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since my 2 threads were locked about this topic in both the bugs & suggestions forums, i linked this thread to the suggestions forum. hopefully, it doesn't get locked.

eta: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2591080

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2223247 - Fix up the AI functionality.

Not on that list I'd like to see is the ability in the OAI to just select the damn play. It's unnecessary extra work to have us specify each option (target, long/medium/short, pass/run, outside handoff, etc.). The time commitment towards these AIs is murder, it really is (although so of the AI functionality things broaden it a bit). There's a reason so few people are willing to gameplan. Just give us a generic selection screen where I could at any point stop and select the option to be inserted into my output. No more of the pick the 3-4 corresponding options to get the play I want.

Kind of like folders within folders until I was left with what I wanted. And add in a "last used 5 plays" for further ease of use. I'm not sure this is easy to explain so I drew a pro picture to explain the play selection. It's a tree essentially, just defining the plays or series of plays you want.

http://i42.tinypic.com/vgpide.png

The idea is that it keeps defining until you have the play or set of plays you want selected. Something quick like going through folders on your hard drive. Anything faster and easier for the general population to get the play they want.

What I want first and foremost is the ability to get my scouting/gameplans done in the shortest time possible w/o shafting me on my options. I wouldn't mind if Bort eased the scouting, either. Just a simple output that shows the basic percentages of formations and pass/run across their games. Doesn't have to be a Filter of sorts or anything as complex as some of the scripts we've seen, just something that the average Joe could use and compete with. Just a page that outputted the amount of Strong I Inside runs a team ran in the game, how many of each they ran.

I know it's the nature of the game, but it as a game we shouldn't have to sit here spending 3+ hours on a playoff gameplan. It should take 15-30 minutes tops.

/endrant

Originally posted by da raiders
since my 2 threads were locked about this topic in both the bugs & suggestions forums, i linked this thread to the suggestions forum. hopefully, it doesn't get locked.

Why the hell would you do that? Get ready to be invaded...

Originally posted by tomcollins
hazy- I have a suggestion that might be helpful:

FIX THE DAMN DEPTH CHART RESETTING BUG I REPORTED 4 SEASONS AGO!!! Support has had their thumbs up their asses on this one, and I finally gave up after finding a workaround. I have another team that's having the same problem.

Issue is for some reason right before a game sims, the depth chart is getting reset (like someone is pressing reset depth chart). Only 2 people have access to this ability on the team, and I guarantee we aren't touching it. Thanks to this bug, my Level 1 Kicker has only gotten 100XP last few games, instead of 500 like his teammates since he gets moved down on the depth chart or removed. Other players on my team get their plays cut and are getting screwed.

I've given up on trying to get it fixed, support just blames me for the problem, or says "Bort will look at it", and then nothing is done as its dropped into a bottomless pit, like any other real issue that is something other than changing someones name.

That's what happens when you have less than 40 human players. The depth chart isn't yours to control in that situation.

Originally posted by Mat McBriar
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2223247 - Fix up the AI functionality.

Not on that list I'd like to see is the ability in the OAI to just select the damn play. It's unnecessary extra work to have us specify each option (target, long/medium/short, pass/run, outside handoff, etc.). The time commitment towards these AIs is murder, it really is (although so of the AI functionality things broaden it a bit). There's a reason so few people are willing to gameplan. Just give us a generic selection screen where I could at any point stop and select the option to be inserted into my output. No more of the pick the 3-4 corresponding options to get the play I want.

Kind of like folders within folders until I was left with what I wanted. And add in a "last used 5 plays" for further ease of use. I'm not sure this is easy to explain so I drew a pro picture to explain the play selection. It's a tree essentially, just defining the plays or series of plays you want.

http://i42.tinypic.com/vgpide.png

The idea is that it keeps defining until you have the play or set of plays you want selected. Something quick like going through folders on your hard drive. Anything faster and easier for the general population to get the play they want.

What I want first and foremost is the ability to get my scouting/gameplans done in the shortest time possible w/o shafting me on my options. I wouldn't mind if Bort eased the scouting, either. Just a simple output that shows the basic percentages of formations and pass/run across their games. Doesn't have to be a Filter of sorts or anything as complex as some of the scripts we've seen, just something that the average Joe could use and compete with. Just a page that outputted the amount of Strong I Inside runs a team ran in the game, how many of each they ran.

I know it's the nature of the game, but it as a game we shouldn't have to sit here spending 3+ hours on a playoff gameplan. It should take 15-30 minutes tops.

/endrant







I think the script GLB AI enhancer will allow you to select the play you want. It's not perfect but it works pretty good. I'm not sure if it actually saves time though.
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/38237

#1 Get rid of finances....or at least let owners buy team cash for FP's. The bottom half lose more ground every year as they bring in less cash, buy less equipment, win less games, REPEAT.

#2 Get rid of VA's

#3 Clean Wipe

#4 Branch out attributes to eliminate cookie cutter builds.

Instead of strength...Bench Press 225 reps score, Bench Press Max score, Squat Max score, Sit-ups 60 second max score, Leg Press Max score, etc... Linemen could have incredible upper body strength, but weak leg strength (thus at impact get an initial PUSH , but cannot move D - Lineman.)

Really don't have time to go into more examples since I doubt the decision makers agree.

Two things I am pretty sure of:

1) VA's aren't going away, no matter how much people dislike them

2) There will be no wipe

So with that in mind, try and make suggestions that will improve VA's and make them worthwhile.

nvm

Originally posted by thehazyone
Two things I am pretty sure of:

1) VA's aren't going away, no matter how much people dislike them

2) There will be no wipe

So with that in mind, try and make suggestions that will improve VA's and make them worthwhile.

good news. Didnt want VA's to go away anyway

Originally posted by thehazyone
Two things I am pretty sure of:

1) VA's aren't going away, no matter how much people dislike them

2) There will be no wipe

So with that in mind, try and make suggestions that will improve VA's and make them worthwhile.

This is most likely why people, such as myself, do not make suggestions.... You ask " What do you guys want?" and the over whelming response is to remove VA's. There isn't even a close second, yet there is no way Bort will change them.....

So why bother making suggestions? I love this game and will continue to play, but lets not pretend our suggestions are listened to. If Bort valued other individuals opinions he wouldn't be running a rapidly growing company by himself.....

1 - Fix /improve the current issues before adding more new stuff
The test server has done some great work improving things, keep this going until we're happy with what we've got then look at adding things.

2 - More valuable SAs/Vas to increase build/tactics diversity
Back in the day it was speed kills. While this still holds true, other builds can be productive but there's not enough options so we have 2 or 3 build types that pay dividends and the rest become bit-players.

3 - Cheaper custom eq for punters&kickers due to less SAs on tree
Fair's fair.

Originally posted by Critwit
Originally posted by thehazyone

Two things I am pretty sure of:

1) VA's aren't going away, no matter how much people dislike them

2) There will be no wipe

So with that in mind, try and make suggestions that will improve VA's and make them worthwhile.

This is most likely why people, such as myself, do not make suggestions.... You ask " What do you guys want?" and the over whelming response is to remove VA's. There isn't even a close second, yet there is no way Bort will change them.....

So why bother making suggestions? I love this game and will continue to play, but lets not pretend our suggestions are listened to. If Bort valued other individuals opinions he wouldn't be running a rapidly growing company by himself.....

That's a pretty ignorant post Critwit. I'm not going to get into a "fuck your face" argument, but the idea is for constructive suggestions. While removing the VAs seems like a viable idea atm, it's really a step backwards for the game. Certainly I'll agree that certain VAs go against why certain VAs were nerfed/changed but they are a LOT better than last season. And imo with the altering/removal of a couple could achieve some nice parity.

Hazy is here. Not in the Suggestions forum, not in CPL, he's here...in USA Pro. He's asking for constructive suggestions on the game and game mechanics to hand directly to Bort.

Honestly if you feel it's not worth making suggestions, than don't. Bort does read the suggestions forums so if you feel everything is ignored (hell VAs were user suggested), than don't post here.

Hazy's here giving USAPL direct opportunity over others. What more do you want?

Originally posted by Critwit
Originally posted by thehazyone

Two things I am pretty sure of:

1) VA's aren't going away, no matter how much people dislike them

2) There will be no wipe

So with that in mind, try and make suggestions that will improve VA's and make them worthwhile.

This is most likely why people, such as myself, do not make suggestions.... You ask " What do you guys want?" and the over whelming response is to remove VA's. There isn't even a close second, yet there is no way Bort will change them.....

So why bother making suggestions? I love this game and will continue to play, but lets not pretend our suggestions are listened to. If Bort valued other individuals opinions he wouldn't be running a rapidly growing company by himself.....

Exactly, if Bort and co can't see what the problem with this game, they will never be able to fix the game. And this is really a big problem throughout the history of GLB, every time there is a problem, Bort always side step it and window dress it without fixing the root of the problem. Most "fixes" created more problems than what they fixed.

Now that a majority of the people in USAPL voice the same suggestion, it will just be ignored. I mean come on, most people in this league have been with GLB for a long time and are knowledgeable about this game. We are not some newbies playing in the pee wee league, to completely ignore the most knowledgeable group of your user base is just bad business.

Originally posted by Mat McBriar
Originally posted by Critwit

Originally posted by thehazyone


Two things I am pretty sure of:

1) VA's aren't going away, no matter how much people dislike them

2) There will be no wipe

So with that in mind, try and make suggestions that will improve VA's and make them worthwhile.

This is most likely why people, such as myself, do not make suggestions.... You ask " What do you guys want?" and the over whelming response is to remove VA's. There isn't even a close second, yet there is no way Bort will change them.....

So why bother making suggestions? I love this game and will continue to play, but lets not pretend our suggestions are listened to. If Bort valued other individuals opinions he wouldn't be running a rapidly growing company by himself.....

That's a pretty ignorant post Critwit. I'm not going to get into a "fuck your face" argument, but the idea is for constructive suggestions. While removing the VAs seems like a viable idea atm, it's really a step backwards for the game. Certainly I'll agree that certain VAs go against why certain VAs were nerfed/changed but they are a LOT better than last season. And imo with the altering/removal of a couple could achieve some nice parity.

Hazy is here. Not in the Suggestions forum, not in CPL, he's here...in USA Pro. He's asking for constructive suggestions on the game and game mechanics to hand directly to Bort.

Honestly if you feel it's not worth making suggestions, than don't. Bort does read the suggestions forums so if you feel everything is ignored (hell VAs were user suggested), than don't post here.

Hazy's here giving USAPL direct opportunity over others. What more do you want?

I think removing the VAs is a constructive suggestion, as most believe that it will fix a lot of the problems with the sim right now and it will improve the game. And it's not just one or two agents that feel this way, majority of the people posted here have suggested the removal of VAs.

If essentially extra SPs are a significant problem with the sim right now, we're in for hell once most people have slow built players.