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Originally posted by StiffarmSteve
PP, you've been a class act since I met you a few seasons back... just wanted to thank you for out right quitting and donating half of your team to the Rhinos so they actually have a chance a winning a championship next season!

Your the best buddy, pal, chief!


He will undoubtedly get all of Tricon's and Sledge's Dots on his APL, soon to be WL team. He gave his team to tricon to do whatever he wants with it a few ssns back (who, from the GM titles, appears to have given it to Sledge for the Champ game and beyound), at least that is what I was told numerous times by Tricon. Funny, I send him the PM below and he replies by coming here and being a dickwad. I'm becoming more and more impressed with the cronies that Tricon sends after me every day...Well, and with Tricon, really. I'm putting my $ on SI being the next one he calls and tries to get all jacked up to come after me with these hideous and absolutely brutal, cutting to the bone attacks. I must go and cry now.


To:
StiffarmSteve
Date Sent:
Jun 3, 2009 09:16:24
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Hey Steve....I just wanted to say thanks. I don't think I ever did before and I should have. I know all the player stuff you did was for Long, but I still appreciated it. Also, as I told Ryiotgear, based on the arrangement that Long told me many times that he has with you, I'm sure you'll never have an issue with either of them.

GL today, and, thanks again for everything.

I was going to GTFO, but since I basically have an invite from PP personally, I'll make this quick...

I was staying out of all of this... PP doesn't like me... hasn't liked me... I'm totally OK with that. But to send that bogus email to me and then try to assassinate the character of Sledge and Tricon is just way too much... I've seen what he's posted in his team forum, I've seen what's going on here and its just crap man.

After ALL the things they have done for you, and you go out treating them like this is? Wow... it just amazes me.
I can understand personalities not getting along and leaving it at that... but the only person that was being babysitted was you and your team (not the player agents, don't twist this)...

The Rhinos are MY team... don't ever get that wrong or think other wise. I'm very grateful for Tricon and Slege's help... Along with a fantastic DC, OC and Scouts... Its all a team effort.

(I'm sorry USA Pro for my posts. Yes you are the greater league by far and I meant no disrespect to ANYONE out side of addressing PP)

I believed this game was dying...in fact - hated the direction it was going in at the end of S8! At the end of last season, I PM'd PP about players, etc (typical BS) and he gave some encouraging words for sure.

This game is about fun and dots...but there are those who transcend the game and instill in most of the user-base beasts in GLB a higher ethical road to be REAL AUTHENTIC regardless of who you be or where ya at! PP is one of those- transcending all the success and wins in the game. I don't give a shit how many gold trophies you got, I want someone REAL. They make great owners and great members in life.

Keep kickinazz PP in whatever you do!

Originally posted by StiffarmSteve
I was going to GTFO, but since I basically have an invite from PP personally, I'll make this quick...

I was staying out of all of this... PP doesn't like me... hasn't liked me... I'm totally OK with that. But to send that bogus email to me and then try to assassinate the character of Sledge and Tricon is just way too much... I've seen what he's posted in his team forum, I've seen what's going on here and its just crap man.

After ALL the things they have done for you, and you go out treating them like this is? Wow... it just amazes me.
I can understand personalities not getting along and leaving it at that... but the only person that was being babysitted was you and your team (not the player agents, don't twist this)...

The Rhinos are MY team... don't ever get that wrong or think other wise. I'm very grateful for Tricon and Slege's help... Along with a fantastic DC, OC and Scouts... Its all a team effort.

(I'm sorry USA Pro for my posts. Yes you are the greater league by far and I meant no disrespect to ANYONE out side of addressing PP)

I agree with Steve...

I know that Tricon wanted me to stay out of this as well but I think its time for the truth of the matter to be spoken.

Basically what we have here is a case of someone getting you to where you are(16-0) and then you taking the ball from them and putting it all into your own hands come playoff time. That is fucking ignorant. All you had to do was stick with what got you the 16-0 record and life would have been peachy...

Originally posted by xTrav
Originally posted by StiffarmSteve

I was going to GTFO, but since I basically have an invite from PP personally, I'll make this quick...

I was staying out of all of this... PP doesn't like me... hasn't liked me... I'm totally OK with that. But to send that bogus email to me and then try to assassinate the character of Sledge and Tricon is just way too much... I've seen what he's posted in his team forum, I've seen what's going on here and its just crap man.

After ALL the things they have done for you, and you go out treating them like this is? Wow... it just amazes me.
I can understand personalities not getting along and leaving it at that... but the only person that was being babysitted was you and your team (not the player agents, don't twist this)...

The Rhinos are MY team... don't ever get that wrong or think other wise. I'm very grateful for Tricon and Slege's help... Along with a fantastic DC, OC and Scouts... Its all a team effort.

(I'm sorry USA Pro for my posts. Yes you are the greater league by far and I meant no disrespect to ANYONE out side of addressing PP)

I agree with Steve...

I know that Tricon wanted me to stay out of this as well but I think its time for the truth of the matter to be spoken.

Basically what we have here is a case of someone getting you to where you are(16-0) and then you taking the ball from them and putting it all into your own hands come playoff time. That is fucking ignorant. All you had to do was stick with what got you the 16-0 record and life would have been peachy...

No, the fact of the matter is that the Maulers have been a very successful team in USA Pro long before this season and that whether or not Tricon and Sledge got them to 16-0 by themselves with PP having no hand in it(doubt it), PP was the owner of Green Bay and therefore had the right to change things up if he gameplanned and felt what he was doing is right. Tricon and Sledge owned a team, they sold it...this was PP's team regardless of what you say, he had the right to do whatever he thought was right.

Originally posted by jrry32
Originally posted by xTrav

Originally posted by StiffarmSteve


I was going to GTFO, but since I basically have an invite from PP personally, I'll make this quick...

I was staying out of all of this... PP doesn't like me... hasn't liked me... I'm totally OK with that. But to send that bogus email to me and then try to assassinate the character of Sledge and Tricon is just way too much... I've seen what he's posted in his team forum, I've seen what's going on here and its just crap man.

After ALL the things they have done for you, and you go out treating them like this is? Wow... it just amazes me.
I can understand personalities not getting along and leaving it at that... but the only person that was being babysitted was you and your team (not the player agents, don't twist this)...

The Rhinos are MY team... don't ever get that wrong or think other wise. I'm very grateful for Tricon and Slege's help... Along with a fantastic DC, OC and Scouts... Its all a team effort.

(I'm sorry USA Pro for my posts. Yes you are the greater league by far and I meant no disrespect to ANYONE out side of addressing PP)

I agree with Steve...

I know that Tricon wanted me to stay out of this as well but I think its time for the truth of the matter to be spoken.

Basically what we have here is a case of someone getting you to where you are(16-0) and then you taking the ball from them and putting it all into your own hands come playoff time. That is fucking ignorant. All you had to do was stick with what got you the 16-0 record and life would have been peachy...

No, the fact of the matter is that the Maulers have been a very successful team in USA Pro long before this season and that whether or not Tricon and Sledge got them to 16-0 by themselves with PP having no hand in it(doubt it), PP was the owner of Green Bay and therefore had the right to change things up if he gameplanned and felt what he was doing is right. Tricon and Sledge owned a team, they sold it...this was PP's team regardless of what you say, he had the right to do whatever he thought was right.

I have no problem with someone being the owner of a team and having the power to do whatever he wants with the gameplan in the playoffs BUT...there is no reason for that owner to cry wolf and start pointing fingers after a loss and then fold the team.

That is all.

Originally posted by StiffarmSteve
I was going to GTFO, but since I basically have an invite from PP personally, I'll make this quick...

I was staying out of all of this... PP doesn't like me... hasn't liked me... I'm totally OK with that. But to send that bogus email to me and then try to assassinate the character of Sledge and Tricon is just way too much... I've seen what he's posted in his team forum, I've seen what's going on here and its just crap man.

After ALL the things they have done for you, and you go out treating them like this is? Wow... it just amazes me.
I can understand personalities not getting along and leaving it at that... but the only person that was being babysitted was you and your team (not the player agents, don't twist this)...

The Rhinos are MY team... don't ever get that wrong or think other wise. I'm very grateful for Tricon and Slege's help... Along with a fantastic DC, OC and Scouts... Its all a team effort.

(I'm sorry USA Pro for my posts. Yes you are the greater league by far and I meant no disrespect to ANYONE out side of addressing PP)

Ummmmmm, Steve, I've never told anyone that I don't like you. Before now I didn't know you well enough to have any kind of an opinion on you in any way, shape or forum. I swear on my children's lives, and nothing is more sacred to me in this world than them. You are being played for a flat out sucker in all of this. The ONLY comment I EVER made to Tricon is that I had more than enough to keep up with in GB. So, I didn't want to have anything to do with the Rhinos.

Now, here's my question to you. How in the world do you (xTrav also) have any kind of a clue what went on between Tricon, Sledge and myself? You were never part of the team, certainly never has access to our PVT forum and, unless you have wire tapping equipment, were never part of the daily, hell, numerous calls each day, that Tricon made to me (I certainly made some too). So, because Tricon tells you this is how it went, it must be so. So be it, but the PM was sincere. I would have had no issue going into GREAT detail if I was trying to be a jackass. Hell, I could have forwarded you one of countless posts from our pvt forum. I could have given you ?s to ask Tricon (Sledge, as well, but I doubt he almost ever talks to you) that would have made him squirm like a worm. I didn't. You want to be played like a 10 cent hooker by them, feel free, but don't pretend you know anything more than what they tell you they did or didn't do, because you flat out don't.

Now, go enjoy your trophy.

Originally posted by xTrav
Originally posted by jrry32

Originally posted by xTrav


Originally posted by StiffarmSteve



I was going to GTFO, but since I basically have an invite from PP personally, I'll make this quick...

I was staying out of all of this... PP doesn't like me... hasn't liked me... I'm totally OK with that. But to send that bogus email to me and then try to assassinate the character of Sledge and Tricon is just way too much... I've seen what he's posted in his team forum, I've seen what's going on here and its just crap man.

After ALL the things they have done for you, and you go out treating them like this is? Wow... it just amazes me.
I can understand personalities not getting along and leaving it at that... but the only person that was being babysitted was you and your team (not the player agents, don't twist this)...

The Rhinos are MY team... don't ever get that wrong or think other wise. I'm very grateful for Tricon and Slege's help... Along with a fantastic DC, OC and Scouts... Its all a team effort.

(I'm sorry USA Pro for my posts. Yes you are the greater league by far and I meant no disrespect to ANYONE out side of addressing PP)

I agree with Steve...

I know that Tricon wanted me to stay out of this as well but I think its time for the truth of the matter to be spoken.

Basically what we have here is a case of someone getting you to where you are(16-0) and then you taking the ball from them and putting it all into your own hands come playoff time. That is fucking ignorant. All you had to do was stick with what got you the 16-0 record and life would have been peachy...

No, the fact of the matter is that the Maulers have been a very successful team in USA Pro long before this season and that whether or not Tricon and Sledge got them to 16-0 by themselves with PP having no hand in it(doubt it), PP was the owner of Green Bay and therefore had the right to change things up if he gameplanned and felt what he was doing is right. Tricon and Sledge owned a team, they sold it...this was PP's team regardless of what you say, he had the right to do whatever he thought was right.

I have no problem with someone being the owner of a team and having the power to do whatever he wants with the gameplan in the playoffs BUT...there is no reason for that owner to cry wolf and start pointing fingers after a loss and then fold the team.

That is all.

I'd have a problem if what PP is saying is true. And none of us know except PP, Sledge and Tricon what actually happened. But I've always known PP as an honest, stand up guy.


EDIT: Tricon seemed like a decent enough guy but I've only talked to him once while I've talked to PP quite a few times. Never talked to Sledge before.

Originally posted by xTrav

Basically what we have here is a case of someone getting you to where you are(16-0) and then you taking the ball from them and putting it all into your own hands come playoff time. That is fucking ignorant. All you had to do was stick with what got you the 16-0 record and life would have been peachy...

Egos like this are why the Maulers are gone.

Originally posted by UMBF
Originally posted by xTrav


Basically what we have here is a case of someone getting you to where you are(16-0) and then you taking the ball from them and putting it all into your own hands come playoff time. That is fucking ignorant. All you had to do was stick with what got you the 16-0 record and life would have been peachy...

Egos like this are why the Maulers are gone.

C'mon man...this is not between you and I.

LMAO....XTrav, being egotistical jackasses, I'm not the least bit surprised that Tricon believes I folded the team because of him. I did because I can't afford to spend 5-10 hours a day game planning. I had 3 of the very top minds in this game agree to help with the Maulers, BEFORE I removed Tricon and Sledge as GMs. That was all setup and ready to rock, and I'll always appreciate the hell out of all 3 of them for having my back. However, I didn't want to just own a team and not do the O and I knew I'd continue spending more time that I should on it. That's why I sold the team.

Tricon and Sledge did suck nearly every bit of joy from my season. Hell, Tricon popping a vein over a post I made after we locked up home field throughout the POs, stating that we had achomlished 2 of 4 goals (win the East & home field), and 1 is only a bonus (going 20-0), calling so irrate that his voice literally trembled and trying to lecture me on being negative (apparently saying that insinuated that I believed we were going to lose our last game of the ssn to ***O***, those were damn good times. The part that was soooooooooo fucking hilarious though was him telling me repeatedly during his break down that he and Sledge NEVER say anything negative in the team forums about the team or each other, EVER, only to have Sledge, you know, the D genius, post this in the forum after the game:

Originally posted by Sledge
Offense let us down big time...we were leading with 2:03 left and decide to pass and not burn out the clock. To much passing no ball control in the second half...Just freaken disgusted.

Yes, the same man that set the D that allowed ***O*** to drive 80 yards in 2 plays, down 6, no TOs, to score the game winner.

Here was my post in that same thread:
Originally posted by PP
That was a damn tough loss and I'll take 100% responsibility for it. I made some last minute changes that I shouldn't have and also had a couple errors in my O AI. Frankly, I thought I had it set to run after we burnt their last TO. If we had, we won the game. I also had it set to go for it, instead of punt, but that got messed up somehow. I'm not saying we would have made it on 4th, but that punt was inexcusable.

Sorry guys, I let you down and you deserved better.

Not Once did I mention it was Tricon's AI, the one he bugged me all off ssn to use until I finally caved...Not once did I mention the slimy pregame post Sledge made to stop me from running one of the plays I wanted to. Hell, I didn't even mention the nervous break down phone call Tricon made to me 3 hours before the game telling me all of the plays I had to change (each of which didn't work for shit, but, honestly, 100% my fault for listening, and I truly mean that). I fell on the sword for both of them.

I never posted a damn thing about any of that until AFTER an extremely enlightening, 2 day conversation with Tricon in out PVT forum (Sledge went and hid like a little bitch after making his post). Ask any former team mate if that was the sequence of posts is corret. Now, pls, lecture me some more on taking responsibility, pls.

BTW, ask anyone on the team how often I did the O in comparison to Tricon...Please, and then tell me again how they carried me. I changed almost nothing from my O GPs in any game in 2 ssns, excpet for the ***O*** game. I was undefeated in the regular ssn both times. Hell, I did 70%ish of the O GPs 2 ssns ago because Tricon ran away from home for 2 weeks (legitimately did, and he's 40 something). Including the scrims, I did 15 of the games this ssn and only lost to the ***O***. Ask the O guys who recruited them....Now shut the fuck up already until you have ANYTHING to base ANYTHING on besides what Tricon tells you.

Oh, and don't take any of this from me....Ask the players on the team.

Honest to God, guys, if you give 2 shits about either Tricon or Sledge, I'd shut the hell up already. I DON'T make shit up, EVER. This is a fucking game. Only a pathetic ass would lie about a stupid game. The more this goes on, the more I can dig up from the pvt forum and the worse both of them are going to look. I have no desire to do any of this, but I also have a VERY low tolerance for being called a liar. .

From what I read from both parties, Those two seem like two guys riding the high horse from what they did with a team they folded after having a perfect season and not taking a chance to repeat because of the repercussions of failing. Not that I blame them but I think PP orchestrated a fantastic season bringing everyone he could on board to win a championship.

As proof today, not everyone is perfect...Sometimes even the best lose. but if those two are really bitching after a loss in the playoffs to the CHAMPIONS then PP has all the right to do what he wants with the team and those two can piss off.

jeez... I log of GLB for a few hours and thigns go nuts