without you and that since you joined they are 2-3 in the playoffs?

Finally, glad to have derailed this thread from you vs Street since he is the hands down winner and if you don't believe it, check his playoff stats. Now there is a dot who produces in big games. MJD is a lot closer to Earl than Street.

/thread

Enough already. MM is a higher caliber team than Nashville right now. They have a better history by being here in USA Pro and being so competitive year in and out. You've been here 1 season but in that 1 season who beat you in the playoffs? I vote MM. But overall I vote Lincoln!

And as far as the thread goes. The winner is definitely Street.

I don't think Minnesota is necessarily a higher caliber team than Nashville. Wouldn't be surpised if Nashville beat them again, nor would I be surprised if Minnesota beat the Hounds again. I do think Minnesota is more likely to finish second than Nashville, because like you've said, MM has been around Pro for a long time and is more used to the level of play and strategies used here, which does take a couple of seasons to get used to. That definitely counts for something. Consequently, Minnesota is a lot less likely to drop a game to one of the "lower" teams than Nashville, or say Ketchikan, is over the course of the season. But if you're just talking Nashville manning up with Minnesota, I think MM has a slight advantage, but it's not like MM is Tier 1 and the Hounds are Tier 2 or anything.